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This trade feels too good to be true and it's worrying me.
Where is the I'm scared dude?
Where is the I'm scared dude?
Confirmed with Link: Bruins Acquire Dimitry Orlov and Garnet Hathaway from Washington
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YNWABoston
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More from Elliot Friedman on the 32 Thoughts Podcast,
- After Hathaway scored the GWG in Boston last week, the Bruins made a concerted effort to get him. Washington didn't really make him available until early this week.
- The price for Orlov and Hathaway was similar to the price they would have paid for Gavrikov
- After Hathaway scored the GWG in Boston last week, the Bruins made a concerted effort to get him. Washington didn't really make him available until early this week.
- The price for Orlov and Hathaway was similar to the price they would have paid for Gavrikov
Zacha would slot in at center before Freddy would
Bs1011
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And Gavrikov was more of the same not very physical
Over the volcano
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I'm all for identifying the players you want and then paying for them, but it sure feels like a last shot type move.
It's a lot to give up (basically a whole draft - 1st/2nd/3rd) for rentals.
If anything he'll add to the need for an enforcer - stirring the pot more than he sips from it.
Blowfish
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Win now for obvious reasons...could care less about rental cost. Bruins may resign those rentals but with Sweens at the helm are you all that worried?
KrejciMVP
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Im worried they'll massively overpay orlov but won't spend an extra 1 million to sign Pastrnak.
Blowfish
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IMO the Pastrnak deal was completed months ago...Marketing 101. Know when to feed the sharks.
ODAAT
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team got deeper, got heavier, got more experienced and I`m not sold on Donny boy being done yet
Jarmo trying to save face
Jarmo trying to save face
Dennis Bonvie
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IF they win the Cup, what does it matter? Is there ANY guarantee those draft picks would pan out? Are you going to tell me that we could be sacrificing future Stanley Cup championships by trading these pics?
A refresher on Bruins history - there are NEVER ‘future Stanley Cup championships’ with this franchise. One Cup in the last 50 years (2011), and three since BEFORE Pearl Harbor (1970; 1972; 2011).
Remember all those Cups we thought the 2011 Bruins were going to win? Neither do I.
WIN NOW AT ANY COST. Because we have no idea when the next one is coming!
Over the volcano
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Nope, just saying if you think it's too good to be true just remember what it cost. Could also remember the last time Boston loaded up for the playoffs by dealing a similar package to Washington for an D/F combination in Gonchar and Nylander.
That IF is doing a whole lot of work here.
I'm not connected inside and maybe @DominicT or @Gee Wally would know better but that is some piss poor sour grapes from Columbus right now. He found a better deal and now you are crying about it when you reportedly did not want to take on any salary or retain? Just a bad look if you ask me but what do I know.
Oates2Neely
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The only guy on that line projected to score 20+ is Hall. But yes as Leaf fans say… “capable”
KrejciMVP
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don't think Sweeney would give up this much and not give orlov a deal which will have to be a huge overpayment
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So he got his ass kicked in negotiations and is now whining about it. Sounds like Harbaugh and the "not knowing" the rule book situation.
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Jarno/CLB can be salty all they want...
Were they taking Smith?
Were they offering a guy like Hatheway as a throw in?
Orlov is better than Gavrikov.
The Bruins OPENED UP cap room in this deal.
Go pound sand Jarno.
Were they taking Smith?
Were they offering a guy like Hatheway as a throw in?
Orlov is better than Gavrikov.
The Bruins OPENED UP cap room in this deal.
Go pound sand Jarno.
Yeah, I don’t understand the whining either. The jackets surely were aware of the bruins cap situation. The bruins needed to make another deal before they could do the one with Columbus. Columbus refused to take smith (or any money) back in the deal. Don’t understand how they can feel “duped” at all. Jarmo played hardball and Sweeney just went in another direction.
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Would be interesting to know if CBJ refused to take on Craig Smith's contract or not. I know it's been speculated that trying to find a taker for Smith's contract was the hold up on closing the CBJ Gavrikov deal.
Because if they refused to take it on, then you can't blame Sweeney for moving on the Washington deal that clearly included dumping Smith's contract.
Then factor in the Bruins got the superior player in Orlov AND filled a need with Hathaway.
CBJ will find a taker for Gavrikov no doubt. They may even get a 1st rounder out of the acquiring team.
But he (Kekalainen) wouldn't be the first GM to overvalue his deadline UFAs and find themselves taking a lesser deal last minute just to get something back.
Because if they refused to take it on, then you can't blame Sweeney for moving on the Washington deal that clearly included dumping Smith's contract.
Then factor in the Bruins got the superior player in Orlov AND filled a need with Hathaway.
CBJ will find a taker for Gavrikov no doubt. They may even get a 1st rounder out of the acquiring team.
But he (Kekalainen) wouldn't be the first GM to overvalue his deadline UFAs and find themselves taking a lesser deal last minute just to get something back.
Oates2Neely
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Tough to assess without knowing all the details. If Jarmo wasn’t willing to take on a dump (Smith) then this alleged failed deal is on him. Sweeney found a taker for Smith while still getting his top 4 dman for the Cup run.
Too bad, so sad. Columbus shouldn't have dragged their feet, they should have
helped the Bruins make the $$$ work. They probably figured that Gavrikov would've played the rest of the year here and bolted, maybe back to them. Sweeney burst their bubble. When you get the deal that you essentially want, and it comes down to giving just a little bit to finish it off, you've got to shit or get of the pot! Columbus didn't.
Jarmo may have some right to be upset, but guess what. it is basic ABCs here. Always be closing.
Jarmo had a deal that would have been highway robbery for his player, and he was unwilling to take Smith back to make the deal happen. So he lost it. No excuses. He failed to close. That's on him
I'm sorry, but Kekalainen is one of the most overrated GMs in the NHL. I've felt that way for a long time.
I work in commercial real estate, and we have a saying....."time kills deals". Perfect example, right here.....Jarmo overplayed his hand, got called, and now is whining about it. Simple as that.
