Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[Eternal Leaf]

tf

What a bunch of losers if true. Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[Squiffy]

You know what's more depressing? Letting Dubas go for a much worse guy who only screams disaster. His accomplishments in Calgary are utter pathetic. If you think he turned that team into anything but a complete disaster, I would have no words to sympathize with you when the time comes.

Well ok. Leaf chapter is new chapter. I hope for the best.

I won't mince words, I am a Leaf fan. I am eternally optimistic, I have been conditioned as such. I am a highly logical person outside of the Leafs. I hope for the best and I don't apologize for it.

But I am not blind. I have seen many bad Leaf teams, and a few good, in my time. This one is in limbo. It should be the best team I've ever watched, it is regular season, and then the playoffs start. I don't think they are far off. I don't think a fresh look is bad, though I'd have been fine with Dubas too. I just choose to hope. They are so talented as a team and a core, it just can't be that there's not a break through here to be had. I don't know if Bundy does it, but Dubas had 5 years and didn't, lets see.

We knew it wasn’t the new gm’s decision to make when Shanahan let them know they weren’t being moved.

Oh lets get off it, the insiders report Shanny sees them coming back, it's fluff. I believe they will come back actually, but if Bundy newly hired is going to Shanny saying I got this deal I gotta make for Marner.. I think it happens.

That's their only target, I don't think they ever plan to win a Stanley cup. They just don't have it in the ownership to the management to the coaches to the players. Every one of them are just a bunch of nuisance at best. One better than the other.

Bud, I don't know you, no disrespect, but any comment of "they don't want to win the Cup", in the Bell/Rogers era, is silly. Nothing would make more money.

Also makes more sense that Dubas wanted full autonomy and Shanny didn’t want to give that up.

Seems like Dubas was ready for a core move but Shanahan isn’t budging.

IMO we are teetering on the brink of futile mediocrity

Come on here Bert, we haven't seen a sugestion of full autonomy requested from Dubas. That's basically telling Shanny I want your job, get out of my way. That's not a position to take looking for a contract from the guy you are talking to. I'll believe he may have asked toss something at the Board and then hear what Shanny says, but the premise of negotiating your boss out of his position can't be true, its a non-starter.

Although he did get turfed lol.. I am just not taking from these past weeks that Shanny was choke holding Dubas.

Expected, but disappointed. Can't wait to run it back with the core for the millionth time. Maybe we'll get 2 wins in the second round next year.

Too early for the take. Although I think you're right on running it back. Maybe we'll get 12 wins? We're both guessing.

Yep. he obviously wasn't going to hire someone who didn't support that decision.

Again, don't think any decisions are set in stone. Logical outcomes that are easy to guess at yes. Hopefully logically evaluated, but that mostly runs to the same place.

This is the quote I saw from CJ:

“What’s interesting to me is that Brendan Shanahan phoned each of the Leafs’ top players to share the news about Kyle Dubas, and those players came away from those conversations believing that Brendan Shanahan’s intention is to bring the entire core four back.

Unless there is something more detailed I am not seeing a promise here. The intention is to bring them all back but he failed to say the words "if we can afford to" out loud. The qualifier is if they can't meet on the money or the contract term then its not possible. Unless he said bring them all back for whatever they want they have to know there is really no guarantee. He was just trying to keep them from freaking out, the same as with the Keefe did a great job comment.

On July 1:

"What the players' agents said — and how they said it — created “a dramatical shift in my thinking,” as I drove home that night: “As they expressed, they might not want to be signing an extension. And I have to take that very seriously.”

See how easy that was? I won't believe anything until July.

Yes.

 

[yubbers]

I didn't really expect him to say any different regardless of his intentions.

 

[Squiffy]

Am I counting wrong or did Quinn not win 7?

And I haven't checked otherwise, because that was the easy wrong one to me, but is anything else right either?

 

[rocketman588]

I mean Dubas was the one talking about everything being on the table and the possibility of changes in his presser. Shanahan is the one calling the core 4 and telling them they're staying, asking GM candidates if Keefe can stay on. Seems like Shanny is the "run it back" guy is there is one.

The dude also said he wasn't going to take any other jobs then interviewed for the Pittsburgh position the week after

 

[seventieslord]

I once has a 6 point game.. it was at Ted Reeve. Third goal was a wild wrister from the point splitting three guys that I just fired because there was nothing else left. It was great.

I had two hat tricks in adult safe. In both of them I scored on a slapper speeding down the wing on the rush. One from each side, actually. Even though I can't take a slapshot for shit. But those times I did, and I scored. To complete a hat trick.

My wedding, my daughter being born, my first article being published in THN, and those two nights.

 

[TMLegend]

tf

Friedman has absolutely no idea what Treliving is thinking. He's been here less than 24 hours officially. Treliving doesn't even know what he wants to do yet probably.

Treliving isn't gonna come out and say he wants to move one of the core four anyways. That would be giving away leverage in such a scenario.

 

[seventieslord]

Am I counting wrong or did Quinn not win 7?

And I haven't checked otherwise, because that was the easy wrong one to me, but is anything else right either?

Quinn won 7 as coach, but for the first two and the last one he wasn't the GM.

 

[Squiffy]

I had two hat tricks in adult safe. In both of them I scored on a slapper speeding down the wing on the rush. One from each side, actually. Even though I can't take a slapshot for shit. But those times I did, and I scored. To complete a hat trick.

My wedding, my daughter being born, my first article being published in THN, and those two nights.

4 TD's in one game my friend. Our new Gm has us.

Quinn won 7 as coach, but for the first two and the last one he wasn't the GM.

Oh lord lol.. k, ty.

 

[Superstar]

Friedman has absolutely no idea what Treliving is thinking. He's been here less than 24 hours officially. Treliving doesn't even know what he wants to do yet probably.

Treliving isn't gonna come out and say he wants to move one of the core four anyways. That would be giving away leverage in such a scenario.

When you start off with "I think" then anything goes. Gotta appear like an insider one way or another.

 

[Gabriel426]

Today I identify as an insider, Transider is the proper term, I think Treliving will or will not trade a core player for another core player, he will or will not sign UFAs, he will or will not move up in the draft.

 

[leafsfan5]

tf

we are so mediocre

The worst part is these guys don’t even sound like they want to entertain offers. Like at least make the core available and see what you can get. I understand not wanting to get destroyed in a trade, what I don’t get is not seriously exploring to see if there’s fair value somewhere

 

[keonsbitterness]

It's now June. He has about five weeks to impress me.

No pressure.

 

[myleafs]

Sooooooooo.... they're really about to run it back with the same core and coach? f***ing yikes.

That would be a serious lunch bag letdown if it happens like that

 

[myleafs]

One of the great things Leaf Fans should be happy about with Treliving is that he is great with the Media. The media likes him. He will have a beer with them. Golf. He will be friends with them. Talk to them. This is great news for the Leafs. Having a media that is on your side will make things so much more relaxed and enjoyable for the Core Four and the rest of the players will be happy playing in Toronto.

Treliving and Shanahan have made it clear they want to keep the Core Four and the goal is for them to be happy and wanting to be a Leaf and tweak the D a bit, but basically run it back.

These are the changes that are needed.

Have I missed something? When and how did they make this clear exactly?

 

[thewave]

I didn't really expect him to say any different regardless of his intentions.

Never really heard a GM say it wasn't working out and that they were looking to trade a big name player. It would just devalue them so no real point.

It's more of a wait and see thing.

 

[myleafs]

Friedman has absolutely no idea what Treliving is thinking. He's been here less than 24 hours officially. Treliving doesn't even know what he wants to do yet probably.

Treliving isn't gonna come out and say he wants to move one of the core four anyways. That would be giving away leverage in such a scenario.

Yea but some people he talked to said they were pretty sure they knew what Treliving was thinking and what all the inner dealings regarding Shanny were so...

He uses that some people line a lot.

Not saying all the stuff he is saying wont happen but until I hear it or see it from the horses mouth.......

 

[hockeywiz542]

Ward: I really like the Brad Treliving hire for the Toronto Maple Leafs - TSN.ca

Aaron Ward joins Melnick in the Afternoon to go around the NHL for the Brad Treliving hire, and the Cup Final.

 

[leafs in five]

This should make the Dubists happy, the new guy was mourned too

“the staffers at the Saddledome, some of whom were gutted on the day his exit was announced.”

‘A relentless worker’: Treliving heads to Toronto with stellar reputation

Brad Treliving has been hired by the Toronto Maple Leafs as general manager, the same role he held for the past nine seasons in Calgary.

calgarysun.com

spin doctors at the Calgary Sun shilling for Treliving

 

[aingefan]

Obviously it’s a wait and see kinda situation, but I recall the MT situation being dealt with pretty swiftly and it being pretty exciting at least.
I’m leery of big deals shooting past 35 tho.

 

[Arzak]

Like, it’s not McNamara under Ballard. The team is very good, playoff success so far no, but there is a wide open window here still. Hope for the best. It’s a new day, let’s see what it brings, there’s really nothing about bringing in an experienced GM to a good team that automatically spells disaster. I mean it could happen and you quote me 4 years from now dunking on me, but a fatalistic predetermined outcome is just.. depressing.

You mean from now until July 1st ?

 

[Warden of the North]

tf

He doesn't want to, sure, but if they say they won't re-sign he will. He learned his lesson with Gaudreau.

 

[hullsy47]

Shanny gonna get fired before this guy does

Guaranteed. This guy talked to MSLE .
He's gonna be president in 2 years when all the moves dubas and shanny approved walk away
But I'd let this guy do a rebuild

 

[Albz]

Good he wants to keep marner, he's our best player.

What time Is the presser

 

[hullsy47]

Friedman has absolutely no idea what Treliving is thinking. He's been here less than 24 hours officially. Treliving doesn't even know what he wants to do yet probably.

Treliving isn't gonna come out and say he wants to move one of the core four anyways. That would be giving away leverage in such a scenario.

Is it just me or if extending the core 4 cripple u with about 35 million long term on 3 guys .
Almost 50 if u count tavaras

I think your in the Same boat .if these guys Wanna stay they can each shave a million off per anum