Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

Lightsol

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All you have to do is turn your television set on to watch the Vegas Golden Knights and Florida Panthers play to see what the Maple Leafs are lacking. To see how the roster is unsuited for playoff success. To see how the teams toughest on the boards, best on the cycle, with bodies in front of both goals and sharp goaltending leads to success in the post-season.
The second the Leafs try to build a heavier team, is the second the NHL plays with the rules to emphasize speed and skill in the playoffs. You watch.
 

BertCorbeau

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I think we have to remember that the key is Matthews extension. I dont think Tre wants to rock the boat early on with Burkie type quotes of trading players and firing the coach. He has to play it smart and give bullshyt non definitive answers right now. WE NEED Matthews to sign. Get him signed first then you can make ur moves

This is a valid point .. but unfortunately it means a wasted opportunity around the draft and up tp the UFA period.
 

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Sooooooooo.... they're really about to run it back with the same core and coach? f***ing yikes.
Oh let’s see. I don’t think so myself. Keefe has to go, just has to. The core.. guessing not changing yet. Tons of room to fiddle on the depth, it will be interesting.
 
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It's crazy to me that Keefe might be back, even if it's with a short leash. The regular season absolutely doesn't matter. We are going to make the playoffs and be one of the best teams in the league doing it. Keefe was so thoroughly out coached in the playoffs, it was disgusting. If I have to see his little knobby headed, red faced, head tilted glare one more time I am going to scream.
 

Squiffy

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Welcome to the era of complete incompetence. We are here to qualify for the playoffs. If we can do that, that's enough for the money makers.
Like, it’s not McNamara under Ballard. The team is very good, playoff success so far no, but there is a wide open window here still. Hope for the best. It’s a new day, let’s see what it brings, there’s really nothing about bringing in an experienced GM to a good team that automatically spells disaster. I mean it could happen and you quote me 4 years from now dunking on me, but a fatalistic predetermined outcome is just.. depressing.
 

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I don’t know how you get too excited about him either way.

Hard to be hopeful that he’s going to pull magical moves out of thin air, but no good reason to be doom and gloom either.

Looks like we’ll have a couple of more years to kick at the can with this core. It’s a bit depressing at the moment, sure, but I mean there’s hope there, the Florida series was closer than the final paper score showed. Nothing will convince me that when it comes to playoff overtimes, it’s not just pretty much a coin flip. They didn’t go our way.
 

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Like, it’s not McNamara under Ballard. The team is very good, playoff success so far no, but there is a wide open window here still. Hope for the best. It’s a new day, let’s see what it brings, there’s really nothing about bringing in an experienced GM to a good team that automatically spells disaster. I mean it could happen and you quote me 4 years from now dunking on me, but a fatalistic predetermined outcome is just.. depressing.
You know what's more depressing? Letting Dubas go for a much worse guy who only screams disaster. His accomplishments in Calgary are utter pathetic. If you think he turned that team into anything but a complete disaster, I would have no words to sympathize with you when the time comes.
 

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Sooooooooo.... they're really about to run it back with the same core and coach? f***ing yikes.
I’m just going to sit back and watch, give Treliving the chance to do his thing.

If I had friendly advice for him it would be remember what the core did for the last GM.
Good luck and watch out for the rope you give them.
 

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Why would that be enough?
That's their only target, I don't think they ever plan to win a Stanley cup. They just don't have it in the ownership to the management to the coaches to the players. Every one of them are just a bunch of nuisance at best. One better than the other.
 

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We knew it wasn’t the new gm’s decision to make when Shanahan let them know they weren’t being moved.

Also makes more sense that Dubas wanted full autonomy and Shanny didn’t want to give that up.

Seems like Dubas was ready for a core move but Shanahan isn’t budging.

IMO we are teetering on the brink of futile mediocrity
 

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Everyone is talking about the core 4, but aside from Reilly the rest of the team showed little jam in the playoffs.
Last summer when Calgary got Hubredeau and Weegar for Tkachuk, then signed Kadri, Treliving was deemed a genius. He'll have top notch help here. Whatever, let's hope they get it right...
 

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One of the great things Leaf Fans should be happy about with Treliving is that he is great with the Media. The media likes him. He will have a beer with them. Golf. He will be friends with them. Talk to them. This is great news for the Leafs. Having a media that is on your side will make things so much more relaxed and enjoyable for the Core Four and the rest of the players will be happy playing in Toronto.

Treliving and Shanahan have made it clear they want to keep the Core Four and the goal is for them to be happy and wanting to be a Leaf and tweak the D a bit, but basically run it back.

These are the changes that are needed.
 

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We knew it wasn’t the new gm’s decision to make when Shanahan let them know they weren’t being moved.

This is the quote I saw from CJ:

“What’s interesting to me is that Brendan Shanahan phoned each of the Leafs’ top players to share the news about Kyle Dubas, and those players came away from those conversations believing that Brendan Shanahan’s intention is to bring the entire core four back.

Unless there is something more detailed I am not seeing a promise here. The intention is to bring them all back but he failed to say the words "if we can afford to" out loud. The qualifier is if they can't meet on the money or the contract term then its not possible. Unless he said bring them all back for whatever they want they have to know there is really no guarantee. He was just trying to keep them from freaking out, the same as with the Keefe did a great job comment.

On July 1:

"What the players' agents said — and how they said it — created “a dramatical shift in my thinking,” as I drove home that night: “As they expressed, they might not want to be signing an extension. And I have to take that very seriously.”

See how easy that was? I won't believe anything until July.
 

Martin Skoula

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This is the quote I saw from CJ:

“What’s interesting to me is that Brendan Shanahan phoned each of the Leafs’ top players to share the news about Kyle Dubas, and those players came away from those conversations believing that Brendan Shanahan’s intention is to bring the entire core four back.

Unless there is something more detailed I am not seeing a promise here. The intention is to bring them all back but he failed to say the words "if we can afford to" out loud. The qualifier is if they can't meet on the money or the contract term then its not possible. Unless he said bring them all back for whatever they want they have to know there is really no guarantee. He was just trying to keep them from freaking out, the same as with the Keefe did a great job comment.

On July 1:

"What the players' agents said — and how they said it — created “a dramatical shift in my thinking,” as I drove home that night: “As they expressed, they might not want to be signing an extension. And I have to take that very seriously.”

See how easy that was? I won't believe anything until July.

Or, check this out: say nothing. Let them freak out, they should be freaking out and worry about being traded after 7 years of failure.

“We’ll evaluate where to go from here, nothing is off the table to improve the team” is a perfectly fine neutral position to take. It’s a business, everyone understands this. Except Shanny apparently, he needs to babysit and manage a bunch of grown men (and Marner)’s emotions to make sure they’re not feeling uncomfortable right now.

And why should they feel uncomfortable? Things are great, MLSE is still profitable. That’s what matters at the end of the day.
 

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