Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

[Agent Zuuuub]

all this about going after players or not is a distraction from the real issue which is brady's and the teams selfish play.

the other teams know this group is emotional and you just have to poke them a little to get them rattled. it's just playing into their plan.

they need to focus on their own play instead of yapping or getting revenge.

 

[Korpse]

I mean, one response would be for Brady to grab Barkov and pound him into next week if Mathew wants to play games.

Sure. You can go after other players but it’s not going to stop Matthew. He calmed down a lot of his shit against Edmonton after he had to fight Kassian.

 

[Answer]

Brady refusing to go after his brother while Matthew is literally starting a fight with our goalie at center ice is embarrassing.

He's our captain and a tough dude and he's letting the other teams super pest just get right in our goalies face and slashing him.

I get not wanting Brady to fight scrubs, but 100 point players starting shit with our goalies? That's exactly who we want him to fight.

As captain, it's super embarrassing.

The different between Matthew and Brady is that Matthew is very effective in what he does and he takes care of business without you even realizing it before its too late. Lets talk, more action and effectively at that

Brady on the other hand pretends he is doing a lot and you can clearly see its vert ineffective and producing no results in the end

 

[Answer]

Sure. You can go after other players but it’s not going to stop Matthew. He calmed down a lot of his shit against Edmonton after he had to fight Kassian.

He didn't calm his shit after he had to fight Kassian. This is what he is. Mathew is not Chris Neil. He is a bonified superstar. He is not going to get involved in fighting majors all the time especially now that he is knows how valuable he is to the Team. But if he have to he will take on 2 Kassians any day

 

[jbeck5]

Lol seriously. Bad example there.

I'm not sure Brady wants that smoke tbh.

What? He's strong, but he's not a fighter. HE wouldn't want that smoke.

It's like listening to Methot talk about how he didn't want anything to do with any guy who liked fighting even if they were much smaller than Methot.

Methot being a huge strong guy (much heavier and more physical than barkov) didn't mean he was looking forward to any fisticuffs.

I guarantee you barkov would hate having to throw punches and get punched in the face by Brady. That's not what he likes. That's not his game. Barkov is strong like Hossa is strong, but when it comes to dropping the gloves, they're princesses.

Regardless, if you're not going to go after your brother who's starting shit because you're scared of your mom, then you better respond to Matthew challenging guys like Sanderson by going challenging barkov. Go after him. Then go after Reinhart. Go after 180lb verhaeghe. Go after 21 year old Lundell.

Whatever Matthew does, outdo him by 50%.

I agree with everyone that the better solution is to play good hockey and let them get penalties and capitalize ( a la Jacques Martin days) but once the game is already lost, handle your business.

 

[jbeck5]

He didn't calm his shit after he had to fight Kassian. This is what he is. Mathew is not Chris Neil. He is a bonified superstar. He is not going to get involved in fighting majors all the time especially now that he is knows how valuable he is to the Team. But if he have to he will take on 2 Kassians any day

Well, if this is the case, and fighting won't stop him like carkner on Boyle, then you have to crush him with an open ice hit like Neil did. (Speaking of Neil).

Just like he targets and charges our players, you have to get someone to take a run at him while his head is down and he's fighting for the puck along the boards. Kind of like how they targeted stutzle while he was engaged along the boards, but even harder, and to hurt.

 

[Adrianopolous]

His stats are really disappointing this year

 

[Micklebot]

His stats are really disappointing this year

48g 72 pts pace is really disappointing?

 

[Adrianopolous]

48g 72 pts pace is really disappointing?

That’s not enough for his calibre player. He needs to put up 100 points minimum. What does Brady do better than Matthew that justifies 30 less points a year? Don’t even mention defence because I think Matthew is better than him even in that regard.

And please don’t say leadership either!! Kyle Connor currently has more points than Brady along with someone like Sam Reinhart. 70 points is nothing in this day and age especially someone on a first line who gets prime time offensive zone starts and Pp time.

Also you’re kidding yourself if you think Brady is finishing with 48g. I will win the lottery before that happens.

 

[DueDiligence]

The different between Matthew and Brady is that Matthew is very effective in what he does and he takes care of business without you even realizing it before its too late. Lets talk, more action and effectively at that

Brady on the other hand pretends he is doing a lot and you can clearly see its vert ineffective and producing no results in the end

What BS.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

That’s not enough for his calibre player. He needs to put up 100 points minimum. What does Brady do better than Matthew that justifies 30 less points a year? Don’t even mention defence because I think Matthew is better than him even in that regard.

And please don’t say leadership either!! Kyle Connor currently has more points than Brady along with someone like Sam Reinhart. 70 points is nothing in this day and age especially someone on a first line who gets prime time offensive zone starts and Pp time.

Also you’re kidding yourself if you think Brady is finishing with 48g. I will win the lottery before that happens.

Who’s arguing that Brady is better than Matthew?

Matthew is a top top player on the league.

 

[robsenz]

His stats are really disappointing this year

lol

That’s not enough for his calibre player. He needs to put up 100 points minimum. What does Brady do better than Matthew that justifies 30 less points a year? Don’t even mention defence because I think Matthew is better than him even in that regard.

And please don’t say leadership either!! Kyle Connor currently has more points than Brady along with someone like Sam Reinhart. 70 points is nothing in this day and age especially someone on a first line who gets prime time offensive zone starts and Pp time.

Also you’re kidding yourself if you think Brady is finishing with 48g. I will win the lottery before that happens.

Brady creates space for his linemates and creates havoc in front of the net.
A lot of what makes Brady unique does go unseen during games, like how he boxes out D in the blue paint.
He's practically has double the goals from anyone else on the roster right now and puts the most pucks on net leads the team in hits, He never needs to score 100 points in the NHL.

Matthew is a much higher skilled player no doubt, he'll likely outscore Brady his entire career.

Every team in the NHL wishes they had a Brady Tkachuk on their roster.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Bradys stats are hella flattering right now.

I'm pretty sure most of the goals come from a couple of games.

But it bodes well, if he starts playing better the stats should increase.

The only thing is that he needs to get better away from Stutzle, he is a 8 mill player on his own. He should be able to create and produce with other players.

 

[Micklebot]

That’s not enough for his calibre player. He needs to put up 100 points minimum. What does Brady do better than Matthew that justifies 30 less points a year? Don’t even mention defence because I think Matthew is better than him even in that regard.

And please don’t say leadership either!! Kyle Connor currently has more points than Brady along with someone like Sam Reinhart. 70 points is nothing in this day and age especially someone on a first line who gets prime time offensive zone starts and Pp time.

Also you’re kidding yourself if you think Brady is finishing with 48g. I will win the lottery before that happens.

Matthew is on pace for 11 goals, seems Brady is doing that significantly better and typically has over their careers.

Oh, and Matthew is on pace for 67 pts so far, not 100, so how many less is that? Who's stats are disappointing?

He's significantly more physical, a better fighter takes faceoffs, typically gets more takeaways and has fewer giveaways,

He's also 2 years younger, Matthew only broke out two seasons ago

 

[Micklebot]

Who’s arguing that Brady is better than Matthew?

Matthew is a top top player on the league.

Certainly was the last two years, I don't think Brady is there yet, but he's also paid a million less so there's that.

I think Brady should have a few more pts than he does, I also think he can play better than he has so far, but if he gets 40g and 80 pts that's a hell of a season with everything else he brings. Is it as good as his brother getting 100 pts, maybe not but I'm happy with what he brings.

 

[Answer]

Bradys stats are hella flattering right now.

I'm pretty sure most of the goals come from a couple of games.

But it bodes well, if he starts playing better the stats should increase.

The only thing is that he needs to get better away from Stutzle, he is a 8 mill player on his own. He should be able to create and produce with other players.

Let me point out something very factual which will hurt a lot of Brady fans

Brady will not be very productive if he is the best offensive player on his line

He works well with Giroux and Stu because he is the 3rd best offensive player on the team. Since Stu and Giroux have the skill-set to be a PPG players, Brady will be a PPG, as well, playing with them

Brady also worked well with Norris and Batherson, since he was the 2nd best offensive player on the Team. How ever, Batherson and Norris are only good enough to be 50-60 point players, hence so will Brady if he plays a full season with these two

You put 3 Brady on one line and you will see a prime Fisher like production with probably more goals than assists

 

[DaveMatthew]

48g 72 pts pace is really disappointing?

His numbers aren't bad overall, but he's been pretty inconsistent. He's only scored in 5 of 17 games. In 2 of the last 9, when the heat has been turned up.

 

[Micklebot]

His numbers aren't bad overall, but he's been pretty inconsistent. He's only scored in 5 of 17 games. In 2 of the last 9, when the heat has been turned up.

If he was consistent, maybe he'd be that 100 pts player...

I don't see his production as out of line from his underlying metrics, he probably should have a few more assists and maybe his sh% is a touch higher than expected, but mostly the chances are their to support his production.

 

[BankStreetParade]

I know there's some sort of family moratorium on the brothers fighting each other despite how crazy their games tend to get but I feel like Brady should have tuned up a guy like Bennett or Ekblad just to prove a point to his brother to cut the shit. Then Matthew has to answer to his teammates about why his brother is pummelling them. It's the only way to change the trajectory of the games against them going forward.

 

[Korpse]

I know there's some sort of family moratorium on the brothers fighting each other despite how crazy their games tend to get but I feel like Brady should have tuned up a guy like Bennett or Ekblad just to prove a point to his brother to cut the shit. Then Matthew has to answer to his teammates about why his brother is pummelling them. It's the only way to change the trajectory of the games against them going forward.

Instead Matthew has fought Batherson and Sanderson. Brady has fought Marc Staal...

 

[Burrowsaurus]

His numbers aren't bad overall, but he's been pretty inconsistent. He's only scored in 5 of 17 games. In 2 of the last 9, when the heat has been turned up.

Yeah he’s been whatever. Way too much complicated shit. Last night we have possession and he does a no look spinorama to the front of the net with a defender just waiting

 

[OD99]

Yeah he’s been whatever. Way too much complicated shit. Last night we have possession and he does a no look spinorama to the front of the net with a defender just waiting

Yes, but when you need to score with limited time you do start to make desperation plays. I give him a pass on that one

 

[Sting]

Yes, but when you need to score with limited time you do start to make desperation plays. I give him a pass on that one

He makes a lot of incredibly low percentage plays though throughout a game. Virtually every top player is consistently taking high danger, high percentage shots or chances. Brady is just as happy to backhand it from the point as he is taking a slot wrister. Again, how much can you fault Brady when he's trying to do everything he can to win? Coaches need to be upfront with people instead of being scared to upset their buddies.

 

[DJB]

Bradys stats are hella flattering right now.

I'm pretty sure most of the goals come from a couple of games.

But it bodes well, if he starts playing better the stats should increase.

The only thing is that he needs to get better away from Stutzle, he is a 8 mill player on his own. He should be able to create and produce with other players.

It’s hilarious watching you continue to spin your negative wheels about Brady each day only to continue to be proven otherwise.

You have zero credibility

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

It’s hilarious watching you continue to spin your negative wheels about Brady each day only to continue to be proven otherwise.

You have zero credibility

What is he proving otherwise?

I give props to Brady when he is playing well, especially defensively because he is good when he tries.

But he isn't proving shit otherwise right now. Only that the C was handed out too quickly.

But I get this pushback from the people who legit think Brady is the greatest Senators Captain ever, and Alfredsson, Stone and Karlsson are nothing compared to him so it a compliment when people like that tell me have I no credibility.