Player Discussion Braden Schneider

[LaffyTaffy13]

He really is Baby Trouba.

He can really throw them and I think he's a lot stronger than he looks. I know he's a gym rat... Add some boxing classes while we're at it

He really can chuck em. Ill never forget his first fight last year when he absolutely pummeled sharangovich

 

[Raspewtin]

this video from the Devils' broadcast has his fight with much better angles. It's more brutal than I thought:

 

[The Gloaming]

Schneider is a tough customer.

 

[Chytilmania]

Last week half the board wanted to trade him.

 

[eco's bones]

Schneider is good at it but he defends himself more than anything else. It's not like he's looking for it. I think he knows when he really clobbers someone with an open ice hit that like Trouba it might be coming. Open ice hits though are very much part of the game.

McLeod can fight too. He doesn't fight a lot either but he's more the type of player who will look for it than Schneider. As far as the fight itself they were both really throwing. Not like a lot of the grab and holds and maybe a noogie or two and wait for the linesmen to separate us things. The 80's, 90's, 2000's there were lots of fights like this. Players like Reaves, Lucic, MacDermid would do alright back then but maybe not be among the best. I liked it then but it's different now and it's okay with me that it's different. The NHL promoted all that and then turn their back on all the guys that wound up with concussion issues which is disgraceful on the league's part.

 

[haohmaru]

Last week half the board wanted to trade him.

Not the smart half.

 

[Raspewtin]

He's been pretty great these first two games. He was mostly pretty good against Carolina and Tampa last year too.

Guess he's also saving it for the POs lol

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Last week half the board wanted to trade him.

Only the clueless posters (for the record i dont know who actually said that but massive headshake to whoever did)

 

[Ohio Jones]

Anyone with impressions of Braden’s skating? My impression has been that he moves around pretty well out there, and it was his head more than his feet that was still adjusting to the pace of the NHL game, but you folks have watched him a lot more than I have.

Especially helpful would be links to video showing how effectively he gets around - gap control, pivots, setting up breakouts. Hard to find iso on a (mostly) defensive defender.

Any thoughts appreciated!

 

[duhmetreE]

Anyone with impressions of Braden’s skating? My impression has been that he moves around pretty well out there, and it was his head more than his feet that was still adjusting to the pace of the NHL game, but you folks have watched him a lot more than I have.

Especially helpful would be links to video showing how effectively he gets around - gap control, pivots, setting up breakouts. Hard to find iso on a (mostly) defensive defender.

Any thoughts appreciated!

this is his first season with coaching, so jury is still out.

His is a gym rat though and extremely dedicated to improving.

 

[LokiDog]

I think Schneids potential is still quite high. He’s like Lindgren/Trouba hybrid and super young. He can definitely be a mid-pair or compliment to a star D and potentially put up anything from 25-45 points while being physical and tough to play against. And with his age, he can potentially grow beyond warts that guys like Trouba have. He’s a good young defender that I’m happy to have.

 

[markymarc1215]

Very accurate assessment. I see him becoming a prime Dan Girardi type player with a little more grit in his peak. Not worried about Braden at all. Not ruling out become a top pair D one day at all.

 

[NYR Viper]

I think Schneids potential is still quite high. He’s like Lindgren/Trouba hybrid and super young. He can definitely be a mid-pair or compliment to a star D and potentially put up anything from 25-45 points while being physical and tough to play against. And with his age, he can potentially grow beyond warts that guys like Trouba have. He’s a good young defender that I’m happy to have.

I think pairing him with a veteran puck mover will really help his game. He needs to keep things simple and he needs to NOT be the relief valve for a partner he has to drag around every night.

 

[McRanger92]

I think pairing him with a veteran puck mover will really help his game. He needs to keep things simple and he needs to NOT be the relief valve for a partner he has to drag around every night.

Schneider's most frequent partners as a 20-21 year old were Patrik Nemeth, washed Justin Braun and Ben Harpur. Need i say more?

 

[bleedblue94]

Also I think the interview he did recently talking about adjusting to the lock scheme that the team is using now was interesting. He's trying to adjust from being told to go go go and pressure to a more methodical game. I think that was revealing as to why he would appear to have brain farts on games last year if he was constantly instructed to run around a pressure all the time. Sounded like the scheme was pressure the other team into chaos which would explain why better/skilled teams would pick us apart due to the lack of a cohesive d structure. The fact he openly acknowledged an adjustment to using a lock system was enlightening.

 

[Ohio Jones]

Appreciate the feedback, thanks folks.

 

[Rongomania]

Also I think the interview he did recently talking about adjusting to the lock scheme that the team is using now was interesting. He's trying to adjust from being told to go go go and pressure to a more methodical game. I think that was revealing as to why he would appear to have brain farts on games last year if he was constantly instructed to run around a pressure all the time. Sounded like the scheme was pressure the other team into chaos which would explain why better/skilled teams would pick us apart due to the lack of a cohesive d structure. The fact he openly acknowledged an adjustment to using a lock system was enlightening.

Really interesting and infuriating. No wonder fox looked like shit defensively too sometimes. These guys were being forced to abandon their hockey sense and it totally was not working sometimes (see our series losses the past two playoffs).

Sky freaking high on Schneids. Just turned 22. Still a baby. A terrifying baby. Sneaky good goal scorer too, would love to see him continue to work on finding lanes and getting a good shot off. He's better than Lindgren and Girardi offensively already imo. And faster than those two. Kids going to be such a player.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I never really worried about Schneider's game, since the day he was drafted.

Look, hes got 124 games and another 27 in the postseason and he just turned 22. He's had his moments but never a stretch that made you question if he should be sent down. He's got size, skill and leadership. He'll be around for a while

I think we will see him take a nice leap this year and next.

 

[TGWL]

Anyone with impressions of Braden’s skating? My impression has been that he moves around pretty well out there, and it was his head more than his feet that was still adjusting to the pace of the NHL game, but you folks have watched him a lot more than I have.

Especially helpful would be links to video showing how effectively he gets around - gap control, pivots, setting up breakouts. Hard to find iso on a (mostly) defensive defender.

Any thoughts appreciated!

It seems like sometimes his pivots get him burned. When there's good gap control he seems fine, but if he's thinking about a hit and changes his mind, he doesn't transition well to go the other way. When player go one way and change lanes on him he seems to lose them.

 

[CasusBelli]

I never really worried about Schneider's game, since the day he was drafted.

Look, hes got 124 games and another 27 in the postseason and he just turned 22. He's had his moments but never a stretch that made you question if he should be sent down. He's got size, skill and leadership. He'll be around for a while

I think we will see him take a nice leap this year and next.

They call him Baby Trouba for a reason ...

 

[Kravtsov420]

I’m hoping he takes a step this year because I didn’t think he had a great year last year tbh.

 

[Calad]

I see Kevin Klein as a sort of mold for Schneider

 

[Rongomania]

I see Kevin Klein as a sort of mold for Schneider

I think he's close to peak Klein already at freshly 22 years old... This kid is going to be a real animal.

 

[Kendo]

Still a baby. A terrifying baby.

I love this summary!

 

[Rongomania]

I love this summary!

For a dman especially he is so, so young. The experience he has in the league, his size, skill, dedication & attitude.. The things he needs to work on are honestly rather 'small' parts of the game. All comes with experience. Love this kid.