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He refused to compete. Over the years, Nylander and Matthews have had their moments where they didn’t compete, either. It’s impossible to win if you lack that skill, especially if it’s your high $$$ players.
Brad Treliving- 1st year complete.
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Dreakmur
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Terrible bad luck. Dubas never made one mistake!
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Do you believe that having another double digit salary in Karlsson to go along with the 4 we have now was the way to go in Toronto for Treliving.
I want him to cut 4 down to 2 leaving just AM and WN as the ones with double digit AAV, and work on slimming down the top heavy contract approach of the past.
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You could try that, but management should make it clear to those two that if they don’t compete at an acceptable level again in the playoffs, then they’ll be moved as well.
TMLBlueandWhite
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I think Karlsson at $11M is too much risk.
Now Karlsson at $5M along with Tavares and Marner borh off the team would be a dream come true. Maybe something like this could work. Only gomna happen in imagination world.
But if anyone could make it happen, it would be the king of the blockbuster trade, Brad Treliving himself, to do it.
Racer88
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Making bad, emotionally-based decisions that hurt the team doesn't change past playoff outcomes or improve future ones, even if it's cathartic.
Racer88
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Staying with the same core and cap structure doesn’t improve the outcome either. We have 8 years of proof to use as evidence
Skullz
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I'm happy that Dubas is gone, but Treliving is far from impressive.
The 3.7 million he wasted on Kampf and Reaves for another 2 years would go along way to adding the defenceman and center that we need.
The Klingberg signing was also a disaster. I was okay with the player, but not at that prize point.
His trade deadline was very average. I am quite worried about the contracts he might hand out.
The 3.7 million he wasted on Kampf and Reaves for another 2 years would go along way to adding the defenceman and center that we need.
The Klingberg signing was also a disaster. I was okay with the player, but not at that prize point.
His trade deadline was very average. I am quite worried about the contracts he might hand out.
It gives us a better chance of future success than any realistic alternative that's been suggested so far.
notDatsyuk
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Making bad, emotionally-based decisions that hurt the team are what caused the past playoff outcomes. Remedying them may be cathartic, and improve future ones.
None of the past playoff outcomes were caused by "bad, emotionally based decisions that hurt the team"; not that it would justify making more bad, emotionally-based decisions regardless.
notDatsyuk
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Not only are you wrong (as usual), but you can't even see when people are making fun of your posts!
It's mean of me - I'll stop.
Racer88
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I suppose that’s possible but after 8 years of failure with this core and cap allocation model I doubt the are miraculously suddenly go from first round losers to cup winners, especially when our mail competition makes changes and keeps getting better
I think that signing was more the Front Office. They have been trying to replace Reilly on the PP for years now like trading Kadri for Tyson Barrie. I doubt Treliving showed up and just coincidentally had that first on his to-do list.
Sometimes I get the sense that people think Tre was suprised how things worked out. I suspect he was even less shocked than people here - he gets a lot of information.
They gambled on Kling because there was nothing better to do with the money at the time - an advantage Toronto has.
Kling broke, his cap hit was erased, and they moved on with no burden.
TheGreenTBer
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It still amazes me how much money Klingberg lost by not taking Dallas' 6x6 offer a few years ago. He thought he could get more and instead his career fell off a cliff.
Thought it was even more than that - 8M or something. But certainly pretty unfortunate for him money-wise whatever it was.
Hard to know how much of that debacle was Kling, his agent, or bad luck, but he's got 40M in career earnings, so he should probably just prioritize his health, with his biggest regret being the playing time he lost as the best he could be through the limited journey he was fortunate to have.
TheGreenTBer
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I remember him firing his agent afterwards, or during, or whatever?
Dallas would have had to buy him out very soon into that deal. That would have been a catastrophic deal for a team that is generally well-run.
rumman
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We should know whether Tre will be a effective GM by the start of this season, he’s got a lot of work to do, I’m not convinced he’s the guy, but I’m willing to give him a chance……….
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rumman
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If it tuly is “run it back” this place will be a echo chamber of loser mentality being happy with regular season success followed by more playoff failure……..
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Regardless, what happens in the off season, I am going to enjoy every game. The more games, the better!
