Brad Treliving is doing a great job.
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Fogelhund
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How is Domi a fail? What is your expectations for a $3 mil 3C? Currently 63rd in C scoring, with far less ice time than those around him.. so bottom end 2C/top end 3C production, over 50% in faceoffs, at $ 3mil?
Benoit has been a win...
Agree with the rest though.
I don't think he is doing a great job, nor an awful job. He didn't have a ton of options and we never will know all of his options (what were his other choices...for what $$$, who did or didn't want to show up in Toronto?)
The guys he signed were a calculated risk. Some will turn out, some not. Maybe Domi and Bertuzzi were slight overpays, maybe not. But if you didin't have any other options (or good options) and they were next on your 'list' and that was the price...and you could afford that price....I don't know.
You don't have a lot of cap space....he didn't have a lot of 'prime minutes' to offer guys, especially forwards, so he hasn't done much good but may not have had many options to do better. This is the team, its the nature of this Roster as long as you have the big 4/big 5 making what they are, and expecting the ice time they are.
The guys he signed were a calculated risk. Some will turn out, some not. Maybe Domi and Bertuzzi were slight overpays, maybe not. But if you didin't have any other options (or good options) and they were next on your 'list' and that was the price...and you could afford that price....I don't know.
You don't have a lot of cap space....he didn't have a lot of 'prime minutes' to offer guys, especially forwards, so he hasn't done much good but may not have had many options to do better. This is the team, its the nature of this Roster as long as you have the big 4/big 5 making what they are, and expecting the ice time they are.
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Domi has been great. Especially at that money. i Hope he's here for a few years at least. The bottom of the barrel signings ie. benoit and gregor have been great too.
Everything else has been pretty terrible though.
although i can see how Bertuzzi's game is better suited for the playoffs so i am willing give him that chance at least.
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5 goals in 51 games. I’m sorry that’s putrid. Maybe if your making league minimum I could get past that but not when your making 3 mill. Maybe I’m wrong but I see that as a fail.
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You are wrong. Setting up other for goals, is pretty valuable too, and he's done that a lot. I'd prefer an upgrade at 3C, but for $3 million, his total points and TOI, that's great. He's 132nd in Points/60, out of 424 players who have played more than 200 minutes this year. His cap hit is 198th in the league for forwards... if you can get production higher than your cap hit spot... that's decent.
If you focus just on goals, instead of how players affect whether we win, or lose... you'll get a very skewed picture. We score more when he's on the ice, than we get scored against, he's a big part of that... that's winning.
Take a look at how he compares points wise, to other C's.... then look at their TOI, and their cap hits...
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notDatsyuk
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He doesn't get much PP time, and not on the top unit. How about ES?
With 25% less ES ice time, Domi has 1 fewer goals (4 to 5) and more assists (18 to 13) at 5-on-5 than our $11M 2C.
You are wrong. Setting up other for goals, is pretty valuable too, and he's done that a lot. I'd prefer an upgrade at 3C, but for $3 million, his total points and TOI, that's great. He's 132nd in Points/60, out of 424 players who have played more than 200 minutes this year. His cap hit is 198th in the league for forwards... if you can get production higher than your cap hit spot... that's decent.
If you focus just on goals, instead of how players affect whether we win, or lose... you'll get a very skewed picture. We score more when he's on the ice, than we get scored against, he's a big part of that... that's winning.
Take a look at how he compares points wise, to other C's.... then look at their TOI, and their cap hits...
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Domi has been good, Benoit has been surprisingly good. The rest, even if they weren’t the utter failures they’ve been the contracts were ridiculous. I don’t believe he has a single clue how to run a hockey team or evaluate players properly.
its cancelled due to Morgan appealing the suspensionI am at work so won't be able to tune in live (probably); anyone know what time Tre is addressing the media?
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If they extend Domi, I suspect his on ice impact will increase positively especially if Tavares starts to get even more sheltered for his final year.
Tre has earned a decent amount of criticisms, but Domi has been a good gamble imo
Tre has earned a decent amount of criticisms, but Domi has been a good gamble imo
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I sure hope he is getting it somewhere else.
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If our $3M 3C is outperforming our $11M 2C, I'm sure that says something, if only begging the question "which one is putrid?"
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Matthews and Nylander just had a sort of mutual feeling they'd stay. Matthews is a star here and can have whatever he wants. Nylander is another prime winger that is an all around perfect fit for both him and the Leafs.
JT and Marner will be fascinating to see and I genuinely have no idea what will happen. I'd guess Tavares is offered a high dollar short term deal, or mid dollar mid range deal.
I have no guess on Marner. I have an opinion on what I'd do, but have no idea if the Leafs will make him the 3rd highest paid player in the NHL if we lose to Florida in round 1 or something.
JT and Marner will be fascinating to see and I genuinely have no idea what will happen. I'd guess Tavares is offered a high dollar short term deal, or mid dollar mid range deal.
I have no guess on Marner. I have an opinion on what I'd do, but have no idea if the Leafs will make him the 3rd highest paid player in the NHL if we lose to Florida in round 1 or something.
I want to believe that getting wiped by Florida again or missing the playoffs would be the best thing for this organization in the long run, but who knows with MLSE. Shanahan is heading into a lame duck season though and may be forced to make some real change this off season if/when things go south. Again, who knows with these people.
Agreed. Think it has more to do with how shit Tavares is rather than any sort of cookie for Domi.
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You're on vacation when they called you not our fault you had airplane mode on.
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Giving Marner 12-13M+ will be the final nail in the coffin at our chances I'd think. 100% my mind will change if he pops off and scores 10G+ this playoffs and has an actual impact on us winning multiple series'
However, going 6A and 3G, I would not re-sign at that amount under any circumstances
However, going 6A and 3G, I would not re-sign at that amount under any circumstances
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It would be a strange place for management to be in... let him walk for nothing? Even with the cap space, it could be difficult to make the team better after. But it's improbable that you can trade him either... catch 22 situation. Plus what about the dynamics between Matthews and Marner... does Matthews sulk and want out after? Personally, I don't know the internal dynamics and how that would affect things.
I think we will re-sign him and as fans we just have to wait until they all retire for us to move forward. There is no way to build a roster that can win the Cup with all that money tied up in 3 or 4 players.
It is beyond frustrating, but what can we do? We just need to be patient for another 8 or 9 years and then go from there.
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