Dreger: Buchnevich is likely to be traded

stl76

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Why the hell would the Oilers pay so much for yet another LW?
The Oilers need a right shot RW
Buchnevich can capably play all 3 forward positions. Not sure if he can shoot right handed, but it honesty wouldn’t shock me haha
 
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Buchnevich can capably play all 3 forward positions. Not sure if he can shoot right handed, but it honesty wouldn’t shock me haha
The Oilers just shouldn't be paying two 1sts and Broberg for a 2nd line player.
They need a D upgrade and a player like Tarasenko for half that price

He can play both sides and he's the best goalscoring winger available. He's also not easy to knock off pucks and is built pretty solid. Two-way game is good as well. Pretty much the perfect fit.
Not sure if the Oilers can afford him next season with 💩's 3.25m bonus hitting the cap
 

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The Oilers just shouldn't be paying two 1sts and Broberg for a 2nd line player.
They need a D upgrade and a player like Tarasenko for half that price


Not sure if the Oilers can afford him next season with 💩's 3.25m bonus hitting the cap
Lol @ calling Buchnevich a 2nd line player.

In before “well he would be on the oilerz!” :eyeroll:
 
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2 seasons rental pieces stopped being a thing due to flat cap. With cap set to rise he should be worth fair bit more this year. If nobody pays it we hold for another year we have cap space and plenty of roster spots). But I think equivalent of 2 1sts or so gets it done now.

There's correlation with rental prices increasing as well. 5 1sts moved last year for impending UFAs + 2 conditional (1 met). 2 have already moved this year; Guentzel and Hanifin will likely make the number 4. That's abnormal historically. Right now, it's not necessary to trade in advance to lock in that pick as it might have been in the past.

I was arguing that the Blues are not under pressure to act here, anyway.
 

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2 seasons rental pieces stopped being a thing due to flat cap. With cap set to rise he should be worth fair bit more this year. If nobody pays it we hold for another year we have cap space and plenty of roster spots). But I think equivalent of 2 1sts or so gets it done now.
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I think halloway broberg and first would be fair right

Why the hell would the Oilers pay so much for yet another LW?
The Oilers need a right shot RW
Um buchy plays all three positions.
 

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The Oilers just shouldn't be paying two 1sts and Broberg for a 2nd line player.
They need a D upgrade and a player like Tarasenko for half that price


Not sure if the Oilers can afford him next season with 💩's 3.25m bonus hitting the cap
Cap wouldn't be an issue because there would obviously need to be retention for the deal to work this season. At 50% retained he's a 2.9M cap it. Edmonton has multiple ways to open money next year between dumping guys like Foegele/Ceci/Kulak, a Campbell buyout, and a rising cap (expected to rise by 4.2M).
 

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Why comment if you already knew the answer?
What top team would he be a lock for the 1st line

I’m really hoping Buch is traded but also hoping it’s not to Edmonton.

Saying that, I really don’t understand your logic. Edmonton clearly has 2 of the best players in the world and so far haven’t even reached the finals. Teams that win the Cup have to have depth.

I have to think your opinion would be the minority of Edmonton fans but who knows? Maybe just keep doing the same thing every year and hoping for different results.
 

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Why comment if you already knew the answer?
What top team would he be a lock for the 1st line
Well there are 16 teams in the playoffs. I bet he would be on the first line on 80% of them. Feel free to take the time to prove. Me wrong..... you cant. Just because edm is stacked and you have two fiest lines doesnt mean he is a second line winger. Get that crap out your head right meow

I’m really hoping Buch is traded but also hoping it’s not to Edmonton.

Saying that, I really don’t understand your logic. Edmonton clearly has 2 of the best players in the world and so far haven’t even reached the finals. Teams that win the Cup have to have depth.

I have to think your opinion would be the minority of Edmonton fans but who knows? Maybe just keep doing the same thing every year and hoping for different results.
Insanity = edm
 

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I’m really hoping Buch is traded but also hoping it’s not to Edmonton.

Saying that, I really don’t understand your logic. Edmonton clearly has 2 of the best players in the world and so far haven’t even reached the finals. Teams that win the Cup have to have depth.

I have to think your opinion would be the minority of Edmonton fans but who knows? Maybe just keep doing the same thing every year and hoping for different results.
The Oilers just shouldn't be paying two 1sts and Broberg for a 2nd line player.
They need a D upgrade and a player like Tarasenko for half that price


Not sure if the Oilers can afford him next season with 💩's 3.25m bonus hitting the cap
Are the Oilers a deeper team with Buchnevich? (Who will never see the PP)
Or using the two 1sts, Holloway/Broberg for a D upgrade and one of Tarasenko/Eberle?

The discussed cost is way to high for the Oilers who need to plug multiple holes.
 

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If they had cap space, I'd say Vegas, Colorado, Vancouver, Boston, and Toronto.
It really is crazy how edm fans want a player from another team. Dont want to pay the going rate so they make really bad arguements to try and dimish said player to get a better fictional deal... its crazy.

Are the Oilers a deeper team with Buchnevich? (Who will never see the PP)
Or using the two 1sts, Holloway/Broberg for a D upgrade and one of Tarasenko/Eberle?

The discussed cost is way to high for the Oilers who need to plug multiple holes.
Why wouldnt buch see powerplay time. Pleaee explain that. Buch drives to the next and gets hard scored goals. Most of the edm players are perimeter players. Lol you just sound less and less compelling the more you speak.
 

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It really is crazy how edm fans want a player from another team. Dont want to pay the going rate so they make really bad arguements to try and dimish said player to get a better fictional deal... its crazy.


Why wouldnt buch see powerplay time. Pleaee explain that. Buch drives to the next and gets hard scored goals. Most of the edm players are perimeter players. Lol you just sound less and less compelling the more you speak.
You know who does that on the Oilers? Zach Hyman(2nd in NHL goals)
I never said Buchnevich is a bad player but on the Oilers he would be on the 2nd line and the 2PP unit(getting about 30s a game on average)
Not worth your idiotic asking price of Holloway, Broberg, and a 1st when the Oilers have multiple holes to fill
 

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You know who does that on the Oilers? Zach Hyman(2nd in NHL goals)
I never said Buchnevich is a bad player but on the Oilers he would be on the 2nd line and the 2PP unit(getting about 30s a game on average)
Not worth your idiotic asking price of Holloway, Broberg, and a 1st when the Oilers have multiple holes to fill
How is that idiotic. Nhl ready player top prospect and 1st thats the going rate for a top 3 nhl forward with anither year left after this. Idiotic is holland giving nurse 9+ million. Buch would be that 200 ft player. Ppg and big body for drais. You guys would get the cup. Look what 200ft player barabshev did for vegas. Look how well orielly 200ft game helped toronto. Even tarasenko helped nyr. The style the blues play is a very good addition to othwr teams. Defensive responsibility is a plus for playoffs
 

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Why comment if you already knew the answer?
What top team would he be a lock for the 1st line
You are basically saying “MaLkIn WaS a 2c”.

Buchnevich would be on the 1st line of plenty of top teams. Of the top 5 teams in the league, he’s better than a top line winger on 3 of them IMO: rags (Kakko), canucks (several haha), jets (Vilardi).

Is Matthew Tkachuk a 2nd line of player? This is dumb.
 

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Buchnevich can capably play all 3 forward positions. Not sure if he can shoot right handed, but it honesty wouldn’t shock me haha
Can he actually play center, or is it more like he can fill in if you need him to if you have like 3 guys injured?
 

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Can he actually play center, or is it more like he can fill in if you need him to if you have like 3 guys injured?
No he played center for a significant junk of the year last year. We got hayes to move schen up and move buch bacl to thomas wing.
 
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Just to add another dimension, in a world where Hanifin would extend in STL what about a three team trade where Buchnevich goes to a contender, Blues get Hanifin and Calgary gets the futures. Wonder what the balancing on that looks like
 

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Why comment if you already knew the answer?
What top team would he be a lock for the 1st line
Yeah what teams would want a two way, PPG, 1st liner with size and skill? It’s not like teams find any success with those player in the playoffs.
 

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Yeah a lot of his proposals are pretty egregious. Earlier in this thread I think a Canes fan said something around 1st + Morrow (condition on willingness to sign in St. Louis) which I think would be basis a pretty fair return.
is there perhaps a deal to be made around morrow and a 1st?
While it'd hurt a little bit to lose Morrow as a long term replacement for Burns as a RHD, I'd be okay with making a trade around Morrow and a 1st round pick for Buchnevich.

Also, to echo other comments, Nikishin is not available for trade. It'd take a legit young super star forward for the Canes to consider trading him. Our front office said Nikishin was off the table for Meier at last year's deadline, and since then, Nikishin keeps proving he's the real deal in the KHL. He should be a special player when he comes over to the NHL.
 

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Not commenting on the proposed deal, but holding Buchnevich until next deadline substantially tanks his value in a trade.

Very much understand that. But we also get to have Buchnevich for another season. I think it’s fairly reasonable to expect a 1st, prospect and a 3rd for Buchnevich at the next deadline.

I’m not sure how much more valuable what the other poster had suggested is than that.

EDIT: Let me rephrase that. By saying valuable to the Blues. I personally just don’t see much value to the Blues in Borgault.
 
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Can he actually play center, or is it more like he can fill in if you need him to if you have like 3 guys injured?
he played center about 20 games. analytics were good but he didn't look as good as at wing to me. and struggled big time on faceoffs. he has lots of center-like skills, but seems to be more comfortable on the wing.
 
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