Mike in Houston
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The kid definitely looks like he belongs. Good pick by Gorton and Davidson.
Player Discussion Braden Schneider
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bleedblue94
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There is a difference in picking spots for a guy that can do it and people talking about him like he needs to go fight. If Trouba couldnt fight it doesnt make him any less of an impact. It is an enormous plus that he can stand up for himself when these donkeys start crying bc they cant take a hard hit.
Reminds me of Vlasic and for whatever reason, he skates exactly how I remember Keith Ballard skating
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It seemed Chris Morehouse was the big Schneider backer. JD asked the group if you would take Schneider at #15. Morehouse said all day. The Rangers were trying to trade up from #22. The Leafs were at #15 in 2020. Gorton found a taker at the Flames pick at #19.
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This kid is so impressive. I love how he does all the little things right, half the time you don't really even notice just how impactful he is unless you really pay attention to him on the ice. He's going to be a great defensemen in this league for a very long time. I hated when we didn't take a Center with this pick in 2020, I won't deny that. Now, I am very happy that I was wrong.
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What impresses me the most about him so far is that he doesn't look like he's overplaying anything. Sure he's had a couple of gaffs, but that's to be expected. This is just his baseline ability. He's upside is through the roof. Even if he were never to get any better, he'd already be a top - 4 defenseman. Really, really impressive.
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Think about it, does a team have a better right side then Fox, Trouba and Schneider? Is anyone even close with how hard it is to find right defensemen?
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Thank God for JD. You just know Gorton would be going off the board for a European player who has attitude issues
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Ekblad Weegar and Montour with Florida is probably your closest competition if we're talking right-side specific.
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Weegar has been very impressive. Seems like he came out of nowhere.
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I was surprised Morehouse stuck around after JD left. He might be the first nepotism hire that actually works out
Thought of both Andersson and Kravtsov? Chytil has health issues. Too weak and soft. But at least he is not a immature baby.
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Weager is a RHD that plays the left side on the top pairing with Ekblad.
I think his debut has been at least as impressive so far or even moreso than McDonagh's. He's smooth as silk out there.
People have compared him to Trouba but I'm not sure if I'm seeing the comparisons. Trouba is basically a bulldozer with a shotgun attached to it. Schneider is much more cerebral with softer hands.
People have compared him to Trouba but I'm not sure if I'm seeing the comparisons. Trouba is basically a bulldozer with a shotgun attached to it. Schneider is much more cerebral with softer hands.
I think people are comparing him to Trouba because he's got size and a willingness to use it, but yes he's got a far better outlet pass, and he's better at jumping into the play than Trouba.
He still hasnt grown into his size yet either which is scary good.
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Also, the one you might want is to keep if you are going for it.
He's better defensively than young Trouba too.
People forget, but Trouba has always been more of a masher with a cannon of a shot, not a defense first guy.
I hope he can become a right handed Slavin. Similar tool kits.
I don't know why, but when I watch Schneider play, I can't help thinking of JovoCop.
He's kind of been everything I expected him to be on defense and in the NZ. But what I've been pleasantly surprised by is his offensive instincts and skills.
Kind of thought he'd be more of a back end guy, not quite stay at home, but certainly defense first. But he actually looks more well balanced and I honestly could see him, somewhere down the road, getting more PP time. And his shot, I think he could even snipe on a PP, maybe even with Fox at some point. But his passing and instincts all around have been above average. Think it's only a matter of time before he starts putting up points more regularly. I don't think a 40 point Dman is out of the question sometime down the road.
Kind of makes it easier to move one of the other D prospects, because I can't see Schneider going back down the way he's been playing. And I'm totally ok with a right side of Fox, Trouba, Schneider going forward. Heck, Trouba's been terrific this year, which is a nice surprise, but I would definitely give Schneider more ice time than a normal 3rd pairing guy. And soon enough, I could see Jones being an ideal LD partner for him.
He's kind of been everything I expected him to be on defense and in the NZ. But what I've been pleasantly surprised by is his offensive instincts and skills.
Kind of thought he'd be more of a back end guy, not quite stay at home, but certainly defense first. But he actually looks more well balanced and I honestly could see him, somewhere down the road, getting more PP time. And his shot, I think he could even snipe on a PP, maybe even with Fox at some point. But his passing and instincts all around have been above average. Think it's only a matter of time before he starts putting up points more regularly. I don't think a 40 point Dman is out of the question sometime down the road.
Kind of makes it easier to move one of the other D prospects, because I can't see Schneider going back down the way he's been playing. And I'm totally ok with a right side of Fox, Trouba, Schneider going forward. Heck, Trouba's been terrific this year, which is a nice surprise, but I would definitely give Schneider more ice time than a normal 3rd pairing guy. And soon enough, I could see Jones being an ideal LD partner for him.
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I've been saying for a while that I think Schneider is the only young D of the bunch that is untouchable. Didn't expect him to be this good so soon, or show this much offensive ability, but he's proving that.
And I've been a big Jones guy for a while, especially due to him being an offensively minded LD, which I think we need.
For me, unless Lundqvist came in and blew everyone away, I've kind of thought he'd be the odd man out. Not that he's a bust or anything, not even that he will get moved, just that I think he's the most likely to. Plus he'd get us a fairly big return. For me, it came down to having Fox and Schneider being a big, tough, strong defensive guy. We still have Trouba for at least two years until his NMC is out and that leaves one RD spot to develop one of our prospects in. And I just thought it would be Schneider, who would eventually replace Trouba. And sure, we could have Lundkvist as a 3rd pair RD at that point, but if he's as good as he can be and develops soon enough, I am not sure a 3rd pair role is fair to him in terms of his own development. At least not in another 2 years time. For right now it would be fine if he was performing, but Schneider kind of shot that out of the water I think. So unless he can compete with Jones for a LD spot, or unless he outshines Miller at some point, just not sure where he would fit in.
Same goes for Robertson, all though, I could see Robertson being more of a long term 3rd pair LD, who won't necessarily have to get more time to develop, just because I don't think his ceiling is as high.
But yea, I have been suggesting we move Nils for an equivalent young center. Someone like Turcotte or Perfetti or whatever. Really wanted Newhook, but he's not going anywhere now. I like Kupari too, but I think Robertson would be more fair of a price to pay for him. Not sure if he's worth Lundkvist on his own.
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You’ve got to think that if a trade like that was on the table, it would have been made by now. I’m not sure Lundkvist is as coveted around the league as we think and hope he is.
You’ve got to think that if a trade like that was on the table, it would have been made by now. I’m not sure Lundkvist is as coveted around the league as we think and hope he is.
I don't know necessarily. If we are dealing with prospects here, it's not necessarily something either team would prioritize in terms of expediency. Especially with the Rangers doing so well. I mean, I would hope if we did get a player like that, they would slip into the lineup, right away. But it might not be an NHL ready prospect necessarily or someone the team thinks would be needed right now. So maybe even after the season?
As far as Lundkvist's value, I am sure we overvalue him at least a tad. But even if that's the case, he's still worth a 1st rounder, or 1st round talent I would think. Whether that's someone like Turcotte or Kupari I am not sure. I was kind of just using them as examples, all though I do think there's a clear pathway for trade between the Rangers and Kings. But just in general, I don't think there's any doubt we could use a young center with top 6 upside. Like, I think we should prioritize that whether Drury actually does or not. But since we have Strome still for now, maybe we wouldn't need that player until next season. All though I think they could be an upgrade over what we have now on our 3rd line and long term, hopefully over Strome. Unless they did something even bigger which might not be out of the question. We theoretically could trade Krav and Lundkvist for perhaps something superior. But I am just spitballing here.
While I am not enamored with Drury so far, I would have to hope he wouldn't accept anything less. Supposedly, and I tend not to believe this because it would mean Drury is a moron, but supposedly he turned down Kupari and a 1st for Buchnevich. At least that's what some claim based on a rumor, someone reported or tweeted. I mean, which if that is the case, then it would be safe to say I am not very optimistic about Drury's ability to manage assets, because to me at least, that would have been a far superior return to Blaise and a 2nd. Even though I like Blaise..... just not that much.
