Confirmed with Link: Brassard re-signed (5 years, $5M per)
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Machinehead
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On the contrary, I think Rangers fans have gone soft. It's great we made the Finals but it seems like that means Sather can never make a mistake now.
Moon Knight
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Yeah, I think they are. However, my expectations for Brassard are much higher now.
His production should be like that of a 2nd liner or else he's gonna get ****ted on day and night on these boards.
Slats can make a mistake, but not every move he makes is a mistake. I think the Kreider contract is the only thing people haven't *****es about this summer.
Machinehead
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It's one the few things he hasn't massively dropped the ball on this summer.
And people complained about the Richards contract. Richards is an annual lock for numbers Brassard has never hit.
I would like to go back.
Zil
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Bad moves:
Only giving Zucc one year
Letting Stralman walk
Giving Brassard five years
Signing Glass
Letting Brian Boyle walk
Meh moves:
Signing Dan Boyle
Good Moves:
Signing Kreider
Signing Stempniak
Signing Lombardi
Not giving Pouliot $20 million
There's been a lot to ***** about.
i think its a good deal...maybe a little higher than we hoped for this year, but if he had signed a 1 year deal in arbitration he would have been looking at $6 mil plus. so he basically signed away 4 years of ufa for the same rate as his rfa year...
as the cap continues to go up and teams give out crazy contracts, this deal will look even better that we locked up up for so long
just think about how much $$ #2 center are gonna be paid in 4-5 years...and he's only 26 just entering his prime
as the cap continues to go up and teams give out crazy contracts, this deal will look even better that we locked up up for so long
just think about how much $$ #2 center are gonna be paid in 4-5 years...and he's only 26 just entering his prime
Guys,
I think youre seeing how the organization is valuing rfa players by position and future fit. Mza is probably more replaceable than brassard. Given our prospect depth on wing- zucc longterm might not be worth a longertern deal or mgmt is taking wait a yr to see prospects development in relation to zucc next yr production before giving him a contract.
Again, i believe you cant have a msl and zucc on one team and compete against lak types
HockeyBasedNYC
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Brassard makes more per year than McDonagh lol
That's what the markets about with centers. Gotta live with it. 4.5 would've been nice though.
That's what the markets about with centers. Gotta live with it. 4.5 would've been nice though.
Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
This just creates even more pressure for the Staal and Stepan situations.
If we want to keep Stepan, we'll likely have 11-12mil locked up in our top two centers for the next 5 years.
If we want to keep Staal, we may have north of 20mil locked up in our top-4 D, and except
for Dan Boye, they're all long-term.
One positive: Brassard's contract doesn't have a NTC.
Hopefully he's able to continue improving now that he's really found a home and some chemistry in NY. He certainly has the skill to be a 50-60 point center. It's simply a matter of consistency.
If we want to keep Stepan, we'll likely have 11-12mil locked up in our top two centers for the next 5 years.
If we want to keep Staal, we may have north of 20mil locked up in our top-4 D, and except
for Dan Boye, they're all long-term.
One positive: Brassard's contract doesn't have a NTC.
Hopefully he's able to continue improving now that he's really found a home and some chemistry in NY. He certainly has the skill to be a 50-60 point center. It's simply a matter of consistency.
offdacrossbar
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That's a lot of years and cash for what he's done so far.
Not having poo on his wing this season will be interesting.
He's a good player and he is, sadly, our 2c and that's, well..... not that good really.
Don't think we had any choice whatsoever but to pay the guy and HOPE his production warrants his contract. He's young and affordable and signed. His production is the big IF and now he's without his sniper on his wing.
That's not an ideal position to be in
Not having poo on his wing this season will be interesting.
He's a good player and he is, sadly, our 2c and that's, well..... not that good really.
Don't think we had any choice whatsoever but to pay the guy and HOPE his production warrants his contract. He's young and affordable and signed. His production is the big IF and now he's without his sniper on his wing.
That's not an ideal position to be in
some marketing experience here, i find salaries fascinating.
Back in the day when we did case studies on how customers reacted to prices of products, people would be more inclined to purchase a product more often when the price was ending in .95 cents vs. .99 cents.
Now, i would love to have had a quick poll on how many people would have liked the signing of brassard at 4.95 million vs. 5 million......
I would be the that visual aspect of seeing his salary start with a 4 and end with the 95 would make many think it was more of a fair deal....... when i reality it would have only been a $50,000 difference.
Back in the day when we did case studies on how customers reacted to prices of products, people would be more inclined to purchase a product more often when the price was ending in .95 cents vs. .99 cents.
Now, i would love to have had a quick poll on how many people would have liked the signing of brassard at 4.95 million vs. 5 million......
I would be the that visual aspect of seeing his salary start with a 4 and end with the 95 would make many think it was more of a fair deal....... when i reality it would have only been a $50,000 difference.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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What about this coaching staff suggests they label lines "1-2-3"?
Brassard put up 45 points. That IS "2nd line" production. 45 other players labeled as "centers" (a handful of which aren't/weren't centers) scored more points.
These labels are subjective.
This coaching staff doesn't care about outsiders' labels. They don't operate that way. They roll three "scoring lines" and use and trust the 4th line in any situation they see fit. At times, the "4th line" will play more consistently late in games than any of the top three lines.
Apparently 5 million is on par with market value. Rangers got a ton of bang for their buck last season, this summer they have had to pay for it.
Next summer they will, too.
That is what happens to teams that make multiple deep runs in a 3 year span.
Next summer St. Louis and Staal come off the books. There is Stepan's and Zuccarello's money. They will find a way to fit Hagelin, who is one of the more unique players in the league.
They will have to continue to suppliment the core with value UFA signings (like Pouliot, D.Moore, Stralman were, and hopefully Stempniak and Lombardi, etc. will be) and cheap youth.
It won't stop them from being competitive.
Giving Zucc 1 year may have been a very smart move. It remains to be seen. We'll see what happens next season.
We didn't "let" Brian Boyle walk. He wanted a bigger role. It wasn't about money. I think we definitely would've given him the same contract he got in Tampa, but he wants the opportunity for a 3rd line spot and a bigger role, perhaps with occasional front-of-the-net PP time. He wasn't getting that here. Move on.
Stralman chose Tampa because he got more years. We offered the same cap-hit for less term. He left. It happens. Sather shouldn't have to bend to every FA's demands. Dan Boyle is a fine replacement for Stralman for the next two years (perfect term).
Brassard at 5mil seems slightly high to me, but it remains to be seen whether the 5mil or 5 years were a bad move.
Stop whining about anything you can possibly whine about. You'll be much happier and calmer if you just accept what it can't control, stop assuming / pretending you know how the future will unfold.
It's been a fine offseason. We have a great team. And the trade deadline is in Feb/March, not July. The roster today won't be the one we ice for game 1 of the playoffs. Relax.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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I think people are underplaying how the term (in addition to the cap hit) is effecting people's thoughts on this.
I agree with most of this, but I think Pouliot's contribution to that line is a bit overstated. He was very good along the boards and potted 15 goals, but it was Zuccarello that made that line tick. The chemistry shouldn't be ignored, but I have no doubts that Brassard and Zuccarello can recreate their magic, and even improve upon last seasons production, especially with Nash or Kreider in Poo's spot. They're both much, much better players.
Calling Pouliot (15 goals) a sniper is silly.
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