It is not a concern in terms of having a productive NHL career, but it is a limiting factor with respect to projecting him as a center at the NHL level.
C Marco Rossi - Ottawa 67’s, OHL (2020 Draft)
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It is not a concern in terms of having a productive NHL career, but it is a limiting factor with respect to projecting him as a center at the NHL level.
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Its a question of is he good enough to overcome his lack of height. Smartest player in the OHL 2 years in a row by opposing coaches .. gives him a chance. It will be a challenge, if he even gets that opportuniy. After Byfield and Stutzle if you want a C you could take Lundell or you could take Rossi and hope he doesn't need to be moved to the wing. Your still getting an excellent player. Rossi's 2 way game puts him ahead of Perfetti as a consideration at C.
So you play your tall player at C and have Rossi drive the line from the wing and take face offs because he's probably better at that as well.
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Rossi is more like Marchand/Point than any other player listed on here.
He’d seem to be a good candidate for NJ if he falls to 7. They have Hischier Hughes and Zacha down the middle and if Rossi can’t push anyone out of the middle he goes to someone’s wing and has a prime top six wing role.
Pavel Buchnevich
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All these centers fans always try to compare him to are taller than him. You can say that it doesn’t matter and he could end up as good as these comparables, but statistically it has mattered for centers at his height.
SteveCangialosi123
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How many of those players where size “mattered” had his level of production and received as much acclaim from coaches? You also don’t have any evidence that one or two inches is more important than the 15-20 pounds he has on other players his size. He’s literally already heavier than plenty of NHLers.
Pavel Buchnevich
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If you want to start a discussion on weight, go ahead and do so. This discussion is about height.
The point is that no one his height has had any recent success as a top 6 center below 5'10. Maybe Tyler Johnson, but he wasn't even playing the position this year.
If you are so sure his production means he'll be an elite NHL'er, go ahead and bet that he's the exception. I personally don't think he is. The production is deceiving because he's one of the oldest first year draft eligibles you'll ever seen, OHL scoring was way up this year to a historic degree, he played for a dominant team in an awful conference, and his type of profile is one with a disproportionate amount of busts (small forwards without great skating who are strong earlier than others).
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Are you aware that you actually don’t know his height? That’s what makes this extra funny. You don’t even know if he’s below your arbitrary 5-10 designation. 18 year olds grow, if you’re not aware. And the reliability of height measurements in sports is laughable.
So I reject that height matters significantly (when talking about a difference of an inch or 2) and I don’t think we even have accurate measurements of his height or other athletes. How tall is Brayden Point really? How tall is Jack Hughes?
Pavel Buchnevich
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I don't know why you are so insistent on fighting back on this. Do you have info to say he's a different height?
What if Zdeno Chara shrunk to 6'1? Would that change the calculus of his height? It would, but until we have reason to believe he has shrunk, why should we operate in hypotheticals? It's not as if there's much reason to believe Rossi's listed height isn't correct. And it's possible for 18 year olds to grow, but most people are done growing by 18. Rossi's nearly 19, as well. Some players in this draft haven't even turned 18.
And you've started moving the goalposts here about Rossi. There's no problem with being a fan of Rossi. You can say you think he'll be the exception at center with his height/skating, but this hypothetical game where you muddy the waters of his height doesn't accomplish much. Yes, anything is possible. It doesn't mean we need to speculate on anything. There's an agreed upon set of facts that you either seem to want to question or not accept. As far as the public knows, there is no recent top 6 center in the NHL shorter than 5'10 (unless you count Tyler Johnson). As far as the public knows, Rossi is 5'9. If you know otherwise to either of those two things that is pretty agreeable, you should alert everyone. Otherwise, this speculation game is worthless and doesn't add to the discussion.
SteveCangialosi123
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Even on weigh-in day, the numbers always lie
Oh look, an example of an inaccurate height measurement in hockey. So your entire pool of height data is poisoned by people straight lying about their height. And you’re talking about one inch. It’s just funny to me.
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Imagine caring so much about height and position.
Marco Rossi is BPA after Laf comes off the board.
Yea but if anything hes going to be shorter than the listed height not taller lol.
Even on weigh-in day, the numbers always lie
Oh look, an example of an inaccurate height measurement in hockey. So your entire pool of height data is poisoned by people straight lying about their height. And you’re talking about one inch. It’s just funny to me.
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You do realize that your point makes it much more likely to assume that Rossi isn't even 5'9"?
Even on weigh-in day, the numbers always lie
Oh look, an example of an inaccurate height measurement in hockey. So your entire pool of height data is poisoned by people straight lying about their height. And you’re talking about one inch. It’s just funny to me.
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So, we're right back where we started? Being listed at 5'9" isn't a death sentence in the NHL but is most certainly a concern.
BondraTime
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He was 5’9.75 at the NHL combine. They are very strictly measured (the reason the Hughes brothers never took part in them) and is the place where you see the discrepancies between actual heights and listed heights.
He’s either extremely close to 5’10, or he grew 0.25 inches since he was 17.
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I am a 67s fan and I’ve watched him play in person. He’s going to be special but I would still put Stutzle ahead of him
Aren’t the Ducks partial to bigger players at the top of the draft? Also do you see the Ducks passing on Sanderson or Drysdale if they are there to take Rossi? This year is an excellent draft and there are lots of great options in the top ten.
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I still cannot believe fans are still focusing on his goddamn height.....and supposed lack of it.
Also, weather does he play center or winger seems to be the second most popular topic...
He is an amazing center, will be that at NHL level. His ability to win face-offs for one, is something
i have never seen before from a player that young, his height isn't an issue and besides...again...
its less than 2 effing cm....from listed 5 foot 10, because he is almost 5 foot 10 anyways for crying out loud!
and about 4 cm from 5 foot 11....i gotta middle finger that's longer than that....
You know...if he was Canadian born we would not having this conversation at all, just saying.
Also, weather does he play center or winger seems to be the second most popular topic...
He is an amazing center, will be that at NHL level. His ability to win face-offs for one, is something
i have never seen before from a player that young, his height isn't an issue and besides...again...
its less than 2 effing cm....from listed 5 foot 10, because he is almost 5 foot 10 anyways for crying out loud!
and about 4 cm from 5 foot 11....i gotta middle finger that's longer than that....
You know...if he was Canadian born we would not having this conversation at all, just saying.
My favorite player in the draft.
