Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[Mess]

Kind of dumb imo. I can understand it for the first round or at least until after the Leafs first pick. Cant see Treliving having much impact on our 5th and 6th picks.

That is pretty par for the course actually that a GM with insider knowledge of Calgary draft lists and rankings, would be limited to direct the Leafs draft.

Its not only about the late round picks. .What if Leafs traded a player for a high pick and then Treliving directed the Leafs to take a player high on Flames draft board etc.,

What I think Treliving will be allowed to do is direct the scouting team into types or players he is looking for without naming names, or say put defenseman at higher emphasis to put more players into the prospect position at that position. He could tell his scouts he is looking to play a big heavy game so find me more players like Knies and less small skilled player for example.

 

[SprDaVE]

Nylander isn't a notch lower on offense. When you look at his progression he's gotten better every year while the other 3 have stagnated.

I meant a notch lower on the importance totem. I'm a huge Nylander fan but Matthews is a much more important player for a few different reasons.

Yep. Makes sense too. Any offseason-season plan is ultimately going to have to flow from getting an extension of some sort in place. Once that's taken care of the rest can be sorted out accordingly

Yeah if talks go sideways with Matthews... this off-season will be something else. But if talks go well, and they should go well, then I think things line up after.

 

[Metroid]

Wait, Keefe lives in Arizona, and Shanny in NYC?
Can we get people that wanna live Toronto?! Lol

 

[SprDaVE]

I want him at the table more so for draft trades rather than the draft itself. Like what if the Wings are on the clock at 9 and they offer you 9th overall+ for Nylander. Sure Trelving can call his scouts and see whether or not they want 9 or if a player they like is on the board but it slows the process down. Hard to negotiate in that 5-6 minute window.

I don't know how they'll go about it but I think you downplay how long a text takes to travel from one device to the other. I'm not sure it'll be hard to communicate things in real time if needed. I'm sure they'll have a plan for those sort of dicussions. I also don't think the Leafs will wait until the draft to make that kind of move under their current structure anyway.

 

[MSZ]

Wait, Keefe lives in Arizona, and Shanny in NYC?
Can we get people that wanna live Toronto?! Lol

Brian Burke lives in Toronto.

 

[Metroid]

Brian Brake lives in Toronto.

Let's do it! (Also assume you mean Burke)

 

[SeaOfBlue]

If he does decide to move one of the core 4, I’m thinking it will be Willy. So….

Who from Calgary do you want to see on the Leafs???

Isn't this the exact thing that people hated Dubas doing with the Soo?

I really liked that he emphasized "check check check in the playoffs".

We are about to get a heavier team me thinks.

Or faster and more energetic. Could go either way.

Checking is somewhat of a broad term. Is it all about laying people out, that is one thing. If it is about forechecking, winning puck battles, etc... Then there are a lot of "non-heavy" guys who do that extremely well. Heck even Kerfoot was good in every aspect of "checking" outside of the actual hitting part.

 

[MSZ]

Let's do it! (Also assume you mean Burke)

Yea auto correction ruined it

 

[Cor]

Put one or two guys at the "draft table" and everyone else in a war room.......communication is not going to be an issue

lmao Shanahan, Keefe and Pridham just sitting around the draft table playing 9-5-2 during rounds 2-4

 

[egd27]

Interesting that he focus’ on Matthews as a priority and there hasn’t been a whisper about Nylander who is in the same boat.

Not exactly the same boat. Nylander's limited NTC allows for much more flexibility post July 1 compared to Matthews' full NMC.

 

[Cor]

hmmm... well. welcome to Toronto, Brad.

Pretty much my thoughts too lmao

Hope all is well Daisy

 

[PromisedLand]

Kind of dumb imo. I can understand it for the first round or at least until after the Leafs first pick. Cant see Treliving having much impact on our 5th and 6th picks.

dubas traded everything away. we got like 3 picks. not the end of the world IMO

 

[Mess]

I really liked that he emphasized "check check check in the playoffs".

We are about to get a heavier team me thinks.

I read that "Defense wins Championships" belief which is great. That is a big philosophical difference in belief from the past GM who built a team on skill and speed and talent regardless of size with a clear focus on offense when it comes to team building.

He praised the skill of the players as highly talented, but more than once he emphasized their willingness to buy into a 2-way and focus on defense, when asked both about the core and coaches performance. That put the core 4 on notice early where he stands and its their play away from the puck that is as important as it is with it. A players willingness to back check and play within a system that focus on it.

Treliving has in the past also put emphasis on his defense core, and that is where I expect him to put focus on here as well . . You need high IQ players and good puck moving and preferable with good size and ability to be reliable defensively.

 

[phillipmike]

I don't know how they'll go about it but I think you downplay how long a text takes to travel from one device to the other. I'm not sure it'll be hard to communicate things in real time if needed. I'm sure they'll have a plan for those sort of dicussions.

Obviously im making a big deal about something that may not happen but it isnt ideal. Its more so what he would be missing out at the draft table. You have your entire front office at the table and if for example Nylander for 9th+ comes up then Trelving can put it out there and get feedback from all his front office as opposed to a text/email/phone call. Once Scout could say "yeah make the deal i love Joe Smith on board" another could say "no. Nylander is worth more than whoever is left" "another could say Joe Smith isnt a top 10 player, we could get him in the 20s" then an AGM could "say, hey i had another offer for Nylander from another team" or "no, we cant trade Nylander" etc.

You get a lot more feedback when you are there and at the table which is important to making a big decision/trade.

I also don't think the Leafs will wait until the draft to make that kind of move under their current structure anyway.

Its not something you can always prepare for. You may not have any previous discussions with a team and they just throw an offer to you at the last minute to see if you will take it.

 

[PromisedLand]

I like how he spoke about the team vs core four. Lets get rid of that core four narrative.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Pretty much my thoughts too lmao

Hope all is well Daisy

just taking it day by day.
will probably stay around these parts until UFA-Day and then leave again

Hope you are good too

 

[Menzinger]

Overall, he spoke well which was nice. Not a ton of shocking news - seems like he'll take (as expected imo) a gradual approach to imprinting his vision in the team. Don't think we'll see too many major shakeup moves right away.

Liked his relationship with Pridham, and his prioritization of Matthews.

Don't blink if Keefe is coaching game 1 of the regular season.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Overall, he spoke well which was nice. Not a ton of shocking news - seems like he'll take (as expected imo) a gradual approach to imprinting his vision in the team. Don't think we'll see too many major shakeup moves right away.

Liked his relationship with Pridham, and his prioritization of Matthews.

Don't blink if Keefe is coaching game 1 of the regular season.

honestly, unless there is someone REALLY good out there, keep keefe until there is a dry spell then fire him i mean the team as it is you know you'll get 100ish points anyway so why fire him if your dream guy isn't there.

[though of Quennville or Boudreau is available, then bye Keefe]

 

[WTFMAN99]

Overall, he spoke well which was nice. Not a ton of shocking news - seems like he'll take (as expected imo) a gradual approach to imprinting his vision in the team. Don't think we'll see too many major shakeup moves right away.

Liked his relationship with Pridham, and his prioritization of Matthews.

Don't blink if Keefe is coaching game 1 of the regular season.

Shanahan did say he wanted someone to be bold in his presser when talking about what kind of GM he would want.

I think boldness is moving one of those core guys if you're reading between the lines but you can't show your hand and you don't want to pull a Burke where you overpromise and under deliver.

Smile, nod and then make one of those big splashes.

Historically, he's very busy around the draft and free agency.

 

[thusk]

Nylander isn't a notch lower on offense. When you look at his progression he's gotten better every year while the other 3 have stagnated.

Im not agree at all

Nylander became a better offensive player but Matthews and marner became a better complete 2 way player..

 

[A1LeafNation]

If Shanahan is the gatekeeper on half the moves, he's accountable for all the moves.

Treliving a glorified yes man.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[Mess]

Not exactly the same boat. Nylander's limited NTC allows for much more flexibility post July 1 compared to Matthews' full NMC.

100%

Matthews is a franchise #1C that Treliving referred to a "one of the very best players in the world" and clearly a key building block for him. But no question the pending MNC in his contract with a year remaining on his deal puts the focus on getting him re-signed now as priority #1. Even mentioned his relationship with Judd Moldaver Auston's agent during the presser and may have even reached out to him. The organization is exposed to loss by the NMC and thus a priority to resolve and protect a valuable asset an immediate focus.

Nylander contract's does not handcuff the GM nor paint him into a corner.. Willy doesn't need a commitment long term by July 1st 2023, and he can be re-signed (or traded) any time from now until July 1st 2024 because of his NTC giving a GM flexibility, control and options. Nylander's actual pressure point for a new contract really is by the trade deadline of next year to get a commitment going forward.

 

[BallardEra]

 

[fahad203]

I think Treliving has a long relationship with him too, he’s kind of the ace in the hole replacement to blunt what you just said. And besides, this is TO, Pitt ain’t no prize right now. One of the worst prospect pools in the league, aged core, not exactly a plum gig imo.

Even with all those, Pitts is a s*** hole to live in
You park your car for 10 mins and your tires are gone , in broad day light
There's nothing good about that city when you leave the rink