Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[Azail]

Who was responsible for keeping the coach, which ultimately forced Gaudreau and Tkachuk to leave?

People wanna make it look like his hands were tied...oh yes, by himself. He made those decisions. He hired Sutter, he kept Sutter, who forced Gaudreau and Tkachuk to leave.

It's all on Treliving no matter how you guys want to twist it. Than he goes and signs a 30 year old Huberdeau for 8 years and much more money than Tkachuk, and sigs an aging Kadri to a terrible contract while still keeping Sutter who is slowly destroying the team stability.

What a shitshow this will be here

I don't agree with a lot of what Tre did. But ownership would not let him fire the coach. I don't know whose call it was to hire him in the first place, but he wanted to let Sutter go. They only let him go after ownership spoke to the players and realized how much they didn't want him back. By that time Tre was already gone.

All reports are that Tre wanted Sutter gone, even possibly during the season.

 

[Amadeus]

Another thing to add here: Most hockey outlets have the Leafs prospect pool ranked above the Flames'

Think about where we've drafted under Dubas vs Calgary under Treliving. That ain't great sign either.

That being said I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt but the people here celebrating this as a definite upgrade are very knowledgeable NBA fans...

That's a reflection of our scouting staff. If there are no real changes made to Toronto's scouting staff you can expect similar drafts.

And if you want to go buy Calgary's drafts under Treliving, I would argue more impact players outside of first round have been added under Treliving than Toronto since 2014.

Rasmus Andersson, Adam Fox, Oliver Kylington, Andrew Mangiapane, Dustin Wolf -- those are all players Calgary drafted outside of 1st round. I'm not sure what Toronto has to show for outside of round 1 since 2014 onwards.

 

[stickty111]

There are worse options so it's not bad. Still it's a downgrade, but maybe the result is better. We'll see

 

[keonsbitterness]

The first Malgin trade was good if it meant us avoiding Marchment's bad contract.

Watching him closely vs Vegas, he really sucked.

 

[DarkKnight]

 

[Larcos_Unal]

 

[keonsbitterness]

?

That's a question mark.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Prediction Contest: Flames Fans will come in this thread saying "I come in peace", and then say something disparaging about this hire.

 

[Bomber0104]

The first Malgin trade was good if it meant us avoiding Marchment's bad contract.

Denis Malgin did absolutely nothing for the Leafs.

Mason Marchment did a lot for the Florida Panthers.

Again, you're having a hard time with very basic truisms and reality.

And why you're even mentioning Mason Marchment is beyond me. You can't help but inadvertently self-dunk on Dubas' pitiful trade record it seems

 

[DarkKnight]

So much for Dreger being useless, say useless people.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Nah, lateral move.

You know it's bad when the motto is "It could be worse"

 

[TheRumble]

That's a reflection of our scouting staff. If there are no real changes made to Toronto's scouting staff you can expect similar drafts.

And if you want to go buy Calgary's drafts under Treliving, I would argue more impact players outside of first round have been added under Treliving than Toronto since 2014.

Rasmus Andersson, Adam Fox, Oliver Kylington, Andrew Mangiapane, Dustin Wolf -- those are all players Calgary drafted outside of 1st round. I'm not sure what Toronto has to show for outside of round 1 since 2014 onwards.

Mark Hunter had the same access to the resources Dubas had - Dubas built it up to begin with, and he netted 4 significant players over 18 picks. 2 of which were first rounders which you didn't count so call it 2/16 picks.

 

[Squiffy]

Prediction Contest: Flames Fans will come in this thread saying "I come in peace", and then say something disparaging about this hire.

What is yes?

I'll take "premature report and nothing is announced before next week" for $200

 

[Bomber0104]

I guess I missed the part that a home run is only by trading for someone? But ok.

Muzzin and McCabe additions were what I'd consider home runs. Multiple years of primed players and playing well seems good. McCabe on a 2M contract for 2 more seasons is very nice moving forward.

His trading history is pretty meh.

Durzi and Grundstrom are serviceable NHL players on a playoff team right now.

Muzzin is entering retirement.

Long-term LA won.

 

[LaPlante94]

Who was responsible for keeping the coach, which ultimately forced Gaudreau and Tkachuk to leave?

People wanna make it look like his hands were tied...oh yes, by himself. He made those decisions. He hired Sutter, he kept Sutter, who forced Gaudreau and Tkachuk to leave.

It's all on Treliving no matter how you guys want to twist it. Than he goes and signs a 30 year old Huberdeau for 8 years and much more money than Tkachuk, and sigs an aging Kadri to a terrible contract while still keeping Sutter who is slowly destroying the team stability.

What a shitshow this will be here

I guess you missed the reports that the reason why Trevling left Calgary was because of his relationship with Sutter and because ownership wouldn't let him go. But yeah, blame Trevling for those players hating a coach he himself didn't like. Tkachuk has even said he likes Trevling and wanted to stay in Calgary long term but only got a bridge deal to keep the team together.

Gave more money to the guy who was well over a PPG for how many seasons in a row and coming off a 115 point season over a guy who never was a PPG player until his contract year. How dare he.

Only shitshow is these boards and twitter whining non stop about a report from Dreger about hiring a guy who was a GM in a place no player wants to go to and cheap ownership who doesn't give a damn about the team and still put together a good roster. We were fine losing 1st rounds under Dubas but aren't ok bringing in someone else who made the 2nd round 2 times and the rest 1st round exits.

 

[TopG]

Amazing hire

 

[PromisedLand]

Treliving draft record from 2014 to 2016 included Matthew Tkachuk and Sam Bennett both playing for the Stanley Cup and well as Norris Dman Adam Fox.

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HOLY Mangiapane is a 6th round pick?

 

[3blizzard4]

Prediction Contest: Flames Fans will come in this thread saying "I come in peace", and then say something disparaging about this hire.

 

[notbias]

Watching him closely vs Vegas, he really sucked.

he's always been overrated on this board, and his contract sucks.

It was big guy for small guy so people freaked out.

 

[Nooodles]

So much for Dreger being useless, say useless people.

Some people knew Tre will be the next GM in march...

 

[notbias]

Denis Malgin did absolutely nothing for the Leafs.

Mason Marchment did a lot for the Florida Panthers.

Again, you're having a hard time with very basic truisms and reality.

And why you're even mentioning Mason Marchment is beyond me. You can't help but inadvertently self-dunk on Dubas' pitiful trade record it seems

He sure did.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

"We require, as a team, proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence. That’s how our teams play." - Brad Treliving 2023

 

[LaPlante94]

Markstrom having one good year (basically all his other years were around average) doesn't equal a 6x6 full nmc contract. He's more likely to stay around average/slightly above average based on his career so far vs. Going back to vezina calibre. He had a solid 43 games like 2 years before signing the contract. Basically he's been up and down every year, never know what you're going to get. Not someone you give that contract too especially a goalie.

Should've gave him a 3 year deal at 3.8 mil instead and traded him away after 1 season with their 1st round pick.

 

[SprDaVE]

Durzi and Grundstrom are serviceable NHL players on a playoff team right now.

Muzzin is entering retirement.

Long-term LA won.

That's how it typically works when you trade with futures. Leafs got some very good value from Muzzin and he was very good before he got derailed by a spinal injury. Are Durzi and Grundstrom going to have the same impact as Muzzin had? It seems very doubtful, but they got some good prospects while they rebuilt. I'd say both teams got what they wanted.

You can shit on Dubas for many things and I agree with all of it but the Muzzin trade gave the Leafs a much needed veteran defenseman for awhile.

 

[Leaf Fans]

It's amazing how many blindly follow Dubas. Mitch too. Above the team to some

I don't know any personally, but I suppose there are some.