Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[Stephen]

Kyle Dubas was really good had hiding the fact he’s a snake/douche.

At least Treliving seems like a stand up person, I have a feeling the players/personnel will respect him and we can finally make some major progress.

I kinda wish he had been more authentic about being a fiery competitor, grudge matches and more cutthroat in his time as GM of the Leafs. Wouldn’t have minded that personality at the top and influencing the team on the ice.

Where he lost me is the sort of nice guy Ross Atkins stuff. Option A would have been perfectly fine. Don’t need to combine that with Option B. No one asked you to be a super nice guy.

 

[notbias]

I think the term flexibility gets used too much around here.. and almost in my opinion incorrectly

Like every year the cap space has to go to the grunts you have to fill out the roster because of the salary structure.. there is always limited money to do this.

Flexibility is having a roster with continuity.. lots of players on term co tracts every year but due to how the contracts are timed it allows you make proactive decisions of which good player to can asset manage and which good player you keep.

I dont understand how having some money to use on filling out a roster every year is flexibility.. its just a rotation.. or cycle. It isnt like we can go after that key ufa due to flexibility

They have tons of flexibility over the next 2 years. All 2 players are signed past that.

Next year they have like 14+ million and some ELCs to fill out the roster.

I think that is flexibility.

Lou 2 - Hunter 1 - Dubas Zero.

Dubas should have tanked.

 

[Mess]

I also remember Treliving almost fleeced Toronto with a Brodie for Kadri trade that was mixed by Naz himself.

Correct and then Dubas turned Kadri into Alex Kerfoot instead, and then ran out and signed Brodie as UFA the first chance he had thereafter.

However Morgan Rielly and Chris Tanev were D partners forming an excellent pairing on the 2015-16 Canada World Championship team. ( 2015-2016 - World Championship Gold Medal)

Leafs have been looking for a D partner for Rielly for years and Treliving was the one that acquired Chris Tanev for his Flames in the past.

Lets hope for more of that Treliving fleecing and ability to recognize talent when rebuilding the Leafs defense this summer.

 

[Clark4Ever]

he clearly had pitts in his back pocket months ago. He has connection with beeston already. Pitts going thouugh a deep process and then putting it on hold for dubas and flying him out the very next day shanny fired him is a clear indication that this was all in the works.

Dubas asked for $$ money and more leverage bc if he didnt get it in toronto he got it in pitts

guy is a fkin turd to use the family card and cry like a sissy on stage.

just be a man and say i cant handle the gig and i want to leave

goof

In retrospect, I think this should be fairly obvious to anyone with open eyes.

 

[Stephen]

Correct and then Dubas turned Kadri into Alex Kerfoot instead, and then ran out and signed Brodie as UFA the first chance he had thereafter.

However Morgan Rielly and Chris Tanev were D partners forming an excellent pairing on the 2015-16 Canada World Championship team. ( 2015-2016 - World Championship Gold Medal)

Leafs have been looking for a D partner for Rielly for years and Treliving was the one that acquired Chris Tanev for his Flames in the past.

Lets hope for more of that Treliving fleecing and ability to recognize talent when rebuilding the Leafs defense this summer.

E. Lindholm, Tanev, Andersson, Hanifin, Kylington would all be interesting current Flames that I wouldn’t mind seeing on the Leafs if a Fletcher-Riseborough redux.

 

[Stephen]

In retrospect, I think this should be fairly obvious to anyone with open eyes.

I’m actually wondering if Treliving-Calgary-Shanahan-Toronto and Dubas-Fenway was not a simultaneous divorce, remarriage type situation.

 

[ShaneFalco]

In the end Dubas was like some of our players - entitled, talked about only Toronto but needed top dollar and a higher up position without having earned it, immature and arrogant

 

[justashadowof]

E. Lindholm, Tanev, Andersson, Hanifin, Kylington would all be interesting current Flames that I wouldn’t mind seeing on the Leafs if a Fletcher-Riseborough redux.

Are there any indications as to whether Kylington is ready to resume his hockey career?

 

[Mess]

Asking who had a better starting point, Dubas or Treliving, Treliving does is what I am saying.

Agreed, Treliving has a nice staring point thanks to ex Leaf GMs but not the one your thinking of

Morgan Rielly drafted by GM Brian Burke
William Nylander drafted by Dave Nonis
Mitch Marner drafted by Mark Hunter
Auston Matthews drafted by Lou Lamoriello

Now Trevling can to get to work replacing Dubas inherited players with his own.

How to get rid of Matt Murray ugly $4.67 mil contract, how to get Tavares and his boat anchor $11 mil deal to accept a trade despite his NMC, and break up the core 4 using JT recapture space to resign the 3 Amigos, just a couple of headaches to deal with. Luckily Leafs have 10 current UFAs on the books that would allow BT to walk away from most to build his own team from inherited,

PS. Too bad Treliving has to inherit the overpaid contracts of AM and MM as his starting point to re-sign these players to their next deals unable to correct previous signing mistakes.

 

[andora]

Asking who had a better starting point, Dubas or Treliving, Treliving does is what I am saying.

That is questionable at best

They have tons of flexibility over the next 2 years. All 2 players are signed past that.

Next year they have like 14+ million and some ELCs to fill out the roster.

I think that is flexibility.



Dubas should have tanked.

I guess. We can be flexible and get a whole new team

Are there any indications as to whether Kylington is ready to resume his hockey career?

Yes hes bavk next year.. read it on flames forum

 

[Mess]

E. Lindholm, Tanev, Andersson, Hanifin, Kylington would all be interesting current Flames that I wouldn’t mind seeing on the Leafs if a Fletcher-Riseborough redux.

We have discussed setting up a Redwood forest on defense in the past for our Leafs using the TB model and even the current Vegas model in the SCF as reference.

Look at Brad Treliving's Dcore on the Flames last year. Look at the size and weight of those players..

If that is his vision of planting Redwoods on Leafs defense core going forward then sign me up with as many former Flames he wants to bring in.

 

[notbias]

Agreed, Treliving has a nice staring point thanks to ex Leaf GMs but not the one your thinking of

Morgan Rielly drafted by GM Brian Burke
William Nylander drafted by Dave Nonis
Mitch Marner drafted by Mark Hunter
Auston Matthews drafted by Lou Lamoriello

Now Trevling can to get to work replacing Dubas inherited players with his own.

How to get rid of Matt Murray ugly $4.67 mil contract, how to get Tavares and his boat anchor $11 mil deal to accept a trade despite his NMC, and break up the core 4 using JT recapture space to resign the 3 Amigos, just a couple of headaches to deal with. Luckily Leafs have 10 current UFAs on the books that would allow BT to walk away from most to build his own team from inherited,

PS. Too bad Treliving has to inherit the overpaid contracts of AM and MM as his starting point to re-sign these players to their next deals unable to correct previous signing mistakes.

This hurts to read. Terrible as always.

We have discussed setting up a Redwood forest on defense in the past for our Leafs using the TB model and even the current Vegas model in the SCF as reference.

Look at Brad Treliving's Dcore on the Flames last year. Look at the size and weight of those players..

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If that is his vision of planting Redwoods on Leafs defense core going forward then sign me up with as many former Flames he wants to bring in.

The only really big guys are bottom pairing or pressbox...

 

[Larcos_Unal]

We have discussed setting up a Redwood forest on defense in the past for our Leafs using the TB model and even the current Vegas model in the SCF as reference.

Look at Brad Treliving's Dcore on the Flames last year. Look at the size and weight of those players..

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If that is his vision of planting Redwoods on Leafs defense core going forward then sign me up with as many former Flames he wants to bring in.

Yes please, beefy boys on the back end all day and night...no more collector's lanes to the front of our net.

 

[rocketman588]

he clearly had pitts in his back pocket months ago. He has connection with beeston already. Pitts going thouugh a deep process and then putting it on hold for dubas and flying him out the very next day shanny fired him is a clear indication that this was all in the works.

Dubas asked for $$ money and more leverage bc if he didnt get it in toronto he got it in pitts

guy is a fkin turd to use the family card and cry like a sissy on stage.

just be a man and say i cant handle the gig and i want to leave

goof

Treliving might have been plan B but he's a great fit imo

It was refreshing having a dude who was personable instead of kinda socially awkward in the presser. Not that that matters performance wise but it felt like a normal presser as opposed to the usual extreme stuffyness and awkwardness.

Also won't shy away from the media as opposed to Dubas who quick scheduled his so he wouldn't have to be held accountable

 

[Stephen]

We have discussed setting up a Redwood forest on defense in the past for our Leafs using the TB model and even the current Vegas model in the SCF as reference.

Look at Brad Treliving's Dcore on the Flames last year. Look at the size and weight of those players..

View attachment 714706

If that is his vision of planting Redwoods on Leafs defense core going forward then sign me up with as many former Flames he wants to bring in.

If we can get a big multi tool defenseman like a Werenski on the top pair it dramatically changes the complexion of the blueline.

 

[Mess]

Yes please, beefy boys on the back end all day and night...no more collector's lanes to the front of our net.

Brad Treliving needs to "Build a Wall" around Joseph Woll to keep unwanted players & pucks out, "and make Pittsburgh pay for it".

 

[myleafs]

Scoring always dries up in playoffs for most every team .. it is way playoffs work .. it is depth of scoring across all 4 lines which decides results

sure, depth is needed but you still need your top guys to produce and ours dont or havent when they were needed.

 

[Stephen]

Brad Treliving needs to "Build a Wall" around Joseph Woll to keep unwanted players & pucks out, "and make Pittsburgh pay for it".

I just want to break Pittsburgh now.

 

[myleafs]

Dude I still can't believe you bought the Dubas press conference with him crying and everything.

I like what I saw from Brad and some of things he was saying especially about initiating play and taking it to other teams rather than being passive and that there is no room for flybys especially in the playoffs etc. Time will tell but Im interested to see how this team looks in Oct. and if the boys whoever is still around can play a different type game.

Im surprised nobody has mentioned how nervous Kyle was yesterday at his presser. I have never seen him quite like that. Stiff/awkward and scared though he loosened up a bit as it went along. And for me he still doesnt sound like his mental state is all that much better than it was during his infamous last presser in Toronto.... Saying things like well we had to move anyways so may as well be Pittsburgh. I thought that was a weird thing to say.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

sure, depth is needed but you still need your top guys to produce and ours dont or havent when they were needed.

But depth gets you through a bad matchup series .. we just don't have any .. Kuch has had some bad rounds in his playoff career and Tampa has won .. same with Lafleur .. same with Lemieux .. it happens a ton in playoffs where a team shuts down a player with a high low trap game and other guys need to produce .. we are far too easy a team to shutdown .. basically you shutdown Matty and Willy and we are finished .. JT can't keep up and Mitch has no shot (aka they can't do it themselves)

 

[Ianturnedbull]

I'm not sure what you incorrectly attributing the NYI's playoff outcomes to Lou has to do with what he did and left here. By the time Dubas took over, Nylander's ELC was done, and Matthews/Marner only had one year left. If you're looking for who wasted our star's ELCs, it's Lou.

I've been watching you post stuff about Lou for years now. I wonder why you're still here though. Are you here to defend Dubas or to put Lou down one more time. Are you a Leafs fan still?

 

[Larcos_Unal]

Brad Treliving needs to "Build a Wall" around Joseph Woll to keep unwanted players & pucks out, "and make Pittsburgh pay for it".

 

[Stephen]

I'm not sure what you incorrectly attributing the NYI's playoff outcomes to Lou has to do with what he did and left here. By the time Dubas took over, Nylander's ELC was done, and Matthews/Marner only had one year left. If you're looking for who wasted our star's ELCs, it's Lou.

You think it’s reasonable to go from 30th in 2016 to have used the ELC’s productively by the time Lou left in 2018? Like we should have won a cup?

 

[myleafs]

I think people are forgetting how valuable TJ Brodie has been to this defensive core, he's been one of the best defensive defenseman in the NHL since he signed his deal. One playoff run shouldn't outshine 3 years of high end work

If you let him go you need to replace his production with someone comparable

I agree in that Brodie impressed me right away with his steadyness and just solid play and Gio for the same reasons but both are looking a little tired these days, especially Gio. Brodie with one yr left is ok by me, I think he probably has another year of solid hockey in him but but Gio....not so sure.

 

[Clark4Ever]

I’m actually wondering if Treliving-Calgary-Shanahan-Toronto and Dubas-Fenway was not a simultaneous divorce, remarriage type situation.

As far as Shanahan is concerned, I genuinely think he was negotiating with Dubas in good faith throughout the entire process and got caught off guard at the eleventh hour by Dubas' underhanded tactics.

I am actually relieved the scenario played out the way it did because I believe the organization is in better hands now as a result.