I mean they lost 3/4 of their starting centers from last year and of the new faces he's been the brightest light so far at C. Hasn't shown anything so far that would lead us to believe that he's not ready. Got to let it ride and see what comes.
How can you possibly know that he thinks it'll come magically to him? The answer is you can't possibly know what someone else thinks...
I'm viewing the "too much" thing a different way. I see him thinking he can dominate like he did in junior and he's not learning that he has to get down to basics and learn to play NHL hockey. I see it as arrogance and ego. I could be wrong, but either way he needs a LOT of development and I hope he has the willingness to accept the step down and put in the work it'll require.
I could be wrong but so could most everyone here. It's a feeling. It's a comparison to other players. It's based on what I see, what he says, every piece of limited information I get. I've watched hockey for a really long time and over that time you develop a sense of who has it and who doesn't. It becomes a gut thing. At this point I'm usually right BUT there are exceptions and some guys change and get it later on. Right now, Lysell has a long way to go.
This is great because the rest of us here on this HOCKEY FORUM don't watch much hockey at all. Teach us, oh guru!
I thought MM looked good the other day.
I feel like your ceiling is awfully high. Carlson put up 37 pts in the NHL in his 20/21 year old season. At the same age Lohrei was playing in the USHL. Carlson has 3 seasons of 70 pts. Lohrei doesn't have anywhere near that kind of offensive upside. I think maybe he can be a 40 pt NHL player.... which would be a great return on a late 2nd pick D. But he's not going to be a Norris contender and we shouldn't put those expectations on him.
I don't think it's arrogance. I think players get used to doing what has worked at other levels. And it worked for Lysell for a good portion of his 1st AHL season. Now, he will have to adjust his game as other teams adjust to him. He absolutely has to learn how to play with other players if he wants to make it. But most young skilled players have to learn that lesson.
Meaning................lots of young pups on here that have seen a decade of hockey at best. Us old folks have seen many a rookie come and go so yes, we know a thing or two. Deal with it.
No argument. I mean "arrogance" in the sense that he is sure he has the talent to make it work. He has to accept that it's just not going to come easy any more. Maybe he will get it eventually. Hope so. Right now though, just right now, he doesn't have what it takes.
It’s bizarre that you’re attaching these character flaws like arrogance and ego to a 20 year old kid with one professional season under his belt that has exhibited absolutely none of that.
Okay. We can disagree. I'm tired of talking about Lysell. At this point he's just not worth it.
Like not general ceiling....but high ceiling. For me.. its more of a stylistical comparison. Carlson is not the fastest or flashy. Or really physical. But fantastic offensive instincts and obviously execution (points scored etc.).
Anyone who says I'm usually right loses me instantly. Even people paid to do this shit aren't usually right.
The irony of saying that while calling a 20 year old kid arrogant…
He’s not Carlson but I think he’ll be more productive than 40 points. He’s got some swagger and pinache offensively. And he seems good at finding a way to get shots thru traffic. Those qualities are going to earn him earn top PP minutes one day, and 1st PP guys get 20+ points on the PP alone.
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agreed, if Lysell was arrogant or his attitude was crap, in this day and age of mass media, we`d know about it, haven`t heard that about him. The kid simply needs to elevate his play, don`t think it`s about his overall attitude
