Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[jaric1862]

He hasn't made a single transaction yet, how can you already write him off?

Also - I honestly think this was Shanahan's back-up plan all along. When he made the move to fire Dubas he definitely already had Treliving in mind, a normal GM search takes longer than 10 days.

 

[notbias]

I like his draft record, he’s actually hit on some last round picks. Dubas was an awful drafter besides Knies, so many wasted picks over the years.

Not anything recent.

 

[SprDaVE]

Like I said Treviling seems more role driven, not the go-to decision maker. He’ll have input but Shanny probably has a lot of oversight on roster decisions, especially this off season..

Trevilling also has more support with guys like Pridham and other resources like player development.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are more changes in the upcoming weeks. GMs love to bring in their guys and people they worked with close. I do hope Pridham can stick around though.

 

[TheRumble]

Man you people who hated in Dubas for overpaying for the star players, I'd really like to see you guys defend this:

- James Neal
- Jacob Markstrom
- Blake Coleman
- 10th overall pick for Travis Hamonic
- Signing Tkachuk to. $7x3 deal which is one of the reasons why he asked to be traded
- Coaches hired: Glen Gulutzan and Bill Peters

He's not completely terrible ala Chiarelli. I will give him a great 15 and 16 draft and the Hanifin + Lindholm for Hamilton trade is a home rub.

Deserves the benefit of the doubt but this isn't even a lateral move from what we had.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

It’s funny seeing those with the blind love for Dubas now with the blind hatred for his replacement.
Predictable but funny none the less.

I mean literally the same thing but the opposite is also happening, but yes carry on. And if you mean me, I don't give a shit about dubas, but when you make a big change like replacing a gm after that clown show week, it better be worth it, and it wasn't.

 

[Bomber0104]

Man you people who hated in Dubas for overpaying for the star players, I'd really like to see you guys defend this:

- James Neal
- Jacob Markstrom
- Blake Coleman
- 10th overall pick for Travis Hamonic
- Signing Tkachuk to. $7x3 deal which is one of the reasons why he asked to be traded
- Coaches hired: Glen Gulutzan and Bill Peters

He's not completely terrible ala Chiarelli. I will give him a great 15 and 16 draft and the Hanifin + Lindholm for Hamilton trade is a home rub.

Deserves the benefit of the doubt but this isn't even a lateral move from what we had.

We're going to find out what happens.

I don't think anyone is wow'd by this hiring if it happens.

It seems like they're hiring someone with experience to instantly tackle some troubled waters ahead.

Troubled waters that our ex GM directly steered us into, personally.

 

[Future]

Treliving loses one fo the core to free agency, trades on the young players for two overrated players, signs them to insane contracts and then they miss the playoffs. That could also happen.

You’re assuming he can’t learn from his mistakes? You don’t think he would’ve handled some things differently in hindsight?

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Of course its a lateral move

We moved a middle of the pack GM who didnt want to be here for one who wants to be here

Top tier GMs dont come to Toronto. This team is straight ass (ownership, the coaches, the players) and has way to much pressure for any top tier GM to want to come here

I mean maybe I was expecting too much, actually getting a legit gm and/or coach for once but yea I actually agree with you.

 

[MK78]

I don't really mind the hire, if its true.

As long as it wasnt Bergevin or Chiarelli.

 

[notbias]

Man you people who hated in Dubas for overpaying for the star players, I'd really like to see you guys defend this:

- James Neal
- Jacob Markstrom
- Blake Coleman
- 10th overall pick for Travis Hamonic
- Signing Tkachuk to. $7x3 deal which is one of the reasons why he asked to be traded
- Coaches hired: Glen Gulutzan and Bill Peters

He's not completely terrible ala Chiarelli. I will give him a great 15 and 16 draft and the Hanifin + Lindholm for Hamilton trade is a home rub.

Deserves the benefit of the doubt but this isn't even a lateral move from what we had.

You've also left out some bad contracts. Kadri, Weeger, Huberdeau

 

[Azail]

What’s the worst than can happen?
Treliving overpays the core, they get 100 points, make the playoffs and lose in the first round. It will be like Dubas never left. That’s the bar at the moment. Anything more is gravy.

Well he could do what he did in Calgary, and trade a 25yr old superstar for a 29 year old star, sign him to a massively inflated contract, and then proceed to miss the playoffs.

 

[keonsbitterness]

No choice but to give him a chance, but, to use a popular word in this thread, I get how some fans feel.........

 

[notbias]

You’re assuming he can’t learn from his mistakes? You don’t think he would’ve handled some things differently in hindsight?

100%, but his moves seem to be getting worse, not better.

 

[Gallagbi]

I wouldn't be surprised if there are more changes in the upcoming weeks. GMs love to bring in their guys and people they worked with close. I do hope Pridham can stick around though.

Seems like our guys are getting plucked, so there should be room. I'm really interested to see what he does with Keefe.

 

[Future]

Man you people who hated in Dubas for overpaying for the star players, I'd really like to see you guys defend this:

- James Neal
- Jacob Markstrom
- Blake Coleman
- 10th overall pick for Travis Hamonic
- Signing Tkachuk to. $7x3 deal which is one of the reasons why he asked to be traded
- Coaches hired: Glen Gulutzan and Bill Peters

He's not completely terrible ala Chiarelli. I will give him a great 15 and 16 draft and the Hanifin + Lindholm for Hamilton trade is a home rub.

Deserves the benefit of the doubt but this isn't even a lateral move from what we had.

You named a home run trade for Treliving. Now name one for Kyle.

 

[DarkKnight]

No choice but to give him a chance, but, to use a popular word in this thread, I get how some fans feel.........

Seeing them Saturday night.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

You’re assuming he can’t learn from his mistakes? You don’t think he would’ve handled some things differently in hindsight?

Funny how you don't extend this grace to Dubas.

 

[WillNy29]

How could this be nepotism?

his old man is close to Tannenbaum and the Rogers family from all accounts

 

[Azail]

Treliving draft record from 2014 to 2016 included Matthew Tkachuk and Sam Bennett both playing for the Stanley Cup and well as Norris Dman Adam Fox.

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Yea, they are doing great things with the Flames organization. He's a master of keeping talent.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[PromisedLand]

They won a playoff series in 2015 (brad’s first season) and 2022 (right before losing Gaudreau and tkachuk). I wouldn’t give him much credit for 2015 tbh (unless Derek Engelland and mason raymond and Jonas hiller are considered pivotal pieces).

Under brad tre the flames missed the playoffs 4 times and made it 5 times. Yippee

Context: Flames never did the "scorched earth" post Iginla era and still have 5 out 9 seasons making playoffs. Of those Burke was the hockey ops guy running the show from 2013 to 2018 and Treliving was hired in 2014 if am not mistaken.

 

[notbias]

You named a home run trade for Treliving. Now name one for Kyle.

Not sure Dubas has one that good, he also doesn't have one as bad as him.

I am a big fan of the McCabe trade though, it isn't on par, but I think it is an amazing trade, probably my favorite.

 

[GoonieFace]

Well he could do what he did in Calgary, and trade a 25yr old superstar for a 29 year old star, sign him to a massively inflated contract, and then proceed to miss the playoffs.

I’m guessing people don’t understand the difference between the 2 markets. No players want to play in Calgary, so you have to overpay to keep them. We just had a terrible GM who overpays everyone so they can be friends with him

 

[DarkKnight]

Funny how you don't extend this grace to Dubas.

I voted for Dubas to return because he seemed to learn from his mistakes. Watch how these ideologues can’t do the same. I’m already bored.

 

[SprDaVE]

Man you people who hated in Dubas for overpaying for the star players, I'd really like to see you guys defend this:

- James Neal
- Jacob Markstrom
- Blake Coleman
- 10th overall pick for Travis Hamonic
- Signing Tkachuk to. $7x3 deal which is one of the reasons why he asked to be traded
- Coaches hired: Glen Gulutzan and Bill Peters

He's not completely terrible ala Chiarelli. I will give him a great 15 and 16 draft and the Hanifin + Lindholm for Hamilton trade is a home rub.

Deserves the benefit of the doubt but this isn't even a lateral move from what we had.

Markstrom this time last year was a Vezina finalist was he not? I know he stunk bad this past year but he was by all accounts a very good goaltender with the outliner being this past year.

Blake Coleman was always a hard working gritty complimentary mid-line player. Some people want more of those players around here. Not sure he's really an issue or that much of a terrible contract, but the term is ugly for a player of his ilk for sure. Something Dubas avoided and hopefully Treliving avoids.

He also got Tanev which was a big time home run for them. Trading for Zadorov for just a mid round pick was also damn good.

Neal and Brouwer contracts were awful for sure.