Brad Treliving- 1st year complete.

[Dekes For Days]

Ok I’m dying to know how many years you think it has been since this core was assembled.

What I'm dying to know is how this "cap allocation model" existed before the contracts did.

 

[Racer88]

What I'm dying to know is how this "cap allocation model" existed before the contracts did.

That’s sort of a different discussion. My question is about this core not being able to get it done for many years in a row.
I await your answer

 

[Dekes For Days]

That’s sort of a different discussion.

Seems to be exactly the discussion:

8 years of failure with this core and cap allocation model

The biggest elements of the base core were brought together 6 years ago. The cap allocation model has existed for 5 years.
We've had those core pieces together in the playoffs within this cap allocation model for 3 of those years.

 

[ToneDog]

One of the best playoff performances ever...



Since we are comparing players, is Kucherov one of the worst players ever? 0 points in game 7s.

Have the 3 amigos wom A game 7 ? Now do kutch. Therein lies the difference. We won't talk about cups.

 

[ToneDog]

So the bar is arguably the GOAT player now? Love our fanbase

Pay me like the goat but don't expect me to perform close to him. Spoiler alert none of the 3 amigos are close o the ice but you keep trying to defend d them. It is one reason why other fanbases laugh at us.

 

[notbias]

Have the 3 amigos wom A game 7 ? Now do kutch. Therein lies the difference. We won't talk about cups.

Has Kucherov contributed to a game 7 win?

You're the one bringing up how important specific numbered games are.

I think Kucherov is great, but by your logic, he sucks.

 

[Racer88]

Seems to be exactly the discussion:

The biggest elements of the base core were brought together 6 years ago. The cap allocation model has existed for 5 years.
We've had those core pieces together in the playoffs within this cap allocation model for 3 of those years.

So 6 years for this core group, I thought so

 

[Dekes For Days]

Have the 3 amigos wom A game 7 ? Now do kutch. Therein lies the difference.

So the difference is Vasilevsky? What does he have to do with Kucherov?

 

[ToneDog]

Has Kucherov contributed to a game 7 win?

You're the one bringing up how important specific numbered games are.

I think Kucherov is great, but by your logic, he sucks.

I'm guessing yes but I can't say I've watched all his game 7s. I know our guys have not been very good in game 7s and we have lost them all. Nobody would be critical of these guys if they showed up and/or were not making all the money. It is about accountability.

 

[Budz]

I just want to have hope. Running it back is death.

Needs to gtfo:
Marner
JT
Rielly
Kampf
Jarnkrok
Robertson
Liljegren

 

[Racer88]

I just want to have hope. Running it back is death.

Needs to gtfo:
Marner
JT
Rielly
Kampf
Jarnkrok
Robertson
Liljegren

I agree. Running the same thing back again only at an even higher cost is pointless and if Treliving signs Marner to anything more then 7 million he get a major failing grade

 

[LeafsTop6]

Everyone forgets about the kampf extension eh..

 

[NMacrules]

This dipshit should get to work and start signing players or he will be picking from the bottom of the barrel. Markstrom is gone. Many others signed.

 

[Ports]

I agree. Running the same thing back again only at an even higher cost is pointless and if Treliving signs Marner to anything more then 7 million he get a major failing grade

Don’t worry. Marner won’t sign in Toronto for less than Nylander money which means he’ll have to go somewhere else to be paid less.

 

[Ports]

Can’t evaluate Treliving on one season. His first job was to re-sign Matthews and Nylander which he did. He was told he couldn’t trade Marner because Shanahan stupidly phoned him and told him he was not going to be traded.

He added some size and grit especially at the deadline which helped them defend well in the playoffs. I thought Domi, Jones and Benoit were good signings. Bertuzzi played well in the second half of the season. Reaves was questionable and Klingberg obviously didn’t work out but his contract didn’t hurt them.

Their issues is their core five players who don’t perform well enough in the playoffs and all have NMC. If he can somehow move one or two of Marner, Tavares or Rielly he will deserve praise but realistically what he does with their cap space this summer by improving their defense and then more so next offseason when Marner and Tavares come off the books will define his legacy as the Leafs GM.

I like his move away from small and soft to bigger, meaner and tougher to play against. It’s not going to be easy to build this group to beat a team like Florida but I think he’s up to the job. Time will tell.

 

[ULF_55]

I have to give some credit to Treliving.

For the past several years Leafs have had no 1st. or had to wait late 20's.

Treliving in 1 year already moved us up to 23rd.
A lot less waiting around.

Great job!

"What do you mean trade back?"

 

[darrylsittler27]

I suppose that’s possible but after 8 years of failure with this core and cap allocation model I doubt the are miraculously suddenly go from first round losers to cup winners, especially when our mail competition makes changes and keeps getting better

They will never win a cup with this group. They have a weak pool, no picks next year and have already dumped a 2,4,6th picks in 2026. When TD hits they will be handcuffed. The great thing is we get to waste one more year on this model. The odds of the Leafs winning a cup? Find the next Roy.

I just want to have hope. Running it back is death.

Needs to gtfo:
Marner
JT
Rielly
Kampf
Jarnkrok
Robertson
Liljegren

I hate to tell you but no one will take Reillys contract. No team is just a Reilly away from a cup. All the others need to be gone. Tavares as Cptn won't work.I can't wait till Marner gets Sundined.

 

[egd27]

Marner has never scored in a game 5,6,7

Actually he has

 

[notDatsyuk]

Actually he has

He also scored the second goal in game 4 against Florida last year, which was an elimination game, so comparable to a 5, 6, or 7.

 

[weems]

Was extremely average.
Didn't do anything amazing, didn't do anything awful that sunk our team.
Now that we have money and there's alot of players that fit our team needs in free agency, this offseason will show alot in the quality of GM he is.

 

[Dough72]

signing Nylander and Matthews is running it back.

 

[CaptainCrunch17]

The Leafs need to stop trading away draft picks and get back to developing young, up and coming players that can help the team on low cost contracts.

It seems like Treliving is moving in that direction which to me is a positive development.

Dubas blew through way too many draft picks trying to compensate for his lack of cap space, especially at the TDL for players that were supposed to be the final piece of the puzzle and then never were.

With better cap management, the Leafs could have and should have used the UFA market to fill those same holes for nothing more than money which they have lots of.

 

[Nineteen67]

Was extremely average.
Didn't do anything amazing, didn't do anything awful that sunk our team.
Now that we have money and there's alot of players that fit our team needs in free agency, this offseason will show alot in the quality of GM he is.

The greatest needs they can’t fill through FA. I wonder if there might be some big trades coming up.

 

[al secord]

The greatest needs they can’t fill through FA. I wonder if there might be some big trades coming up.

That's what I'm afraid of. Ask Calgary how the Summer of Tre went for them.

 

[NMacrules]

He better get his ass in gear. The draft is 5 days away and we only have half a team right now. They are working on an extension for Marner. I hope the deal doesn't have a NTC or NMC.