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Dreger: Buchnevich is likely to be traded
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norrisnick
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Of what? A team that should be better than they are trading away one of their better players because they're giving up on the season? Been there, done that. Not envious.
So why do you care? You've stated you opinion and that's fine but it feels like your on some crusade to diminish Buchy's value. Also, how do you know the players being asked about aren't available? This is all speculation based on few facts.
- Buchnevich is possibly available
- Media believes that Army's price would be very high (2 1st rounders or equal prospects)
- Other teams do want Buchy (again reported interest from other teams and fan interest here in this thread)
If anything Buchy is at the same level as many of high end players available but has the added bonus of an additional year and very team friendly contract. I don't know if Army has decided to trade him or not because he keeps things very quiet in the media but if we do I would expect the return to be significant.
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Because the 19yo #8 overall center being asked for, is in my team's organization (he scored tonight btw).
Buchnevich's trade value in a vacuum is incidental here. 1. I don't think the Wings are interested in a 29yo winger. 2. They definitely wouldn't trade a 19yo center prospect for him.
23 points in 50 games. Mind blowing. Draft placement doesnt mean anything its how he is doing and so fsr he is under .5ppg in minors. Soooooooooo yeah kasper wallinder 1st
I would say stop while you’re ahead but you’re not
Pretty much all the media pundits had the Blues missing the playoffs before the season started. I’m really not sure where you’re coming up with the idea they are underachieving.
On February 5th, the Athletic gave the Blues a 12% chance to make the playoffs and they were in a playoff position
Ok, fine but you seem to be taking it personally that he is being asked for. Again, we don't know what is in our favorite teams GMs head. Honestly, I would much rather see the Blues look for a young high end defenseman prospect than a center. What I am saying is there is no reason to get upset, were all just spitballing here.
Don’t forget that Yzerman was quite passive in Tampa. He only made 2 major trades that saw the Lightning deal a 1st round pick/equivalent prospect for a roster player to win now: Coburn and McDonagh.
His early tenure in Detroit fits the pattern. He traded a good roster player (Hronek) for a draft pick just last year around this time. The Wings are still in the building process. Buchnevich makes little sense for them, no matter the extent to which some fans on here are hungry to try to win now.
His early tenure in Detroit fits the pattern. He traded a good roster player (Hronek) for a draft pick just last year around this time. The Wings are still in the building process. Buchnevich makes little sense for them, no matter the extent to which some fans on here are hungry to try to win now.
Yeah this thread is interesting. I feel like the two most common teams in this thread are Detroit and Vancouver, but in reality I don’t see either one actually being heavily involved in trade discussions for Buchnevich. It’s not in their best interests to give up their top futures for him right now.
I think the two suitors that make the most sense are Vegas and Carolina by a pretty wide margin.
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I'd rather go after a higher end defensive prospect than a forward prospect for a Buchnevich deal.
absolutely. challenge is canucks unlikely to deal willander, oil don't really have that unless you are higher on broberg than most are, vegas doesn't, among teams that have been speculated to be interested. you are left with wondering whether boston will deal us lohrei or carolina will deal us morrow (and will he sign) if we are to get that d. which is why we should be open to good c prospects too. i don't have much interest in winger prospects unless we think they are true 1st liners (perhaps lekkemaki).
i know wings fans keep saying this, but he isn't. he is good prospect, but they have at least 3 other d prospects i'd rather have (2 of which are i assume untouchable).
edstrom would be nice add...
I totally agree that Vegas makes these kind of moves (maybe 2 1sts) if you don't like the prospects. The Canes talk about making these kind of moves to push them over the top but rarely seem to make big moves. So then maybe just keep Buch to next years trade deadline.
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Yeah, Lohrei and Morrow would be on top of my list, Wallinder would definitely be of interest. Other players I would like aren't available because either their teams aren't in a spot to buy or the players aren't available (Carson Lambos or Willander for example). Then other teams around that might like Buch don't really have prospects that are very enticing for a Buch trade (VGK for example)
you gotta play the hand you are dealt. we don't need to acquire that d at the deadline. this trade isn't for next year. it's for 2-5 years out. and there will be those d that become available if we have the assets. which is why you target bpa.
Florida is another team. They're in win now mode. Bill Zito has shown to be aggressive. He fits nicely in their lineup now and serves as a hedge for Reinhart. Their asset pool is barren, though.
Colorado fans are hung up on centers. If not available, perhaps 2 strong wingers can overcome that weakness. I think there's some recency bias there; they win the cup with Kadri and then get upset in the 1st round after he leaves. The Hawks did win Stanley Cups with Sharp in the middle one year, Kane centered by Handzus the next time and then finally Richards. With Tampa, Stamkos was hurt in 2020; Gourde/Cirelli was behind Point that year. Even a name guy like Schenn had an underwhelming playoff statistically in 2019. So, there are counterexamples.
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Yep. Yzerman won't trade for a player who won't be a core piece, and right now the only pressing need is defense.
You have a strong draft for D with at least 15 rhd that are solid prospects. Take your best assets. He’s right.
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Yzerman could trade for Buchnevich, re-sign him at next season, and then trade him to another organization.
Nothing will prevent him doing that, he already did it with JT Miller.
Nothing will prevent him doing that, he already did it with JT Miller.
I love how you omit the 2024 1st, or lack of any top prospect, especially on the Hanifin deal which is already atrocious.
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can switch to the 2024 1st doesnt really matter that much. we arent going to give up a top 10 pick for either of these guys so if thats the only thing that gets it done then i understand but i suppose no deal to be made with detroit
