Confirmed with Link: Brind'Amour named head coach

[GoldiFox]

I can accept the personnel issue on the PP. I’d like to hear directly that Peters mandated the 50/50 split. That Ryan/Skinner/Hanifin 2nd unit had no business being on the ice as much as it was.

Nobody can know if Rod will succeed or fail as a Head Coach. For sure we will find out. Like he said himself, boom or bust.

 

[Chrispy]

Lol

So who did you want? Mike Babcock? Paul Maurice is pretty good, right? Even though he was ****ty here for years and everything was his fault. Or maybe Mike Keenan?

Good players have a way of making good coaches. Good thing we've got some better players coming.

We need better goaltending. Period. The rest of this is noise because everyone's mad.

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[sheriff bart]

Why would any NHL head coach with a reputation to uphold want to come here and coach this roster in the Metro? We're not exactly a hot coaching market right now.

That #2 pick in the draft doesn't hurt that. There are only 31 of these jobs in the world. Don't underestimate that fact.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Basically fluff and stuff that has been stated already.

As for the last sentence, I don't see how anyone can say it's true.

No one knows how much autonomy he's had, and if he's had any at all as an assistant coach then this looks even worse.

I wouldn’t call it a fluff article. He names some pretty specific situations where Brind’Amour took a necessary back seat to other leaders in the organization, then stepped forward and thrived when given the opportunity.

 

[Identity404]

TBF, Waddell was on the business side of things pre-TD.

True, and he has done well in that role IMO, but managing hockey operations is definitely not the same.

I'm willing to wait and see how this all turns out, I don't think it's a death note, but i'm not pumped.

 

[GoldiFox]

I wouldn’t call it a fluff article. He names some pretty specific situations where Brind’Amour took a necessary back seat to other leaders in the organization, then stepped forward and thrived when given the opportunity.

Peter principle - Wikipedia

Brind’Amour is the poster child for a hard worker who those around him say should be promoted. He’s earned that in every stage of his career, at least from an internal perception standpoint.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

Aren't his kids all in college now? I mean that would actually make sense.

Yeah I believe so. I was just lol'ing at her comment of "Best news in a while for CAR".

I looked at this last year when his house hit the market so here's the update:

Briley (20), his daughter, is finishing up her sophomore year at James Madison, where she plays on their volleyball team.

Skyler (18), his oldest son, is getting ready to enroll at Michigan State in the fall, where he'll play hockey. He was drafted by the Oilers in the 6th round of last year's draft

Reece (17 or 18), his middle son, is finishing up his senior year in high school, so he'll be getting ready to move on to college in the fall

That leaves his youngest soon, Brooks, who's 6.

 

[Wolfpuck]

I looked at this last year when his house hit the market so here's the update:

Briley (20), his daughter, is finishing up her sophomore year at James Madison, where she plays on their volleyball team.

Skyler (18), his oldest son, is getting ready to enroll at Michigan State in the fall, where he'll play hockey. He was drafted by the Oilers in the 6th round of last year's draft

Reece (17 or 18), his middle son, is finishing up his senior year in high school, so he'll be getting ready to move on to college in the fall

That leaves his youngest soon, Brooks, who's 6.

Brooks for PP coach?

 

[bleedgreen]

Hurricanes Name Rod Brind'Amour as Head Coach

Official. And Waddell new President and GM.

I love how it’s completely snuck in that Waddell is the new gm. It’s not even a headline, Brind’Amour is.

This is some bull shit right here. Can we find some quotes from Don saying he wasn’t going to be GM?

TD found his yes man from the get go. The whole bit about interviewing the top candidates was a sham.

And how is anyone on the team getting a fresh start? Maybe Brindy has a different take vs Peters on some guys but both Waddell and Brindy have been right there for years. There’s no fresh take here. Just picking the parts they didn’t like about Peters/RF apart.

 

[Brock Anton]

What a terrible crop of names, Brindy. Makes the WHL and it’s 46 different variations of ‘Braden’ look normal.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I love how it’s completely snuck in that Waddell is the new gm. It’s not even a headline, Brind’Amour is.

This is some bull **** right here. Can we find some quotes from Don saying he wasn’t going to be GM?

TD found his yes man from the get go. The whole bit about interviewing the top candidates was a sham.

Lol thinking about those interviews...

Dundon: “would you be willing to... CLIP MY TOENAILS”

Futa: “umm... no?”

 

[DaveG]

I love how it’s completely snuck in that Waddell is the new gm. It’s not even a headline, Brind’Amour is.

This is some bull **** right here. Can we find some quotes from Don saying he wasn’t going to be GM?

TD found his yes man from the get go. The whole bit about interviewing the top candidates was a sham.

And how is anyone on the team getting a fresh start? Maybe Brindy has a different take vs Peters on some guys but both Waddell and Brindy have been right there for years. There’s no fresh take here. Just picking the parts they didn’t like about Peters/RF apart.

He Dick Cheney'd the f*** out of this thing.
And if it gets out that he was actively sabotaging Ron Francis in regards to his relation with Dundon it's full on Phil Fulmer.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Disagree a little there. I think there are many teams and coaches that turn a team into something greater than the sum of its parts. I don’t think any can argue the forwards were that this year. In fact I’d argue we did the opposite this year.

There are degress of effectiveness of a coach. I think assistant coaches have MUCH less impact on the game as the players or head coach does. The assistant coach has little autonomy, as while they may participate in system and personnel decision, they ultimately rely on the head coach. Rod's job is to effectively manage the forwards within the constraints of what Bill Peters demand.

IMO: A good head coach can take a bad team and make them "ok". He can take an OK team and make them good. He can take a good team, and make them even better. No head coach though is going to take a bad team and make them good-great.

You want to hire a guy with literally not a shred of evidence he’s a good coach? Hire me. I’ll do it, and I’ll do it for half of what you paid Peters.

And there's the problem with this. YOU and I don't have a shred of evidence if he's a good coach, but there are people within the organization who may certainly have a good idea about it. That's because we see less than 5% of what he does, they see most of what he does. We are making assumptions based on lack of data, they are making assumptions with insight to that data.

I'm not saying they'll be right, but they certainly have way more insight than we have. Rod certainly would not be my choice given the limited data.

 

[Brock Anton]

He Dick Cheney'd the **** out of this thing.
And if it gets out that he was actively sabotaging Ron Francis in regards to his relation with Dundon it's full on Phil Fulmer.

Fulmer? Wait, Tennessee rioted because of Schiano, lemme get my pitchfork and some paint. Assemble!

 

[Canes]

Lol thinking about those interviews...

Dundon: “would you be willing to... CLIP MY TOENAILS”

Futa: “umm... no?”

"If you accept our GM job, I can get you a really sweet deal on a 2006 Hyundai Sonata with only $100 dollars down and 25% interest rate. Sound good?"

 

[bleedgreen]

And where’s all that “we want to find new talent that is willing to prove itself at a fair price” now?

Waddell and Dudley?!?

I like Dudley but there’s nothing new and exciting going on with this group. What about Vellucci?

Our brave first step into the new world of the NHL is to bring in 2003.

I’m so annoyed about Waddell it’s distracting me about how I feel about Brindy being given the reins with zero head coaching experience.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yeah, but how can anyone know if he was good or bad given those circumstances? Seems like a crap-shoot to me. And the guy making this decisions has been very public about his lack of hockey knowledge within the last 5 months. So either he got real educated real quick, or we are going on wishes and prayers.

Oh, I don't disagree at all with this. We don't know either way so I would rather have a guy with more experience.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Oh, I don't disagree at all with this. We don't know either way so I would rather have a guy with more experience.

That’s the dumb thing about coaching though, even the guys with years worth of evidence are still debated.

Is AV a good coach? NO ONE ****ING KNOWS!

It’s one of the least known aspects of hockey by the fans.

 

[DaveG]

Fulmer? Wait, Tennessee rioted because of Schiano, lemme get my pitchfork and some paint. Assemble!

Was more thinking the active sabotage of the coaching search by Fulmer following the Schiano fiasco, up until it resulted in Fulmer getting named AD.

 

[CanesUltimate11]

 

[tarheelhockey]

He Dick Cheney'd the **** out of this thing.
And if it gets out that he was actively sabotaging Ron Francis in regards to his relation with Dundon it's full on Phil Fulmer.

6 months from now, Waddell is going to be the majority owner and talking about marrying Sansa to gain the north.

 

[Chrispy]

6 months from now, Waddell is going to be the majority owner and talking about marrying Sansa to gain the north.

Only to be outsmarted by KK Fritsch

 

[DaveG]

 

[Ole Gil]

I like the idea of Rod as a head coach. As a player, he did everything well through intelligence and hard work. Offense, defense, PK, and PP. He just seems like the kind of guy who understands the game on a really high level. And I get the sense he's going to be good for getting the most out of the players. He strikes me as a guy people want to follow.

But damn, wouldn't it be nice to go into a season not worrying if the head coach was any good for a change? It's been pretty similar to finding Cam's replacement. Khudobin, Lack, and Darling. All of them could have been the guy, but instead, we blew through 5 or 6 seasons. If they just bit the bullet, and spent what it took to get a good NHL goalie instead of rolling the dice. Seems like Muller, Peters, Brindy might be the same exact thing.

If we are going to take a flyer with the HC position, though, Brindamour is a fun choice.

 

[CandyCanes]

To me the strangest thing about all of this is Dundon's very clearly-stated philosophy that failure is unacceptable, and when you fail then you necessarily need to address everything you did, top-to-bottom. That justified firing Francis, and it justified running Peters out of town. The results weren't good enough. Failure is unacceptable. Disruption is necessary to move forward.

Then he hires Brind'Amour, who has assistant-coached this team to zero playoff seasons since 2011, was development coach during a period that we had virtually no development success, and oversaw one of the worst power plays in the NHL over the past several seasons. He has literally nothing on his coaching record BUT failure, why are we putting him in charge if failure is not an option?

Uhh are you forgetting that he's coached us to be the best faceoff team in the league?! Come on give this man some credit....