Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[PromisedLand]

Star power tends to fade when removed from the bright lights of the Toronto market in hockey. It's not so much that guys can't go on to have success, because they often do once they're ex-Leafs. But it's people stop caring...

The biggest star who exited Toronto over the past 10 years was Phil Kessel. He went on to win multiple cups in Pittsburgh and put up career seasons there. Star power faded out.

Pens were lucky to get Kessel IMO the way they did as Leafs retained pretty much for the entire duration of his 8 year deal.

We got Tavares stinking up the joint with his 11 AAV and relative contribution 5on5 is a freakin JOKE. Even in the playoffs dude looked so out of place. The OT goal he gets credit for was all Knies IMO JT got lucky with a deflection from the tampa D-man

Leafs have gotta wait out Tavares' year IMO and just use these two year window as a re-tool and not invest heavily to go for it in the playoffs.

Leafs should plan their playoffs and cup run after Tavares' contract is off the books. We gotta be proactive here and cannot delay the decisions.

Unless one is McDavid or prime Crosby; they will always need a strong supporting cast in the playoffs and during those times we cannot have boat anchor contracts. We may even luck out the way Pens did with Kessel and we can have an asset from someone with retention.

 

[myleafs]

I get that the core 4 doesn't include Rielly. But, even though he's often left out, he is part of the core. There are 4 core forwards, but there are 5 members of the core on the team.

2 of the 5 got the max allowable term they could sign for.

JT still scored 80 points in 80 games in year #5 of his deal, while being a top-5 faceoff man. He also just scored the winning goal to end our first round curse. We have made worse signings than JT.

Tavares is what he is....he just isnt what we needed at the time.

 

[myleafs]

JT's deal set the standard for the rest of the core 3 and set our internal cap. Patty M playing dad for AM and MM set the table for how those negotiations would go.

Hated Marleau coming to the leafs...I get wanting to bring in a vet to help the youngins but they brought in a passive mr nice guy and the boys followed his lead. I remember one of Marleaus first games as a leaf and Kadri got dumped hard in front of the oppositions net and he got up and went at the player who did it and Marleau skates over and says "come on guys take it easy" and the rest is history.

 

[TMLAM34]

I wish Treliving could find a way to convince Tavares to waive his NMC but unfortunately we’re probably stuck with that contract.

 

[PromisedLand]

If that's Caufield deal doesn't show you how bad Dubas was...I don't know what will.

wow didn't even know until I saw your post. Not a day goes by where I dont hate what dubas did to this team

i really hope karma gets even with dubas with his career the way he screwed the leafs and leafs fans

 

[29Potvin]

Hated Marleau coming to the leafs...I get wanting to bring in a vet to help the youngins but they brought in a passive mr nice guy and the boys followed his lead. I remember one of Marleaus first games as a leaf and Kadri got dumped hard in front of the oppositions net and he got up and went at the player who did it and Marleau skates over and says "come on guys take it easy" and the rest is history.

Marleau,Thornton,Spezza all guys that won nothing in the league and had leadership issues surrounding them and were not surprised how this has turned out? Same as Gio

 

[ACC1224]

If that's Caufield deal doesn't show you how bad Dubas was...I don't know what will.

I'm sure we'll hear any time now how this isn't nearly as good a deal as the ones Dubas signed.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Brad Treliving and Kyle Dubas' press conferences represent fresh starts and lofty goals - NorthStar Bets

June 1, 2023

More than one industry source has pointed out that Treliving is not a dramatic departure from Dubas in terms of style and philosophy.

He’s just as skilled at commanding a microphone, too.

The temperature inside the Scotiabank Arena media room for Thursday’s press conference mirrored the recent atmosphere around the organization – “A little warm in here,” said Treliving, as a way of kicking things off – but the new GM managed to turn down the dial considerably over 25 minutes.

He spoke calmly and confidently. He didn’t make any promises that can’t or won’t be kept.

And, most importantly, he didn’t say anything that might send the rabid fanbase into a lather.

There will be plenty of crises both big and small to navigate in time, but with his wife Julie and daughters Ryann and Reese watching from the front row, Treliving restored some much-needed calm.

“I want to stress strongly – I’m not about coming in and making a statement,” said Treliving. “You can throw a body onto the tarmac and it might look good for a headline, but are you getting any better?”

“At the end of the day it’s about getting better.”

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Treliving’s interview process included a couple days of face-to-face meetings with Shanahan last week. Like Dubas in Pittsburgh, he was identified as the Leafs top candidate from the get-go.

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There is no one currently occupying the GM’s seat in Pittsburgh.

Dubas will handle those responsibilities on an interim basis through the draft and free agency because it’s such a critical time on the NHL calendar that he doesn’t think it’s a guarantee he’d receive “further permissions” from rival teams to interview candidates who had previously met with his bosses earlier in Pittsburgh’s process.

Besides, he didn’t sound like he was in a rush to install someone in that job.

“If we do go down that path, I think the type of person we’ll be looking for is someone progressive that can really add an element to the organization that perhaps I don’t have as a skillset,” he said.

It’s only natural to wonder if the future candidates might ultimately include someone like Brandon Pridham, the Leafs assistant GM and a longtime colleague. That will bear watching later in the summer, especially because Treliving seemed to enthused about inheriting a staff that includes the salary cap expert.

“He’s, to me in my mind, one of the very best if not the best at what he does in the league,” Treliving said of Pridham.

 

[Leaf Fans]

If that's Caufield deal doesn't show you how bad Dubas was...I don't know what will.

7.85 million for a guy that has never played a full season? He has 36 and 43 point seasons. Montreal are betting big on him. He isn't betting on him self. He is talented though.

 

[yubbers]

7.85 million for a guy that has never played a full season? He has 36 and 43 point seasons. Montreal are betting big on him. He isn't betting on him self. He is talented though.

Fair. But I take that bet at that pice all day.

 

[Canadian Finn]

7.85 million for a guy that has never played a full season? He has 36 and 43 point seasons. Montreal are betting big on him. He isn't betting on him self. He is talented though.

I was told 100 times here that you aren't paying for their "now" but for their future...

(just that all goes to hell when the future is done and what you paid for never happened...but alas)

 

[Lightsol]

7.85 million for a guy that has never played a full season? He has 36 and 43 point seasons. Montreal are betting big on him. He isn't betting on him self. He is talented though.

Montreal's betting on Caufleld and Suzuki majorly breaking out and becoming consistent 30 goal 80 point guys. My gut tells me those'll be boat anchor contracts in a few years...

 

[Leaf Fans]

I was told 100 times here that you aren't paying for their "now" but for their future...

(just that all goes to hell when the future is done and what you paid for never happened...but alas)

Sure, Montreal is betting on their talented player. Dubas did the same thing with Nylander.

Fair. But I take that bet at that pice all day.

It could work out. The Leafs bet on Nylander clearly has.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Dubas pays extra for his buddies

If that's Caufield deal doesn't show you how bad Dubas was...I don't know what will.

 

[Canadian Finn]

Sure, Montreal is betting on their talented player. Dubas did the same thing with Nylander.


It could work out. The Leafs bet on Nylander clearly has.

sorry, did we sign willy for 8 years?

I'm trying to forget about the dubacancer, but if I recall, I don't think it was the same as Nylander, which you seem to keep suggesting.

of course, it's been a long time of poisoning, so my memory could be off.

 

[Leaf Fans]

sorry, did we sign willy for 8 years?

I'm trying to forget about the dubacancer, but if I recall, I don't think it was the same as Nylander, which you seem to keep suggesting.

of course, it's been a long time of poisoning, so my memory could be off.

Nope, we signed him for 6 years. We can extend him July 1 though.

 

[andora]

Lol.. i created a pie chart out of curiousity.. 84.5 cap. 7 forwards 6 dmen and 2 goalies signed.. so really only 5 holes technically

 

[Canadian Finn]

Nope, we signed him for 6 years. We can extend him July 1 though.

ok, so it wasn't my memory...just was a bad comparison.

 

[Leaf Fans]

ok, so it wasn't my memory...just was a bad comparison.

No, the comparison is fine. You just weren't sure.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Leafs blueliner T.J. Brodie sees a lot of Kyle Dubas in Brad Treliving

Brodie, soon eligible for an extension, played for Treliving in Calgary, where the GM showed compassion after the D-man suffered a seizure in practice.

www.thestar.com

Maple Leafs defenceman T.J. Brodie says he and his teammates were as surprised as anyone else by the news that Kyle Dubas would no longer be the team’s general manager.

“We had the same reaction as most people, a little surprised to hear that Kyle was moving on,” Brodie told the Star in a phone interview on Tuesday. “I talked to a couple of guys and everyone was sort of just wondering what’s going to happen next.”

What happened next — hiring former Flames GM Brad Treliving last Wednesday — put Brodie’s mind at ease. He and teammate Mark Giordano played for Treliving in Calgary.

“He’s great guy,” Brodie said of the Leafs’ new GM. “I thought he did a good job in Calgary when I was there. It’s one of those things where we’ll see what happens here.”

Treliving and Leafs president Brendan Shanahan said they would reach out to players in the aftermath of the announcement. The likes of Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner have had those conversations, but not the low-maintenance Brodie. At least not yet.

“I wasn’t talked to at all,” said Brodie. “Obviously there’s lots of chatter. Whenever a new guy comes in, he wants to go make the team his own, I guess. So, it’s just sort of waiting in the wings to see.”

Plenty of change is afoot with the Leafs. There is trade speculation every day, and 10 players will become unrestricted free agents.

“I’ve learned through the years, there’s no point in worrying about stuff that you can’t control,” said Brodie, back home and working out in the Chatham area. “My job now is to get ready for next year and stay in shape and go out there and play hockey. Whatever else happens, it’s out of my hands.”

It doesn’t seem to bother the veteran defenceman that he’s heading into the last season of a four-year, $20-million (U.S.) contract. Like Matthews and William Nylander, Brodie will be eligible to sign an extension on July 1.

“If (Treliving) comes to me and wants to talk, I’ll be open, obviously,” said Brodie. “But I’m not going to worry too much about it. There’s still a lot of other things that I have to worry about.”

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

This X 100.

Right after Dubas inability to finalize our goaltending, and just before his maddening obsession with skill vs grit, his inability to bring in a bonafide true RHD for Rielly was one of my main frustrations with Dubas.

Being satisfied with bandaids like Brodie and Hainsey, losing McCann to keep Holl rather than bringing in a true RHD was a peculiar blindspot for Dubas. The status quo was never good enough.

Hoping Treliving addresses this properly. We've had glimpses of how good Rielly can be when he has a suitable and complimentary partner.

Now lets get full value from Rielly and make our team better.

All this talk about dubas and skill yet he never really brought in any real skill. I don't think guys like kerfoot malgin engvall etc count for skill when theyre 3rd line material. How many years in a row have people said we need a top 6 LW in the dubas Era? All the other skill he inherited and got lucky JT only wants to play for Leafs. Dubas wasn't into skill or grit or good goalies. Bandaid everything with draft picks when it's too late

 

[New User Name]

I'm now convinced Shanahan was behind the contracts for Matthews and Marner.

Dubas never said the core 4 were untouchable. His main beef was he wanted more power, and not having to continue run everything through Shanahan. If he thought it was necessary to trade Matthews, Marner or Nylander he wanted to be able to do that with no interference from anyone.

It was that refusal, not just money IMO that got him turfed.

Why do I think that?

Shanahan reportedly contacted Matthews, Marner and Nylander and told them they would not be traded. Treliving has come out and said we need to do something with our defense.

I believe Dubas had every intention to try to get Matthews to at least agree to sign an extension on July 1, failing that he would have explored trading him.

So here we are. Same place as the Islanders were a few years.
I defended Tavares then and I will defend Matthews as well if he leaves.

We have him for one more year. We have an ability to get some kind of agreement from him on an extension for July 1. If we can't and he walks next year, it's all on Leafs management,

 

[hullsy47]

wow didn't even know until I saw your post. Not a day goes by where I dont hate what dubas did to this team

i really hope karma gets even with dubas with his career the way he screwed the leafs and leafs fans

Boy the elephant in any conversation
Dubas really left a mess
The more rhetoric u hear outside of Toronto is almost comedic
These guys have to commit to being the core 3
I don't blame tavaras and quite frankly I d settle for a poverty discount of 11x8 for both mtchy and mathews
.then u have a true core
Only hickey guys u see on the gambling adds In baseball are Gretzky and McDavid
The extra 5 mill a year u male in Toronto

 

[PromisedLand]

I'm now convinced Shanahan was behind the contracts for Matthews and Marner.

Dubas never said the core 4 were untouchable. His main beef was he wanted more power, and not having to continue run everything through Shanahan. If he thought it was necessary to trade Matthews, Marner or Nylander he wanted to be able to do that with no interference from anyone.

It was that refusal, not just money IMO that got him turfed.

Why do I think that?

Shanahan reportedly contacted Matthews, Marner and Nylander and told them they would not be traded. Treliving has come out and said we need to do something with our defense.

I believe Dubas had every intention to try to get Matthews to at least agree to sign an extension on July 1, failing that he would have explored trading him.

So here we are. Same place as the Islanders were a few years.
I defended Tavares then and I will defend Matthews as well if he leaves.

We have him for one more year. We have an ability to get some kind of agreement from him on an extension for July 1. If we can't and he walks next year, it's all on Leafs management,

What?

We had an entire thread here where people were bending over backwards to defned dubas and calling shanny "out of touch" (not a dig at OP in that thread as I think he had the right motivation in terms of cap allocation).

Proof: Shanahan's biggest gaffe shows he's out of touch: revisiting the "Discounts" quote

Will people stop deflecting the shit dubas has put this franchise through ffs.

 

[RoadWarrior]

After hearing his press conference, same sh$t, different GM.

People talk about a culture change for a reason. These young men are too immature and don’t show any signs of growing up. They simply don’t have what it takes. They don’t have that extra gear or killer instinct.

Sure let’s keep the core four because they’ve accomplished sooooo much.

Season accolades are great but they’re not what matters. This team sucks and fans have been brainwashed to accept mediocrity.

Blow it up I say and do it right.

This could very well be an ownership problem. Perhaps the MLSE board is simply enamoured with Marner and Matthews and they will not allow management to trade them or let them walk.

thankfully their agents might decide this for MLSE who have lost control of the situation.

If they pour $50M of cap space into these 4 guys I think it’s safe to say the team is going nowhere.