Player Discussion Braden Schneider

[Machinehead]

We joke about him being an offensive defenseman, but you know, he's not untalented.

He has a dangerous shot, he can skate with the puck, he can find an outlet with a pass. You need offensive skills to be effective at defense in the long-run.

 

[BroadwayHustle]

We joke about him being an offensive defenseman, but you know, he's not untalented.

He has a dangerous shot, he can skate with the puck, he can find an outlet with a pass. You need offensive skills to be effective at defense in the long-run.

His best asset for awhile has been his skating/entry when he has some room to skate

 

[Unpredictable1]

There's a great article in the Athletic about one of our youngest squad members whose really coming along. (only Rempe being younger)

Rangers regular after a journey of big hits and ball hockey

 

[LeetchisGod]

Several people were advocating getting rid of this kid. They must feel pretty dumb now. Patience is incredibly important with young defensemen.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

He's blossoming into a very good all-around Top4dman with a ceiling to be more than that

The biggest improvement and strenght of his game is puck retrieval.

He used to just get it and bank it off glass into the neutral zone so many times. Now I trust him maybe even as much as Adam Fox turning his back and collecting the puck and making the right play and getting it up the ice. Almost always seems to make the right play out of the zone, can skate it himself or make a good pass.

2nd best dman on the team

 

[TomBlizzy12]

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Gus-Trouba

Should be the playoff pairings

 

[RangersFan1994]

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Gus-Trouba

Should be the playoff pairings

I rather see Jones than Gus in the playoffs.

 

[jay from jersey]

Several people were advocating getting rid of this kid. They must feel pretty dumb now. Patience is incredibly important with young defensemen.

But he’s just big and people think he’s good… smh
Sophomore slumps are actually a real phenomenon, especially for kids who have never played that much hockey In condensed 82gm season and playoffs before.
Bigger defensemen also take longer to mature. It just a fact…
Kaiden Guhle is having a similar path to Schneider right now. Some Habs fans want to trade him… if I’m sturdy, I’m all over that…..
Show of hands, who is still saying Nils is better??

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

So glad we traded up to steal him from the Devils

He’s really stepped up lately and he’s learning how to get out of trouble using his skating.

I think this is just the start for this kid.

22 and over 200 games

 

[mrmovies779]

Kid has really stepped up his game.He's ready for Troubas minutes permanently

 

[bl02]

Love this kid. One JD and Gorton were definitely right about.
His attitude is off the charts as well.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

It's funny, I and many others were killing him so much because he was a young defenseman struggling. We fans suck. All we ever talk about is rebuild when the team isn't perfect and then we shit on every young player that doesn't start his career as well as Crosby.

 

[SA16]

He is definitely not ready to replace Trouba’s minutes. This just shows the bias against Trouba. In the last 8 games the numbers for him/miller as a pair are absolutely horrible. Visually I’ve noticed numerous turnovers and bad decision making.

 

[eco's bones]

He is definitely not ready to replace Trouba’s minutes. This just shows the bias against Trouba. In the last 8 games the numbers for him/miller as a pair are absolutely horrible. Visually I’ve noticed numerous turnovers and bad decision making.

Part of that I think comes from not only the increase in their minutes but Schneider is also getting Trouba's matchups. He's seeing more of the better players. Judging off our last several games is a bit screwy anyway. When a team is playing 6 in 9 nights and heading towards 9 in 15 there are going to be some off nights for players here and there and the team on the whole. A playoff schedule is not even as rough as that. That we've been winning most of them is an accomplishment.

I do think the Trouba and Lindgren hate is a bit much and I seriously doubt the Rangers will even contemplate moving Trouba anywhere at least not until the summer before his contract year. The Rangers don't have a lot of in house ready replacements for D either. The same with Kreider. I know his 35 to 40 goals a year has gotten kind of boring for some people but hoping one of our kids will replace that kind of production (and kill penalties too) anytime soon is probably asking too much.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Several people were advocating getting rid of this kid. They must feel pretty dumb now. Patience is incredibly important with young defensemen.

Imo we should tread lightly with Robertson as well, imo he needs to get up with the club next year. When Schneider was in the AHL he looked average as well. Robertson has all the tools and WHL resume to go with it, need to give him some runway

He is definitely not ready to replace Trouba’s minutes. This just shows the bias against Trouba. In the last 8 games the numbers for him/miller as a pair are absolutely horrible. Visually I’ve noticed numerous turnovers and bad decision making.

I'd replace Trouba on that pairing, and I'd love to see a Jones and Trouba pair, one guy for the physical side and the other for skating and breakouts. Just run the three pairs then.

 

[leetch99]

I rather see Jones than Gus in the playoffs.

Go with 7 D .

 

[Raspewtin]

I rather see Jones than Gus in the playoffs.

I'd rather see Jones and Gus than Lindgren

 

[leetch99]

So glad we traded up to steal him from the Devils

He’s really stepped up lately and he’s learning how to get out of trouble using his skating.

I think this is just the start for this kid.

22 and over 200 games

People someday will remember that Turk had faith in him and Schneider also played under Turk at the World Championships and won Gold and that was BEFORE he even played a regular season game with NY . Then he went on and played 2 seasons under Turk in NY and here we are .....I am some glad we kept him and it is nice to see a kid taking off right before our eyes . Him and Laf and to some degree Miller ...a huge sigh of relief .

 

[WojtekWolski86]

Not only does he look like Braden Routh in Superman but his performance is underrated as well.

 

[Psycho for Perreault]

He is definitely not ready to replace Trouba’s minutes. This just shows the bias against Trouba. In the last 8 games the numbers for him/miller as a pair are absolutely horrible. Visually I’ve noticed numerous turnovers and bad decision making.

As opposed to the Trouba numbers which for an extra $7 million per year are…..probably even or worse.

 

[Ruggs225]

He should stay with miller once troubs and lindgren are back.

They look really good together.

 

[SA16]

As opposed to the Trouba numbers which for an extra $7 million per year are…..probably even or worse.

I think you can safely assume that Trouba's numbers on that pair are significantly better or I would not have bothered making the post.

Schneider has the 4th worst xG% of any defenseman in the league over these past 8 games (100+ mins) and we're just hearing about how great he's done. He's stepped into the role and he has not succeeded in it.

 

[lakeshirts37]

I rather see Jones than Gus in the playoffs.

Idk I think I’d rather Gus’ size to start in round 1. Can always rotate Jones in if it doesnt work.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I think you can safely assume that Trouba's numbers on that pair are significantly better or I would not have bothered making the post.

Schneider has the 4th worst xG% of any defenseman in the league over these past 8 games (100+ mins) and we're just hearing about how great he's done. He's stepped into the role and he has not succeeded in it.

Are you looking for mistakes on the ice to support the analytics or do you honestly think hes looked like shit out there?

Because I think he's been developing nicely and had a very good game last night, on the road in Boston against the leagues "best" team.

Also, is xG% the best stat to be looking at? Schneider is developing his offensive, but he's really a stay at home type of Dman. I get that possession, accuracy of passing and giveaways can lead to that number, but how useful is that stat for defenseman?

If he has been that atrocious then why would the coaching staff (who also use advanced metrics and analytics) continue to put him out there in his current role?

 

[GAGLine]

Imo we should tread lightly with Robertson as well, imo he needs to get up with the club next year. When Schneider was in the AHL he looked average as well. Robertson has all the tools and WHL resume to go with it, need to give him some runway

The problem is that Robertson will be waiver eligible. He may get a 1-year deal and be given a chance to impress in camp, but I don't get the feeling that the Rangers will be worried about losing him the way they were with Jones or Hajek. Zero NHL games in 3 years as a pro, and when Lindgren got hurt, they called up Scanlin. That speaks volumes about where the Rangers think his game is.