Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[Deebo]

At least we already know he doesn't tolerate ownership interference.

What about president interference?

 

[hullsy47]

I think Trev get promoted to president in no more than 2 years
Let's see who the assistant gms are
I think the board let shanny pick his successor

 

[Gallagbi]

Looks like the Lou-Dubas cone of silence will be coming to an end. The legacy media guys certainly seem eager to be chummy with Treliving

I thought Dubas was a GM who had the media wrapped around his finger

The problem is the depth has been softer than the core...Kerfoot, Jarnkrok, Kampf, Engvall, Mete, Holl, Brodie, Malgin, Mikheyev, Galchenyuk, Vesey, Blackwell, Kase. It's just been a revolving door of wannabe top 6'ers on our bottom 2 lines. That's where we need the meat and potatoes.

The Acciari, ROR, ZAR, Simmonds, Gio's of the world. Id say Jarn, Holl, Brodie, Mik, Kase and even Kampf all filled difficult minutes, they just didnt face punch in the process

As for Treliving himself, its an expected yet underwhelming pick. Funny how the vibe has gone from must change to expecting a lot of similarities from last year in core and coaching. Either way, im interested to see how he does

 

[Martin Skoula]

Will never understand how a city not known for pizza at all is the name choice for a pizza place.

Adding a city name before a product makes it exciting without changing anything about the product. You have no idea what a Mogadishu Hot Dog is but you do know it’s more exciting than a regular hot dog.

Yes and that’s the risk with bridging players. But IMO 9/10 bridging is the right play. Convince the player to take a little bit less to help put players around them. There’s always a chance they want out, but most of the time they’ll sign.

That’s why people saying Tkachuk is different makes me laugh. He still f***ed over Calgary and demanded out. IMO that’s a thousand times worse than what the Leafs guys did. Are we also forgetting Florida was so mediocre the entire year and got in cause Pittsburgh shit the bed. Good on Florida for making the most of the opportunity.

The problem with bridging is that unless you use the money saved from the bridge on guys with less than 3 years of term, you’re screwed when the bridge runs out. Pushing for a bridge so you have room to sign a 30 year old to a 5+ year NMC deal is objectively stupid unless you’re precisely one 30 year old UFA away from a cup run.

 

[Menzinger]

I mean wouldnt any gm on their first day say they need time to assess things, makes sense no? I dont see him giving up too much information, at least not as much detail as we all want.

I think it's fair to say many would likely keep their cards close to their chest. But the fact is July 1at comes closer with each passing moment. If there's going to be a more radical offseason there's likely going to be need signs of it sooner than later. Otherwise the default is "wait and see/status quo" when it comes to the roster/coaches

 

[WTFMAN99]

Matthews is a unicorn so hard to play hardball with him, that's what I would say.

Marner contract was brutal, I was expecting 7 years at 9 million, 9.5 tops.

Nylander was the best value for sure. TBH I don't even remember what I thought at the time about the dollars/term, I just thought the promise to never trade him as long as Dubas was the GM was a completely insane rookie move.

I think I was comparing it to Ehlers and Pasta at the time and thought out of the 3, his had the least value but he was probably the 2nd best and had the 2nd best contract.

Could have done better, could have done worse...but we're talking maybe 500k off.

The other 2 were wayyyyyy off.

 

[thusk]

Its more of whats your number and term. Here is our best offers. We need a commitment before NMC or we are trading.

If they want to hold all the cards even after being treated phenomenally they can get the hell out. Nobody else in the league got pampered and greased like them.

You know than Matthews cant sign any extension until his last contract season start, so until july 1st, also until his NMC kick-in?

 

[Daisy Jane]

from what i heard - a lot of the stuff in Calgary was forced because the players he had to trade didnt want to be in Canada so whatever.

my issue with this is what my issue was with Dubas whatever years ago now - did you even interview other people? does he have different ways of thinking (because everyone having the same thought process is not good). like. the ONLY named that was mentioned was Treliving, so like.. ... i don't know.

whatever. just... do well.

 

[Rude Dog]

I wondered how much of the playoff losses fell on Keefe? Line matching and trying to win 2-1 leaves you open to a bad call, bounce or save. Also sending a message to your players to stick up for each other. I don't mind Keefe, but they needed to make a change here.

 

[Stephen]

Lou made some really bad moves (Marleau, Zaitsev contracts) but I agree it would be a mistake to underestimate his impact on the culture of this organization.

This team was an absolute disaster on every level prior to his arrival and, while he was not alone in helping build it back up (Leiweke deserves big credit too), he was certainly part of it.

He's also done something similar with the Isles, a franchise once comically run as Garth Snow's personal fiefdom, even though -- again -- the actual GM part of the job has been lacklustre.

(i.e., he's probably a better President than GM at this stage of his career).

Neither here nor there, but if you’re just interested in poking around Snow’s GM history, he did some sneaky good work too.

 

[Menzinger]

I thought Dubas was a GM who had the media wrapped around his finger

I mean that's certainly the perception some have as of late. But imo fact is there were early any major leaks over the last few years ahead of team moves, ect. Stuff like the ROR or Muzzin trades came out of nowhere. And Dubas was fairly rare to give any type of sit-down interview

 

[saltming]

Sutter was by all reports an ownership hire and Treliving didn't want him

Thank the fishes

 

[thewave]

You know than Matthews cant sign any extension until his last contract season start, so until july 1st, also until his NMC kick-in?

He would have to sign in advance with the paperwork being filed on the 1st.

 

[saltming]

he wanted Sutter gone actually...board overruled him... they parted ways only after all players said the same thing and were like hey... get rid of him.

That is good to know.

 

[Stephen]

All indications were that he was the Canadian GM who called Dubas out for screwing up the RFA market after the Matthews contract last time. Curious how he handles Matthews upcoming UFA situation. I’m in the camp of trade over overpay

I’m guessing Treliving’s opinions on contracts would be impacted by who his employers are and what players he’s dealing with.

 

[myleafs]

I tend to give players the benefit of the doubt that they don't just completely forget how to play hockey. It's a 10.5m deal that's obviously too much, a Dubas special as it were, but yeah Huberdeau should rebound to be a serviceable star player instead of the worst contract in the league. That said, if a player needs a specific style of coach to succeed, then that's a big negative to their value. You gotta be able to do it all to be worth those kind of bucks, and again that's somewhat on Treliving. Hoping he learns from that mistake.

But it wasnt just Huberdeau who had a problem with Sutter right? If im not mistaken I thought there were more than a few players during the exit interviews who wanted out if Sutter stayed and why Sutter got fired?

 

[Leaf Rocket]

I think it's fair to say many would likely keep their cards close to their chest. But the fact is July 1at comes closer with each passing moment. If there's going to be a more radical offseason there's likely going to be need signs of it sooner than later. Otherwise the default is "wait and see/status quo" when it comes to the roster/coaches

Honestly, I think there was probably a "soft" agreement in place and they have likely started the process already, time is of the essence. The one advantage as someone pointed out, Treliving knows how to make trades and knows who is available ahead of others so here's hoping he has a plan already.

 

[AvroArrow]

from what i heard - a lot of the stuff in Calgary was forced because the players he had to trade didnt want to be in Canada so whatever.

my issue with this is what my issue was with Dubas whatever years ago now - did you even interview other people? does he have different ways of thinking (because everyone having the same thought process is not good). like. the ONLY named that was mentioned was Treliving, so like.. ... i don't know.

whatever. just... do well.

Adam Fox made it very clear he would only play for the Rangers and nobody else, and he still got a huge haul for him. Lindholm + Hanifin for Hamilton + Fox, when Fox demanded a trade after being drafted isn't a bad trade.

Tkachuk from what I read, like other players did not want to play for Sutter and money was a concern for him. That's why he was traded to Florida and given a huge deal.

Gaudreau also walked because of Sutter.

It seems like all of his "blunders" were actually ownership being adamant about keeping Sutter.

 

[Da Mash]

Hard hire to do and the pickings were slim.
The good GM’s are not moving because it’s Toronto and really….who wants to work here with the constant bickering and fabrication stories always spewed by the media?

Let’s hope he does his job and drafts well for us

And IMHO all our stars we resign…They want to be here

 

[egd27]

It's the same as the "results matter" crowd not caring about results now.

What is that supposed to mean? Don't you think results matter?

 

[Martin Skoula]

Adam Fox made it very clear he would only play for the Rangers and nobody else, and he still got a huge haul for him. Lindholm + Hanifin for Hamilton + Fox, when Fox demanded a trade after being drafted isn't a bad trade.

Tkachuk from what I read, like other players did not want to play for Sutter and money was a concern for him. That's why he was traded to Florida and given a huge deal.

Gaudreau also walked because of Sutter.

It seems like all of his "blunders" were actually ownership being adamant about keeping Sutter.

Thank god he’s finally on a team where ownership would NEVER meddle or force him to keep a coach over financial concerns. We’re just incredibly lucky we found the one guy who sees the same value in Keefe that Shanny and MLSE does.

 

[justashadowof]

I welcome a GM who values defensemen as much as forwards.

 

[Wendel17]

Did he happen to garner this respect in the handshake line?

 

[yubbers]

Hard hire to do and the pickings were slim.
The good GM’s are not moving because it’s Toronto and really….who wants to work here with the constant bickering and fabrication stories always spewed by the media?

Let’s hope he does his job and drafts well for us

And IMHO all our stars we resign…They want to be here

Matthews, you keep if he's OK with 13x5. He won't be though. I'm predicting he's gonna ask for 14.5. I aid Matthews was gonna walk the minute they didn't give him the C over that stupid summer story. I predict this gets real ugly sadly

Marner I shop

WIlly is gonna ask for 10+ GUARANTEED so move him now while his value is high.

The damage is done with this core. They won't learn good habits together anymore imho. You need to split them up like children. LOL

 

[Stephen]

"data-curious"

It’s remarkable that even though everyone in the NHL is so dumb the Stanley Cup still gets awarded every season to… someone.