Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[Donnie740]

Can never doubt the courage of his convictions. He tried. Everyone post-Ballard has tried seriously, largely. Dubas tried. None of them maliciously pooched it.

I don’t doubt for a second that Dubas tried his hardest and that he truly believed a championship team could be filled with finesse players regardless of how soft, slow and undersized they are.

But he was hopelessly misguided and the embarrassing playoff debacles over the past five years are evidence of that.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Same people pissed at this hire would’ve loved Tulsky who they only know as a mystery box Carolina’s Assistant GM. They probably have no idea that before Treliving built a perennial contender in Calgary, he was the AGM for the Coyotes when they went to the conference finals.

The man has done a good job working with teams with little resources and clout.

A perennial contender is missing the playoffs every other year and not being anywhere close to a favourite in most of the years he did make the playoffs? His teams did perform to expectations, but those expectations were far from "contender status". He built bubble teams that played like bubble teams. And it is not like he was trying to lose in any of those years either...

I probably already know the answer, but what would you say if Dubas did that? Rotated between missing the playoffs altogether and losing in the first round other than a couple of one round victories. That is all he did in 9 years at the helm. And yet I would be shocked if you would have let Dubas get through 1/3 of Treliving's tenure with Calgary before calling for his head.

I hope Treliving does better here than he did in Calgary, because out of everyone who fits Shanahan's strict and limiting criteria, he is probably the best. There is some good there, and if he effectively doesn't try to be Burke 2.0 by trying to fix things through UFA and chasing truculence, then maybe we can accomplish something with him. If he does try to be Burke 2.0, then we are probably screwed even before any of our good players are out of the door.

Of course, assuming he plans on keeping the Core 4, one needs to hope he doesn't push them out of the door too. It is up in the air now that a different GM is negotiating the contracts, but historically, those guys should be willing to take more team-friendly deals.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Ehhh seems ok, not over the moon with this. Kind of a run of the mill guy, not sure why he's been the #1 guy since this whole thing started.

Most willing to play ball with Shanahan without being a total disaster?

I think we are really underestimating the mess he made with Dubas and how much that turned people off from the job, especially those with other options. Add in a very specific set of criteria that is not very attractive to most experienced GM's, while not considering inexperienced GM's, and you are left with a very short list of candidates where Treliving is probably the #1 guy.

 

[yubbers]

Everyone wanted their pound of flesh with Dubas gone. And now bitching about the choice of replacement [eye roll].

Dubas walked away. LOL.

Lol.

Back to the clown show it is I guess.

You really need to raise your expectations my guy.

 

[Leafblooded]

Oh god no. Please god. No. God. Why? Why god? Why????

 

[Chief Leaf]

Oh god no. Please god. No. God. Why? Why god? Why????

we need the "Tree Living" so our Leafs don't fall. haha

 

[Wendel17]

We're the richest and most storied team in hockey, and this is the best we can do? Good job Shanahan, good job. Good job hiring Dubas in the first place and then firing him at the worst possible time, and then tieing your hands so badly that you get stuck with GM leftovers. Just brilliant. How do we constantly get stuck with the worst of the worst management? Oh well. Shut the lights off. It's over. This franchise is never winning anything.

 

[Puckstuff]

I think the Tkachuck blunder by Treliving is a good thing. He knows not to do that again. He’s due for a good trade.

Last offseason everyone loved the Calgary moves. Although turning Tkachuck and Gaudreau into Kadri, Huberdeau and Weegar didn’t work out, it was a pretty good move at the time considering it’s Calgary and they have a harder time retaining free agents then Toronto.

 

[Amadeus]

I think the Tkachuck blunder by Treliving is a good thing. He knows not to do that again. He’s due for a good trade.

If a player gives you only a handful of teams you can trade him too, it severely limits your options. Considering the circumstances, I think he did great in the trade. It just hasn't worked yet, but that doesn't mean Hubbie cant be a great player, starting next year.

 

[Future]

We're the richest and most storied team in hockey, and this is the best we can do? Good job Shanahan, good job. Good job hiring Dubas in the first place and then firing him at the worst possible time, and then tieing your hands so badly that you get stuck with GM leftovers. Just brilliant. How do we constantly get stuck with the worst of the worst management? Oh well. Shut the lights off. It's over. This franchise is never winning anything.

Who did you want as GM?

 

[Mobiandi]

A tumultuous road ahead. Good luck lol

 

[TheRumble]

Same people pissed at this hire would’ve loved Tulsky who they only know as a mystery box Carolina’s Assistant GM. They probably have no idea that before Treliving built a perennial contender in Calgary, he was the AGM for the Coyotes when they went to the conference finals.

The man has done a good job working with teams with little resources and clout.

LMAO@Perennial.

Do you know the meaning of that word? It means every single year, constant, consistent.

Calgary:

2014-15 - Made the playoffs.

2015-16 - Missed the playoffs

2016-17 - Made

2017-18 - Missed

2018-19 - Made <--- They were contenders here

2019-20 - Made expanded playoffs

2020-21 - Missed

2021-22 - Made <---- They were contenders here

2022-23 - Missed

 

[seventieslord]

Underwhelmed if that's a word.

Know it is because I looked it up.

I mean it's true that it is a word, but if you're quoting the song, you're quoting it wrong!

Back to "truculence"?

Truculence is fine, just not Colton Orr/Fraser McLaren truculence.

 

[seventieslord]

Key would be Matthews/Nylander AAV -> i.e. what would it be? and... can what may be the expected aav for marner? if 3 of them together is too much I'd dump one of Marner or Nylander in a trade.

When Tavares is off the books; we can use the assets from the marner/nylander trade to upgrade the situation.

like you said we should try to build a solid back-end and have to resolve the goalie situation (freakin' murray contract). That stupid Tavares contract cannot come off the books soon enough

Well then let's start talking like it can actually happen now and not just in two years.

 

[7even]

If a player gives you only a handful of teams you can trade him too, it severely limits your options. Considering the circumstances, I think he did great in the trade. It just hasn't worked yet, but that doesn't mean Hubbie cant be a great player, starting next year.

That'd be fine if the difference between Calgary being a good team and a bad team this year was Huberdeau, but it wasn't.

 

[Future]

That'd be fine if the difference between Calgary being a good team and a bad team this year was Huberdeau, but it wasn't.

They finished with more points than Florida.

LMAO@Perennial.

Do you know the meaning of that word? It means every single year, constant, consistent.

Calgary:

2014-15 - Made the playoffs.

2015-16 - Missed the playoffs

2016-17 - Made

2017-18 - Missed

2018-19 - Made <--- They were contenders here

2019-20 - Made expanded playoffs

2020-21 - Missed

2021-22 - Made <---- They were contenders here

2022-23 - Missed

Semantics.

 

[Lauro]

Dubas haters are once again freaking out that not everyone is jumping for joy over his successor.
Or is of their opinion, that's usually enough of a reason ... Annoying.

 

[Donnie740]

Dubas haters are once again freaking out that not everyone is jumping for joy over his successor.
Or is of their opinion, that's usually enough of a reason ... Annoying.

Anything would be an upgrade over that incompetent gimp, so I’m absolutely thrilled to have Treliving regardless of the Dubas Fan Boi Club not jumping for joy.

 

[TimeZone]

Meh, I mean he was the best of the likely names but thats not saying much.

I'll reserve judgement, but expectations are certainly not high.

 

[Lauro]

Treliving? Meh. But it is what it is and it will be very interesting to follow his moves now.
At least not Bergevin or Hunter.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Looking at the rumoured candidates for Maple Leafs GM being mulled by Brendan Shanahan

Taking a look at six of the GM possibilities for the job with the Maple Leafs

torontosun.com

Brad Treliving

The 53-year-old Treliving, many in the hockey world believe, remains the odds-on favourite to be named the 18th GM in Leafs history.

Barely a month has passed since Treliving and the Calgary Flames agreed to part ways after he was the Flames’ GM for the previous nine seasons. Treliving, as the saying goes, would hit the ground running in the hours after he was hired.

“Really smart guy,” an NHL player agent who has done business with Treliving said. “He’s a ball-buster and not afraid to tell you to you know what. No issue if he’s the guy the Leafs hire.”

If the Leafs get to a point where one of Auston Matthews, Mitch Marner or William Nylander is to be traded, no one we’ve talked to thinks Treliving wouldn’t be able to make it happen for Toronto.

 

[phillipmike]

4th former Flames GM to join the Leafs front office;
-Cliff Fletcher
-Al Coates
-Gord Stellick

And now Treliving. Treliving reminds me of Cliff Fletcher. Wonder if Treliving has a big trade up his sleeve like Fletcher did. Fletcher brought in Pat Burns. Let’s hope history repeats itself.

Also former Leafs GMs Burke and Nonis joined Calgary. It’s like we swap back and forth.

 

[Kiwi]

I must admit I've read this thread and I don't think a lot of people understand the job description

We're employing a new GM, he isn't some all powerful God

He's going to have a say but if you think he's being given full autonomy to do whatever the hell he wants your out of your mind

Just like the last GM job he had, it was widely reported he wanted to **** can Sutter but his owner wouldn't let him

He's going to follow the direction the MLSE board and Shanahan instruct him to take

He's not getting a blank check to do whatever the hell he wants people

 

[Chief Leaf]

I think the Tkachuck blunder by Treliving is a good thing. He knows not to do that again. He’s due for a good trade.

Last offseason everyone loved the Calgary moves. Although turning Tkachuck and Gaudreau into Kadri, Huberdeau and Weegar didn’t work out, it was a pretty good move at the time considering it’s Calgary and they have a harder time retaining free agents then Toronto.

I feel the trades turned astray early because of Sutter possibly.
Hear it out.

Hubey comes in, tries to be a teeam player by passing more than shooting and Kadri tries shooting from the perimeters thinking he has the hot shot (from last year) but should have been more of a net front crease presence, then Sutter calls out Hubey early on , and finger points him out and created a friction and Hubey never seemed to be able to get back to the scorer he was while playing forr the panthers.

I also agree with everything you mentioned.
I also feel Hubredeau will once again next year make the top ten point total leaders with Sutter gone.

All we can do now as Leaf fans is wish Trev the best and hope he can come up with a mixure of players that succeeds in the regular season and the playoffs.

He has to look around and realize that Buffalo (who are huge and fast) and the Sens are also going to make a better push for a playoff bound team and adjust to be able to stay up with the grind and grit that becomes huge not only in the regular season but the playoffs too.

Cheers!

Edited to take the word "it" out that didn't make the sentence make sense lol

 

[hockeywiz542]

‘He checks a lot of boxes for this team’: Corrado likes Treliving hire for Leafs

TSN

May 30, 2023

TSN Hockey analyst Frankie Corrado joins Jay Onrait to explain why he likes the move to hire Brad Treliving as the Toronto Maple Leafs' next GM, why he feels the former Flames GM is "well equipped" to handle Auston Matthews' contract situation, and why his first order of business is to figure out what to do with head coach Sheldon Keefe.