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Profoundly weak analysis: Buchnevich is marginal on the Blues so they'll trade him for whatever.
Dreger: Buchnevich is likely to be traded
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WingsToPick4th
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I think guentzel gets traded first and those who missed out will have to overpay for Buch but he is younger and has a year left too (will be expensive)
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For a PPG, strong two way, toolsy, all positions, all situations forward in his prime who is being added to your core roster, you need to cough up a similar potential talent on D. That's all. That's fair.
You could wait til free agency but then he might not pick you. Tomorrow though, you just added another PPG forward to your NHL roster. That costs.
You could wait til free agency but then he might not pick you. Tomorrow though, you just added another PPG forward to your NHL roster. That costs.
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Sounds like the price is too high for us and Vegas. Seems like we are changing course unless the price is going down.
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With Larkin out I wonder if the Wings might try to trade for Buchnevich and slot him at C for a few weeks. If they seriously intend to make the playoffs they need to address his loss at center. Buchnevich sucks at faceoffs but can apparently play C in a pinch. The only other real option as Adam Henrique, and I think I'd rather they miss the playoffs than spend assets on a 34 year old middle six UFA.
Wings have 7-10 games during the period Larkin might have out and those games might determine whether they make the playoffs or not.
Wings have 7-10 games during the period Larkin might have out and those games might determine whether they make the playoffs or not.
PocketNines
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I am ok with the Oilers and Vegas not being the final bidders, because I view Buchnevich as one of the last chances to get a legitimate D piece and those two orgs don't have what we want in that department.
The news here is LeBrun says Blues willing to retain on Buchnevich for the right return.
The news here is LeBrun says Blues willing to retain on Buchnevich for the right return.
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Yeah, I think it's a position where no team has stepped up for the price yet, so it might take Guentzel moving first, and that pushing another team to pay Army's price. Buch with retention for 2 playoffs is big time value.
I see it either being a single blue chip prospect if a team is willing to part with or a good but not great prospect and a 1st. I keep going back to it but I really like the idea of Morrow + 1st from Carolina (contingent on Morrow's willingness to sign)
That's far more level headed than one other Blues fan believes
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The issue with Edmonton, I just don't find their prospects appealing. I don't really care for any of their prospects that are already heading towards bust territory.
PocketNines
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Yuck. They can get a 1st + non blue chip next deadline.
So your theory is the Blues will have to settle 12 months early for Bourgault, a cap dump and a maybe 2d. Get real
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If that type of Edmonton offer is the best, then we are waiting till the draft and more teams will be in a buying mode.
So wait another year just for the same package? lol
Why wait a year to trade Buch when you can trade him now and out of good faith, allow him to go on a cup run?
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Because GMs are in the business of building the best possible roster, not doing players they are trading away favors.
That's far more level headed than one other Blues fan believes
Some people have very unrealistic expectations, they expect to get a player/prospect that is or is projected to be equal value but that's just not how it works. If your the seller your rarely getting a different quarter for your quarter, more often than not your getting two dimes and nickel back.
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Why would we accept a deal we wouldn't find acceptable now, when there would be more buyers at the draft? Your offer is basically what we'd expect at the deadline next year, so why should we accept that now?
If Edmonton had a prospect of real quality, then a deal could be done now. Too many questions around Broberg and Holloway. Bourgault doesn't even get the conversation going.
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Sure.. I don't even know why he is on the trade block this deadline.. that's some dumb management in STL land.
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Either he's indicated he wouldn't want to extend here or Army isn't interested in giving a long-term extension that someone that doesn't fit the age range of the next core. Making him available at a high price makes sense since teams can have him for 2 playoffs.
PocketNines
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You asserted the Blues would have to settle right now for some package that they could also get next year, and the pressure point on just giving up value is "good faith"
What even is this
He's ... not ... that is the point for his value being high.
He is a pricey item that will work as intended if a team buys it. But it's pricey. These people who are like "well they're gonna have to settle" are light skimmers and not understanders of anything
At I stated earlier. The asking price for Buch is 2x1sts. Teams usually meet in the middle. The package I stated is the middle price. 1st, Bourgault, conditional 2nd and Foegele(cap dump but he's worth a 3rd).
