Confirmed with Link: Bruins Acquire Dimitry Orlov and Garnet Hathaway from Washington

[BruinsFanSince94]

Looking forward to Jaffe and Razor breaking the deal down on Morning Bru. 98.5 FM is a joke this morning and crying about the picks so the podcast is the way to go

imagine crying about the picks in this deal. Just goes to show you how stupid 98.5 is.

 

[Blowfish]

I’ve been in Cuba the last 8 days. What did the leafs do

They continue failing their biggest need in D and in net...

 

[KnightofBoston]

I can not stress this enough

Charlie wants his parents to enjoy another Cup win.



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As he should, this team left major opportunities on the table in 2012, 13, 14, and 19. 20 I give them a pass because covid f***ed their season.

 

[Ladyfan]

Have to expect the votes of dislike and hate are fans of other teams.

I changed my vote to like but I do not like Hathaway. I hope he changes my mind, but I see him more as dirty than tough.

 

[JRull86]

I can not stress this enough

Charlie wants his parents to enjoy another Cup win.



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Wherever that is, take me there.

 

[Patdud]

Bruins now have 2 No.1 Dmen (one a top 3 in the league), a no.2, a no.3, a no.4 and. They could potentialy play a real no.3 dman on almost any other team in the league on the third pair because of matchups. Im stunned.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Wherever that is, take me there.

There’s a really juicy but probably pretty offensive joke sitting on the table for an “answer” to your question

 

[Ladyfan]

While I hate Hathaway, it is mainly because I worried about him injuring our guys. If he makes clean, hard hits and puts fear into the opponent, it is perfect. Hopefully it stops some of the dirty crap other teams do to our players. I trust in our leadership group to get the best out of him.

This is how I feel.

 

[08SeaBass08]

I voted "like," but only because Hathaway makes me feel kind of icky. Not Nilan-esque icky, but maybe McSorley level. Folks say his a lovely guy off-ice, so maybe he's a dirtier version of PK Subban, which would lessen my dislike enormously. Gotta be open-minded and give the guy a chance, but his ledger is pretty extensive when it comes to cheap shots and dirty play.

But if you're going to win a Stanley Cup, you've got to have guys like him (albeit, I prefer a cleaner version of the role). And while Greer provides that cleaner version, there's no denying Hathaway's a massive upgrade in talent over Greer.

Otherwise, this trade's a master stroke.

 

[Gee Wally]

I think most here agreed that we required an injection of grit and truculence for the playoffs.
This deal provides it as well as talent. Not warm bodies but guys that can actually play.
Orlov on any other team is a top pairing D. A number 1 on others. He solidified our top 4. Key word ’solid’.
Hathaway is the guy you hate playing against. He’s the consummate distraction on skates. He takes the other team off their game in many ways. Yet he’s no goon. He can play. He can create space.
The cost of attainment was as good as you can get. A part time player that no longer has a place. Draft picks that may never pan out and can be replaced at a later date.
Most importantly sends a message to the room, a strong message, that we are all in . Bergy himself commented on that last night.
We are a better team today then we were yesterday.

 

[Greek_physique]

I voted "like," but only because Hathaway makes me feel kind of icky. Not Nilan-esque icky, but maybe McSorley level. Folks say his a lovely guy off-ice, so maybe he's a dirtier version of PK Subban, which would lessen my dislike enormously. Gotta be open-minded and give the guy a chance, but his ledger is pretty extensive when it comes to cheap shots and dirty play.

But if you're going to win a Stanley Cup, you've got to have guys like him (albeit, I prefer a cleaner version of the role). And while Greer provides that cleaner version, there's no denying Hathaway's a massive upgrade in talent over Greer.

Otherwise, this trade's a master stroke.

Look at it this way.

If Tampa or Toronto got Hathaway and we ended up playing them in the 2nd round, he would've been a pain in the arse to play against. Does he take dumb penalties? Yes, but IMO, that entire Caps team had no structure, even when Chara was there....he won't be required to do a lot of stupid things here, and when you look at his skill, he's got pretty decent hands for a bottom 6 player.

If he does end up playing Coyle and company, he could do well...if not, he could provide a similar role to S.Thornton on that 4th line and fit in well with Nosek and Figgy.

For a team that had pretty great depth, we just added to that.

Last year we had no McAvoy and Lindholm.....this year you take those guys out and you still ice a pretty decent top 6. Not sure HOW you can't like the depth.

 

[ShiftyNifty16]

I think most here agreed that we required an injection of grit and truculence for the playoffs.
This deal provides it as well as talent. Not warm bodies but guys that can actually play.
Orlov on any other team is a top pairing D. A number 1 on others. He solidified our top 4. Key word ’solid’.
Hathaway is the guy you hate playing against. He’s the consummate distraction on skates. He takes the other team off their game in many ways. Yet he’s no goon. He can play. He can create space.
The cost of attainment was as good as you can get. A part time player that no longer has a place. Draft picks that may never pan out and can be replaced at a later date.
Most importantly sends a message to the room, a strong message, that we are all in . Bergy himself commented on that last night.
We are a better team today then we were yesterday.

You had me at truculence. This move confirms for me that DS gets it, these guys in 2019 would have sent the Blues home with ice packs.

 

[Ladyfan]

I think most here agreed that we required an injection of grit and truculence for the playoffs.
This deal provides it as well as talent. Not warm bodies but guys that can actually play.
Orlov on any other team is a top pairing D. A number 1 on others. He solidified our top 4. Key word ’solid’.
Hathaway is the guy you hate playing against. He’s the consummate distraction on skates. He takes the other team off their game in many ways. Yet he’s no goon. He can play. He can create space.
The cost of attainment was as good as you can get. A part time player that no longer has a place. Draft picks that may never pan out and can be replaced at a later date.
Most importantly sends a message to the room, a strong message, that we are all in . Bergy himself commented on that last night.
We are a better team today then we were yesterday.

I wanted an enforcer, but I am not sure Hathaway is that. I think he comes off like a goon at times. I REALLY want him to prove me wrong.

This trade looks good.

I want to like Hathaway....It is up to him

 

[08SeaBass08]

Look at it this way.

If Tampa or Toronto got Hathaway and we ended up playing them in the 2nd round, he would've been a pain in the arse to play against. Does he take dumb penalties? Yes, but IMO, that entire Caps team had no structure, even when Chara was there....he won't be required to do a lot of stupid things here, and when you look at his skill, he's got pretty decent hands for a bottom 6 player.

If he does end up playing Coyle and company, he could do well...if not, he could provide a similar role to S.Thornton on that 4th line and fit in well with Nosek and Figgy.

For a team that had pretty great depth, we just added to that.

Last year we had no McAvoy and Lindholm.....this year you take those guys out and you still ice a pretty decent top 6. Not sure HOW you can't like the depth.

Again, it's just my personal disdain for his on-ice unnecessarily dirty, cheap stuff. He's absolutely perfect otherwise, and maybe he'll stop doing all that crap here - certainly hadn't thought of in the context of Washington's larger structural issues. From what I'm reading in the Hathaway thread, I don't think I'm going to have my doubts very long.

But I agree on all points and think we got a whole lot better for a whole lot less than Gavrikov alone would have cost.

Thank God it wasn't Wilson.

 

[Bs1011]

imagine crying about the picks in this deal. Just goes to show you how stupid 98.5 is.

They didn’t know who Orlov was until yesterday. You listen to that crap to get a laugh at how dumb they actually are

 

[Oates2Neely]

Still see a need at 3rd line RW. A skill guy who can shoot the puck.

Solid move by Sweeney. Columbus asking for the moon for Gavrikov might’ve really screwed themselves.

Still think we see a Bonino type add at the last minute. If a center goes down, Fredric slots in, and his struggles at the face off dot are well known.

 

[Bs1011]

Again, it's just my personal disdain for his on-ice unnecessarily dirty, cheap stuff. He's absolutely perfect otherwise, and maybe he'll stop doing all that crap here - certainly hadn't thought of in the context of Washington's larger structural issues. From what I'm reading in the Hathaway thread, I don't think I'm going to have my doubts very long.

But I agree on all points and think we got a whole lot better for a whole lot less than Gavrikov alone would have cost.

Thank God it wasn't Wilson.

Imagine if we got Wilson it would have been unbelievable. He’s Hathaway but you can play him on the first or second line like we did Lucic when we won the cup. You have to think like players do they want to win they don’t worry about personal feelings. It’s pro sports if the teams were run by the main board and you know we have the most hated player in the league we wouldn’t have made any trades and not one player would have signed a team friendly extension.

 

[goldnblack]

the 14 people who hate/dislike it are all Leaf fans who came here, right?

Still see a need at 3rd line RW. A skill guy who can shoot the puck.

Solid move by Sweeney. Columbus asking for the moon for Gavrikov might’ve really screwed themselves.

Still think we see a Bonino type add at the last minute. If a center goes down, Fredric slots in, and his struggles at the face off dot are well known.

I think they like Freddy there...

 

[Oates2Neely]

the 14 people who hate/dislike it are all Leaf fans who came here, right?



I think they like Freddy there...

I don’t. That line not a scoring line, not really a shutdown line either. The only Bruins line with no real identity.

 

[Greek_physique]

Still see a need at 3rd line RW. A skill guy who can shoot the puck.

Solid move by Sweeney. Columbus asking for the moon for Gavrikov might’ve really screwed themselves.

Still think we see a Bonino type add at the last minute. If a center goes down, Fredric slots in, and his struggles at the face off dot are well known.

I'm not too worried if a center goes down, even if Trent struggles at the dot. He's very responsible in the defensive zone and unless we ice the puck and he HAS to take the faceoff, someone else will take those key draws.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

imagine crying about the picks in this deal. Just goes to show you how stupid 98.5 is.

Seems like a lot of picks for a double rental.

If the B's don't win the Cup, it will seem like even more.

See Gonchar, 2003-04.

 

[goldnblack]

I don’t. That line not a scoring line, not really a shutdown line either. The only Bruins line with no real identity.

That line has guys capable of scoring 20goals each (with very minimal pp time), but it's not a scoring line? Go on....?

 

[Mad-Marcus]

imagine crying about the picks in this deal. Just goes to show you how stupid 98.5 is.

They're just mad, because now they can't bitch about poor drafting. For a station that is the radio home to the B's, they know nothing about the sport or what it takes to win. Felgers' the worst.

 

[YNWABoston]

Elliot Friedman on today's 32 Thoughts Podcast, explaining the Gavrikov situation:
"I have absolutely no doubts the reason why Columbus scratched Gavrikov is because they had a deal in place with the Boston Bruins. In their eyes it was more than just we will do something, there was some sort of verbal commitment there."

-Gavrikov getting impatient, wanted a deal to happen soon
- Boston views it as they never had a verbal commitment
- Had conceptual talks with Columbus
- Boston had legitimate talks with Arizona on Chychrun
- Had talks with Chicago on a McCabe/Lafferty deal
- Earlier Thursday, Columbus heard a deal wasn't going to happen
- Columbus and Boston had very different opinions on where they thought the deal was
- GMs around the league thought Gavrikov to Boston was done

 

[NeelyDan]

I wanted an enforcer, but I am not sure Hathaway is that. I think he comes off like a goon at times. I REALLY want him to prove me wrong.

This trade looks good.

I want to like Hathaway....It is up to him

You're right, he's not an enforcer. He *will* drop the gloves - he's fought our own Quaider, Pat Maroon - but he's not terribly good at it. You're not getting that kind of deterrent with him - you're getting agitation, distraction and a different form of deterrent, arguably, in the other team knowing if they pull shit with our guys, they can expect it in return (or even him being the one to take it to them first).