Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[WillTheThrill]

13 months ago, Shanahan wasn't ready to extend his GM.

Remarkably, he's still been caught with his pants down regarding his GM position. What was he doing the last year?

It took him 9 days to get Treliving. This wasn't an exhaustive, comprehensive, and complete GM search leading to the Leafs landing the best candidate available - this was a snatch & grab panic move after being caught offguard.

An organization, and president, making it up as they go

Shanny had his guy in mind the moment Dubas said he wasn't all in

 

[rumman]

One thing about trades, I do recall immense praise for Treliving last off season on how well he did, given the horrible cards he was dealt. As we sit here today, it looks different, but at the time, the hockey world was very impressed with his moves. And I do wonder what would have happened in Calgary last year had ownership let him can Sutter like he wanted to, the team had obvious internal issues.

Imo Sutter’s a great coach……..daycare worker not so much……..

 

[WTFMAN99]

What’s so special about how the US is governed or has been governed? They have an 80 year old senile president, and before they had Donald Trump lol.

Anyway, every big city in North America is the same. What is so special about Boston? Or NYC? Or Chicago? Noisy, unfriendly, gridlocked, cold in winter. I still say that I enjoy living in Toronto overall.

I haven't been to NYC, Boston or Chicago yet but I know in Chicago you're not supposed to go to the south side.

I haven't been a big Toronto guy in my life but it still seems like they've lost a lot of personality around the city, it's all condos and shoppers drug marts it feels like.

I expect that a lot of the problems remain the same across the large cities though, you're right.

 

[justashadowof]

That host is super annoying with those animated semi-snarky reactions as others are speaking.

 

[rumman]

Should we expect the announcement of Keefe's departure at the same time as they announce the GM hiring?

That would be the decent thing to do, give Keefe a chance to seek employment………

 

[Maple Leaf]

I'd rather have DUbas

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Pretty insane we fired him and hired another GM and he still hasn't made up his mind on whether he wants to work this year or not...

Looks like we probably made the correct decision

Yea forgot the only 2 options were Dubas or Treliving, glad we can deem it the correct decision before he's even hired.

 

[Maple Leaf]

4th GM in 10 years for Shanahan.

does hsnanahan have any management experience?

 

[ACC1224]

That would be the decent thing to do, give Keefe a chance to seek employment………

He's always got a job as long as Dubas is breathing.

 

[Twine Tickler]

One thing about trades, I do recall immense praise for Treliving last off season on how well he did, given the horrible cards he was dealt. As we sit here today, it looks different, but at the time, the hockey world was very impressed with his moves. And I do wonder what would have happened in Calgary last year had ownership let him can Sutter like he wanted to, the team had obvious internal issues.

This is so true.

I genuinely hate this about HFboards in general. We are afforded the ability to apply hindsight to our judgements, where GM's/Coaches/Players are making these decisions in real time. If you can stand behind the decisions in real time, you should not be critical of the GM/Coach/Player if the outcome does not work out in your favor.

Brad was rightfully applauded for his work on the Tkachuk deal, as he was dealt a terrible hand with his trade request. The amount of people pulling out the hindsight gun on this one is pathetic IMO. The overwhelming consensus last year when the deal was made is that Brad did very well given the set of circumstances he faced.

Sometimes deals jus don't work out. It just is what it is.

And lets not pretend like Calgary was some shit team last season. They had historically bad goaltending, and the Daryl Sutter experiment was clearly running out of steam. I would not be surprised if they return to some level of competitiveness as early as next season.

I am not trying to dissolve Brad of any blame in Calgary, but he wasn't exactly given a full deck of cards to work with. Ownership is a complete nightmare, and he has been fighting an uphill battle trying to convince guys to become or stay on as Flames his entire tenure. I just don't think either of those things will be the case in Toronto TBH

 

[Warden of the North]

Should we expect the announcement of Keefe's departure at the same time as they announce the GM hiring?

That's my guess.

Keefe deserves a chance to seek employment elsewhere, if nothing else.

 

[rumman]

He's always got a job as long as Dubas is breathing.

Roger that…..

 

[justashadowof]

I haven't been to NYC, Boston or Chicago yet but I know in Chicago you're not supposed to go to the south side.

I haven't been a big Toronto guy in my life but it still seems like they've lost a lot of personality around the city, it's all condos and shoppers drug marts it feels like.

I expect that a lot of the problems remain the same across the large cities though, you're right.

I know we're getting on a tangent here but my biggest gripe about Toronto is the terrible architecture. They almost never build high quality built-to-last structures any longer. And where has the brick and stone gone? It's all concrete forms, glass and aluminum facia. It's mediocre looking now and it will age terribly.

 

[SprDaVE]

That's my guess.

Keefe deserves a chance to seek employment elsewhere, if nothing else.

There might be a small chance Keefe sticks around. But yeah, I'd expect that to be the first change at some point in the next week.

Maybe the Leafs can trade Keefe for Sullivan?

 

[justashadowof]

Treliving literally went from being considered the winner of the Summer of 2022 to being canned to being the 18th GM in Maple Leafs' history. That's quite the ride.

 

[WTFMAN99]

There might be a small chance Keefe sticks around. But yeah, I'd expect that to be the first change at some point in the next week.

Maybe the Leafs can trade Keefe for Sullivan?

That might be something that was spoken about in detail or is being spoken about prior to a press conference.

"Do you want Keefe or your own coach?"

 

[GoonieFace]

I am sorry man. I just completely disagree. I am sure there are plenty of people that would love to have the roster/cap construction that we presently have.

The roster Brad just left, to the one he is inheriting is truly night and day. It's really not even remotely close

Left him to renegotiate the 3 big contracts, all which were overpayments to begin with, and with NMC on Matthews and Marner kicking in.

The current d is average at best. Reilly and McCabe are starters. Brodie and Gio look like senior citizens. Schenn is a UFA, Liligren looks meh.

Has to get rid of Murray, yeah he left a gem

 

[justashadowof]

My guess is that Keefe and his staff are still around to help the new GM (and his hires) to get up to speed on what the team has in the dressing room not just paper. All of them will be free to move on but while they're still employees of MLSE they owe the new management as much as intel as they can share.

 

[Menzinger]

He has an easy first move ... get a new coach.

If he doesn't change the coach either he can't or he's just looking for a handy excuse if things don't go well.

This is an easy pass-fail test.

Folks should pay attention to the language he uses in the opening press conference.

If he's using phrases/terms like "need time to assess things" it almost certainly will imply there's no big changes happening in the offseason - including maybe the coaching staff here too. MLSE may not want to pay Keefe not to coach for them so they ride out his current contract.

If he uses much bolder language about "making moves/shakeups to the organization" we may see some more impactful things occur.

Personally I suspect he's going to take the more cautious approach that will emphasize continuity from last season - which seems to be what Shanny was looking for.

We'll see one way or the other soon

 

[Sypher04]

There might be a small chance Keefe sticks around. But yeah, I'd expect that to be the first change at some point in the next week.

Maybe the Leafs can trade Keefe for Sullivan?

Yes please. I’ve always liked Sullivan, but I actually think it works for both sides. The penguins need a new voice too imo. And a bunch of personnel changes. No small job there either

 

[Gary Nylund]

Honestly I don't get it. Didn't get it then, don't now. Isn't this what everyone hopes for? The Band huddles up and jointly decides, we're taking less to get this done?

I realize that the response here is honing in on Tavres at 11m, but that's a UFA contract for you, in the context of the point he's trying to make it's true.

In the context of it wasn't yet time to sign 11m UFA, sure, granted. But that's not the point he's driving at with these comments.

I would never expect players to take discounts. Very few do, if they do, that's great but counting on is it dumb and publicly announcing that this is the type of players you need (as if there's a realistic expectation of it happening) seems naive and made him look foolish in the end.

 

[Warden of the North]

My guess is that Keefe and his staff are still around to help the new GM (and his hires) to get up to speed on what the team has in the dressing room not just paper. All of them will be free to move on but while they're still employees of MLSE they owe the new management as much as intel as they can share.

That's not how hockey works. It's poor business practice as well to keep people from seeking new employment when there is the most opportunity available.

The organization has professional scouts for these things too.

 

[thewave]

One of the tweets above said that "the process is about over for Brendan Shanahan and the Toronto Maple Leafs". Sounds like LarryT doesn't like that Rogers / Bell's guy Dubas was about to lose him a lot of money because of all the BS. He brought his own guy who is obviously a family friend and will essentially bypass Shanahan.

Smart move. Shanny got neutered.

 

[Leaffan1991]

I like it, probably the best option out there that was available. I wasn't a big fan of Dubas, not that he's done a bad job just didn't agree on his philosophy on being top heavy.
Treveiling isn't afraid to make big moves and his teams are usually strong on the backend.
We will see how he handles the core 4 situation, I think he can make a decent trade if needed for one of them.

 

[ryno23]

People need to stop with the Tkachuk trade. None of this would even matter if Pit didn't poop on the bed during the last 3 games of the season. FLA would have missed the playoffs and none of this Tkachuk narrative would have been around. CGY would have won the trade as they got 2 for 1 in the deal.

People forget the Flames actually had more points this year than the Panthers.

Imagine Marner went to Dubas and said I want out and Dubas got Kyle Connor and Josh Morrisey back. that would be a great return on a guy who doesn't want to be here. Tree was in the same spot he had a player not wanting to play there and brought in 2 quality players.

Go back and look at his trades history and he has won way more than lost. His RFA signings have been good. Rasums Anderson at 4.6 is great back at the age of 22. Some of his UFA signing are suspect but July 1st signings are always tricky.


There are worse candidates but Calgary teams are always competitive and they didn't really have any superstars just hardworking team.