Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I wouldn’t trust this guy to run a Boston Pizza let alone a hockey team.

 

[hullsy47]

I wouldn’t trust this guy to run a Boston Pizza let alone a hockey team.

This is gonna be a different year .maybe missing the playoffs will open up.MSLE eyes
This team.is broke

 

[Leafidelity]

The title of the thread almost reads sarcastic now

 

[ULF_55]

The title of the thread almost reads sarcastic now

You mean it wasn't?

How much did he pay for how much return?

 

[Leafidelity]

You mean it wasn't?

How much did he pay for how much return?

5.5mil tied up between Klingberg and Reaves, who have a combined -13 on the year

 

[hotpaws]

5.5mil tied up between Klingberg and Reaves, who have a combined -13 on the year

yup that's as bad as when Dubie signed Mzarek/Ritchie , at least we won't have to pay to dump them

 

[Maplebeasts]

Early returns are pathetic on the UFA signings. Yeesssshhhhh.

 

[thinkblue]

Early returns are pathetic on the UFA signings. Yeesssshhhhh.

Very curious to see if he's going to acknowledge they aren't working out, particularly Reaves and Klingberg, and move on from them.

 

[thusk]

I have a feeling this thread is going to keep getting funnier and funnier to look back on. Reaves and Klingberg now a combined -17. All of Brad’s additions have collectively scored less points than Matthews, Marner, or Nylander have individually. Gregor’s 1 goal in the first game is 25% of the total goals Brad’s boys have scored this year, or 1 less goal than Lafferty currently has.

And we get all that elite production and defensive play for the low low price of 15+ million dollars.

Honestly that just remembered me a little bit of 2019-2020 where option in summer was pretty trash and dubas try something after fail to trade kadri for brodje and just taking what they was able with Barrie...

Its a little bit of same thing, with injury of Muzzin leafs have an huge need as #2 but the market was pretty trash... the only good was orlov and for me he doesn't deserve the 7M he got...

So he tries something more risky but only 1 year with klinberg who look like a disaster right now. But when you dont have any good option, its pretty hard to make the right choice...but at least still have option at trade deadlime with only 1 year deal and next summer to fix the real problem

 

[Budz]

The Klingberg signing alone - is already a firable offense.

 

[ULF_55]

Honestly that just remembered me a little bit of 2019-2020 where option in summer was pretty trash and dubas try something after fail to trade kadri for brodje and just taking what they was able with Barrie...

Its a little bit of same thing, with injury of Muzzin leafs have an huge need as #2 but the market was pretty trash... the only good was orlov and for me he doesn't deserve the 7M he got...

So he tries something more risky but only 1 year with klinberg who look like a disaster right now. But when you dont have any good option, its pretty hard to make the right choice...but at least still have option at trade deadlime with only 1 year deal and next summer to fix the real problem

Hindsight ...

But maybe paying big money for 1 defender and signing some lessor lights for forward position and lean on the Marlies.

At this point I think the only defenseman you could support a Marlie's player with would be Rielly.

All the defenders in the line-up outside Rielly need someone to support them.

Injuries of course, but that defense is brutally bad.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Honestly that just remembered me a little bit of 2019-2020 where option in summer was pretty trash and dubas try something after fail to trade kadri for brodje and just taking what they was able with Barrie...

Its a little bit of same thing, with injury of Muzzin leafs have an huge need as #2 but the market was pretty trash... the only good was orlov and for me he doesn't deserve the 7M he got...

So he tries something more risky but only 1 year with klinberg who look like a disaster right now. But when you dont have any good option, its pretty hard to make the right choice...but at least still have option at trade deadlime with only 1 year deal and next summer to fix the real problem

Between doing nothing and signing arguably the two worst defensive players in the league, doing nothing seems like a better choice.

Keep Acciari for the same money Reaves got and sign some generic #4-6s that know where the defensive zone is. Signing players that are actively sabotaging us because “nothing better was available” is absurd, they had the worst defensive metrics in the league before they got here.

I had some money to spend but there was nothing good to buy so I paid someone to shoot me in both legs. What else was I supposed to do, there was nothing good to buy!

 

[authentic]

I have a feeling this thread is going to keep getting funnier and funnier to look back on. Reaves and Klingberg now a combined -17. All of Brad’s additions have collectively scored less points than Matthews, Marner, or Nylander have individually. Gregor’s 1 goal in the first game is 25% of the total goals Brad’s boys have scored this year, or 1 less goal than Lafferty currently has.

And we get all that elite production and defensive play for the low low price of 15+ million dollars.

It's all Dubas's fault though

 

[hotpaws]

It's all Dubas's fault though

who's Mirtle and Dubie's pimp crew going to blame for the summer he had in Pitt now that Shanny isn't his prez ?

 

[The Iceman]

I would easily and unapologetically sit KLING when McCabe is ready to return.

 

[notbias]

who's Mirtle and Dubie's pimp crew going to blame for the summer he had in Pitt now that Shanny isn't his prez ?

You might want to start thinking of another talking point besides pointing out how bad Pittsburgh is... they are catching up

 

[thusk]

Hindsight ...

But maybe paying big money for 1 defender and signing some lessor lights for forward position and lean on the Marlies.

At this point I think the only defenseman you could support a Marlie's player with would be Rielly.

All the defenders in the line-up outside Rielly need someone to support them.

Injuries of course, but that defense is brutally bad.

Brodie can support a marlies but the problem... we asking to brodie tonplay like a #2 and hes not a #2 hes a #3... asking liljegren and mccabe to play like a 3rd d but they are not 3rd but 4th/th... now they asking it to gio who a 6/7th and klinberg who a 3rd pair dman who need to play in specific situation to be succesful but rigjt now need to play way too much against top opposite team...


When everyone is in the wrong chair, can you really except a different result?

I think leafs fan really underrated impact Muzzin had in this team as #2 and now his carreer is over... but watch last 4 year... muzzin get hurt, leafs was struggling just so much in that serie.

Vs mtl, the moment he get injured, everything changed... thats where habs started to take full control of that series...

Last season deapite leafs win, theybdeserved to loose vs tampa...

The best series theybplayed was the only one Muzzin played everygame...

It was the only time leafs was looking enough good to make a playoff run...

Between doing nothing and signing arguably the two worst defensive players in the league, doing nothing seems like a better choice.

Keep Acciari for the same money Reaves got and sign some generic #4-6s that know where the defensive zone is. Signing players that are actively sabotaging us because “nothing better was available” is absurd, they had the worst defensive metrics in the league before they got here.

I had some money to spend but there was nothing good to buy so I paid someone to shoot me in both legs. What else was I supposed to do, there was nothing good to buy!

Its easy to say that but if acciari had no interest to stay in toronto...

He had money to spend to try to help the team, its pretty hard sometime to anticipate what will happening... so you need to take guest, yes. Sometime its working, sometime not..if you try nothing for sure you will never be wrong, but that will never makr your team a better one...

But he didn't made any mistake he can't repair easily

 

[BallardEra]

Cut the guy some slack. He’s still in the honeymoon and grace period stage of his tenure.

 

[hotpaws]

You might want to start thinking of another talking point besides pointing out how bad Pittsburgh is... they are catching up

yup they beat up on the mighty Sharks and got by the powerhouse Ducks, lol

there's nothing more i'd enjoy than watching that pompous ass Dubas crash and burn in Pitt , unfortunately i've always been a big fan of Sid/Geno so i don't want to see them finish up on a bottom feeder

 

[Dekes For Days]

there's nothing more i'd enjoy than watching that pompous ass Dubas crash and burn in Pitt

Personally, I'd prefer to watch the Leafs win the cup.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Brodie can support a marlies but the problem... we asking to brodie tonplay like a #2 and hes not a #2 hes a #3... asking liljegren and mccabe to play like a 3rd d but they are not 3rd but 4th/th... now they asking it to gio who a 6/7th and klinberg who a 3rd pair dman who need to play in specific situation to be succesful but rigjt now need to play way too much against top opposite team...


When everyone is in the wrong chair, can you really except a different result?

I think leafs fan really underrated impact Muzzin had in this team as #2 and now his carreer is over... but watch last 4 year... muzzin get hurt, leafs was struggling just so much in that serie.

Vs mtl, the moment he get injured, everything changed... thats where habs started to take full control of that series...

Last season deapite leafs win, theybdeserved to loose vs tampa...

The best series theybplayed was the only one Muzzin played everygame...

It was the only time leafs was looking enough good to make a playoff run...


Its easy to say that but if acciari had no interest to stay in toronto...

He had money to spend to try to help the team, its pretty hard sometime to anticipate what will happening... so you need to take guest, yes. Sometime its working, sometime not..if you try nothing for sure you will never be wrong, but that will never makr your team a better one...

But he didn't made any mistake he can't repair easily

Ok if not Acciari then any of the other grinders that are not literally the worst defensive forward in the league with less than 0 offense.

You say sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t but it seems like all of them didn’t work.

How can he repair a wasted season easily? It would cost us picks just to dump his dogshit signings let alone add quality replacements.

 

[cyris]

who's Mirtle and Dubie's pimp crew going to blame for the summer he had in Pitt now that Shanny isn't his prez ?

Dubas is gone. Who cares how he is doing in Pittsburg. Sure he turned a team that missed the playoffs into a team that will probably miss the playoffs. Big deal it doesn’t affect us.
Why can’t people discuss the failures of the current GM without obsessing about the former GM. We get it you hate him but that has nothing to do with the poor moves the current one has made.

Treliving on the other hand took a team that had issues but played strong defensive hockey and turned them into one of the worst defensive teams in the league. He didn’t even fix any of the other holes while doing it. They still are too soft. They still don’t have enough scoring depth and they still have a flawed cap structure and overly rely on the core 4.

 

[Jacquestrapless]

One thing I'll comment on is that I think Trev over-corrected on the depth scoring for the backend. With the rise of Knies, bertuzzi and domi were probably good enough for secondary scoring. Robertson is a nice surprise as well.

He didn't really need to go for offense on the back end. Reliable Defense is way more important at that point and I would have been satisfied with just Rielly being our sole point producer and just use the money for a defensive Dman.

 

[Nylanderthal]

I get that Tre walked into a terrible situation but never thought I'd see the team log six losses under his stewardship.

I did want us to start making playoff calibrated decisions, and knew it could take as much as two years to right this ship, but not at the expense of losing four times in regulation.

This start is almost as bad as the last few years.

Terrible situation? 105-110pt calibre roster with prime aged stars under contract and with nearly $20m in space to fill some obvious holes.
Unfortunately he wasted the resources on the wrong players, thankfully here unlike in Calgary most won’t be long term anchors.
Man, was that last year ever a drag bunt on the way out the door leaving Calgary with those Kadri and huberdeau deals.

yup that's as bad as when Dubie signed Mzarek/Ritchie , at least we won't have to pay to dump them

Nice deflection. Ritchie didn’t “cost” anything to get rid of, he was traded with a pick for a better player who fit a more pressing role.
Mrazek was a bad deal, but he still managed to get out with no retention and got the prospect his draft team wanted.

yup they beat up on the mighty Sharks and got by the powerhouse Ducks, lol

there's nothing more i'd enjoy than watching that pompous ass Dubas crash and burn in Pitt , unfortunately i've always been a big fan of Sid/Geno so i don't want to see them finish up on a bottom feeder

And Trelivings team lost to Chicago and Nashville

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Don't be surprised things turn bad when your good buddy pokes the bear with a stick.

It's getting harder and harder to have faith in this management group. Not when they completely misevaluated the incoming players. Either that or they messed up integrating them all.

I don't blame Treliving either.

It's not his fault he's incompetent at his job. If someone offered me millions of dollars to run a hockey team I'd accept in a heartbeat. Then do a horrible job despite my best efforts.

"Fake it til you make it" doesn't cut it in the NHL.

Unless you work for ML$E. Then all you gotta do is be better at your job than Shanahan is at his. Same as how you don't gotta out run the bear.

Only the dummy who poked it.