Brad Treliving- 1st year complete.

[Nineteen67]

Come on man…….Marner is totally awful in the playoffs and his attitude suck…….he actually thinks fans treat him like a god.

He refused to compete. Over the years, Nylander and Matthews have had their moments where they didn’t compete, either. It’s impossible to win if you lack that skill, especially if it’s your high $$$ players.

 

[Gabriel426]

Now that he has gone to Pittsburgh Dubas has finally started doing things I wanted to see here.

Hire Mann. Trade for Karlsson. Sign Graves.

I still think those would all have been good moves for the Leafs even if they don't work out for Dubas.

Hint, hint, Treliving....

You forgot trading away Nylander

 

[Dreakmur]

And yet we continue to lose in the first round.
Dubas and Marner have a total of 1 round win in his 5 years.
Individually his contract does not prohibit us getting better players but the 4 amigos collectively take to much money without a good return……..year after year of playoff failure

Terrible bad luck. Dubas never made one mistake!

 

[Mess]

Now that he has gone to Pittsburgh Dubas has finally started doing things I wanted to see here.

Hire Mann. Trade for Karlsson. Sign Graves.

I still think those would all have been good moves for the Leafs even if they don't work out for Dubas.

Hint, hint, Treliving....

Do you believe that having another double digit salary in Karlsson to go along with the 4 we have now was the way to go in Toronto for Treliving.

I want him to cut 4 down to 2 leaving just AM and WN as the ones with double digit AAV, and work on slimming down the top heavy contract approach of the past.

 

[Nineteen67]

Do you believe that having another double digit salary in Karlsson to go along with the 4 we have now was the way to go in Toronto for Treliving.

I want him to cut 4 down to 2 leaving just AM and WN as the ones with double digit AAV, and work on slimming down the top heavy contract approach of the past.

You could try that, but management should make it clear to those two that if they don’t compete at an acceptable level again in the playoffs, then they’ll be moved as well.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Do you believe that having another double digit salary in Karlsson to go along with the 4 we have now was the way to go in Toronto for Treliving.

I want him to cut 4 down to 2 leaving just AM and WN as the ones with double digit AAV, and work on slimming down the top heavy contract approach of the past.

I think Karlsson at $11M is too much risk.

Now Karlsson at $5M along with Tavares and Marner borh off the team would be a dream come true. Maybe something like this could work. Only gomna happen in imagination world.

But if anyone could make it happen, it would be the king of the blockbuster trade, Brad Treliving himself, to do it.

 

[Racer88]

Terrible bad luck. Dubas never made one mistake!

Ya, dam that bad luck

 

[Dekes For Days]

And yet we continue to lose in the first round.

Making bad, emotionally-based decisions that hurt the team doesn't change past playoff outcomes or improve future ones, even if it's cathartic.

 

[Racer88]

Making bad, emotionally-based decisions that hurt the team doesn't change past playoff outcomes or improve future ones, even if it's cathartic.

Staying with the same core and cap structure doesn’t improve the outcome either. We have 8 years of proof to use as evidence

 

[darrylsittler27]

Where did you hear that?

The bong told me.

 

[Skullz]

I'm happy that Dubas is gone, but Treliving is far from impressive.

The 3.7 million he wasted on Kampf and Reaves for another 2 years would go along way to adding the defenceman and center that we need.

The Klingberg signing was also a disaster. I was okay with the player, but not at that prize point.

His trade deadline was very average. I am quite worried about the contracts he might hand out.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Staying with the same core and cap structure doesn’t improve the outcome either.

It gives us a better chance of future success than any realistic alternative that's been suggested so far.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Making bad, emotionally-based decisions that hurt the team doesn't change past playoff outcomes or improve future ones, even if it's cathartic.

Making bad, emotionally-based decisions that hurt the team are what caused the past playoff outcomes. Remedying them may be cathartic, and improve future ones.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Making bad, emotionally-based decisions that hurt the team are what caused the past playoff outcomes.

None of the past playoff outcomes were caused by "bad, emotionally based decisions that hurt the team"; not that it would justify making more bad, emotionally-based decisions regardless.

 

[notDatsyuk]

None of the past playoff outcomes were caused by "bad, emotionally based decisions that hurt the team"; not that it would justify making more bad, emotionally-based decisions regardless.

Not only are you wrong (as usual), but you can't even see when people are making fun of your posts!

It's mean of me - I'll stop.

 

[Racer88]

It gives us a better chance of future success than any realistic alternative that's been suggested so far.

I suppose that’s possible but after 8 years of failure with this core and cap allocation model I doubt the are miraculously suddenly go from first round losers to cup winners, especially when our mail competition makes changes and keeps getting better

 

[Dough72]

The Klingberg signing was also a disaster. I was okay with the player, but not at that prize point.

I think that signing was more the Front Office. They have been trying to replace Reilly on the PP for years now like trading Kadri for Tyson Barrie. I doubt Treliving showed up and just coincidentally had that first on his to-do list.

 

[LeafEgo]

I think that signing was more the Front Office. They have been trying to replace Reilly on the PP for years now like trading Kadri for Tyson Barrie. I doubt Treliving showed up and just coincidentally had that first on his to-do list.

Sometimes I get the sense that people think Tre was suprised how things worked out. I suspect he was even less shocked than people here - he gets a lot of information.

They gambled on Kling because there was nothing better to do with the money at the time - an advantage Toronto has.

Kling broke, his cap hit was erased, and they moved on with no burden.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Sometimes I get the sense that people think Tre was suprised how things worked out. I suspect he was even less shocked than people here - he gets a lot of information.

They gambled on Kling because there was nothing better to do with the money at the time - an advantage Toronto has.

Kling broke, his cap hit was erased, and they moved on with no burden.

It still amazes me how much money Klingberg lost by not taking Dallas' 6x6 offer a few years ago. He thought he could get more and instead his career fell off a cliff.

 

[LeafEgo]

It still amazes me how much money Klingberg lost by not taking Dallas' 6x6 offer a few years ago. He thought he could get more and instead his career fell off a cliff.

Thought it was even more than that - 8M or something. But certainly pretty unfortunate for him money-wise whatever it was.

Hard to know how much of that debacle was Kling, his agent, or bad luck, but he's got 40M in career earnings, so he should probably just prioritize his health, with his biggest regret being the playing time he lost as the best he could be through the limited journey he was fortunate to have.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Thought it was even more than that - 8M or something. But certainly pretty unfortunate for him money-wise whatever it was.

Hard to know how much of that debacle was Kling, his agent, or bad luck, but he's got 40M in career earnings, so he should probably just prioritize his health, with his biggest regret being the playing time he lost as the best he could be through the limited journey he was fortunate to have.

I remember him firing his agent afterwards, or during, or whatever?

Dallas would have had to buy him out very soon into that deal. That would have been a catastrophic deal for a team that is generally well-run.

 

[rumman]

I'm happy that Dubas is gone, but Treliving is far from impressive.

The 3.7 million he wasted on Kampf and Reaves for another 2 years would go along way to adding the defenceman and center that we need.

The Klingberg signing was also a disaster. I was okay with the player, but not at that prize point.

His trade deadline was very average. I am quite worried about the contracts he might hand out.

We should know whether Tre will be a effective GM by the start of this season, he’s got a lot of work to do, I’m not convinced he’s the guy, but I’m willing to give him a chance……….

 

[Trapper]

We should know whether Tre will be a effective GM by the start of this season, he’s got a lot of work to do, I’m not convinced he’s the guy, but I’m willing to give him a chance……….

I’ll know by the start of the season whether I’m following them or not.

 

[rumman]

I’ll know by the start of the season whether I’m following them or not.

If it tuly is “run it back” this place will be a echo chamber of loser mentality being happy with regular season success followed by more playoff failure……..

 

[Leaf Fans]

If it tuly is “run it back” this place will be a echo chamber of loser mentality being happy with regular season success followed by more playoff failure……..

Regardless, what happens in the off season, I am going to enjoy every game. The more games, the better!