Brad Richards Part II

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I guess I'm just a good person but I still feel bad for the guy for some reason

Although, I wouldn't expect people to feel bad for me if I was an 83 year old woman hockey player making 12 million dollars

i sympathize with aging players... he can't do something he loves anymore. money is only a piece of it... hockey is literally this guy's life 10 months a year.

he's facing a buyout because of a half-season of mediocre performance. he'll be leaving his stanley cup coach over 42 games.

he's been crippled by poor coaching... why keep a guy lacking confidence on a stagnant powerplay to hold the entire weight of mediocrity??
 
Hopefully we get some info on what went wrong with Brad. Something doesn't add up.
Maybe personal or family issues?

Rangers put a lot a stock in this guy leading the way for years to come. We need to replace him one way or the other
 
Hopefully we get some info on what went wrong with Brad. Something doesn't add up.
Maybe personal or family issues?

Rangers put a lot a stock in this guy leading the way for years to come. We need to replace him one way or the other

when does the buyout have to happen this summer? Can they sign a Stephen Weiss and then buyout Richards for example?

Its a tough call cause I want to give him another yr but they need to sign the RFA's and likely Clowe.

Also I am on the giving Torts a full training camp/1 more yr wagon
 
Here is the question with Richards:

1) Does he just suck now and is washed up?
OR
2) Is he just out of shape?

If 2, you'd be tempted to keep him, but if 1, let go.

I think it's a combo of both, and for sure, Richards is NOT a number 1 center, or a PP QB, both of which the Rangers need, and since he already is on line 4, he needs to go so we can use those resources more appropriately.
 
Here is the question with Richards:

1) Does he just suck now and is washed up?
OR
2) Is he just out of shape?

If 2, you'd be tempted to keep him, but if 1, let go.

I think it's a combo of both, and for sure, Richards is NOT a number 1 center, or a PP QB, both of which the Rangers need, and since he already is on line 4, he needs to go so we can use those resources more appropriately.

I was on board with the out of shape excuse through February. But there comes a time where he should've been back in shape.

Whats most concerning is the terrible decisions with the puck. The game is too fast for his body and his brain.
 
I was on board with the out of shape excuse through February. But there comes a time where he should've been back in shape.

Whats most concerning is the terrible decisions with the puck. The game is too fast for his body and his brain.

For a player who has supposed VERY high hockey IQ and great vision, the out of shape excuse should never have applied. This isn't Lucic who was out of shape and sucked because of his style of play. He can't, and couldn't control a puck.
 
I have not been going thru this tread, but I remember that while he was in dallas allot of guys were expressing concern over the concussion he suffered towards the end of that year. Despite spurts of decent play and accumilating points at times, truthfully richards has never looked like the same player since, not here and not in dallas.
 
Honestly I think part of it is physical decline. There is no doubt Richards looks several steps slower.

But more concerning is that the majority of it appears to be mental. He looks like a beaten dog out there. So rattled to the core. 0 confidence. Can't connect a pass or hit the net.

Which ironically also means I could see him being a key player for whatever team he winds up with once the expectations are off his shoulders.

This was not supposed to be an issue with BR.
 
How to measure and gauge how athletes age is one of the trickiest parts of the job of a GM in any sport. In point of fact, I would say that it is almost impossible to do accurately and scientifically which is why so many long term contracts to athletes signed at about age 30 turn out to be failures. The reason why is it is because he are talking here about genetics more than anything.

Perhaps when you have an athlete under contract you can administer tests that show speed and reaction time, build a baseline assessment, and measure how an athlete measures up to that year after year is possible. But for free agents, this would seem impossible to do. You don't have access to that kind of data. For us fans, all we have is eye-ball performance: trying to access what he see by seasonal performance year after year. If a guys stats deteriorate after age 30, more likely than not he is aging and how quickly he ages is genetic determined. Perhaps the only position he can measure somewhat scientifically is baseball pitcher. If a guy threw at 92 mph at age 28, 90 at age 30, and 88 at age 32 and is injury free, that is aging. But how do you do that in hockey? You can measure speed and reaction time, but only with your own guys.

So here we have BR, who was always one of my favorite non-Ranger players. BR always had the reputation of being the consummate professional: a gym rat totally dedicated to the game, and a guy who performed well even when he had a big contract. He was always just quick enough to maximize his A+ skills: superior hockey smarts, excellent on-ice vision, and the ability to make great tape-to-tape passes. Aging has cost him that quickness. He was not the same player last year as he was in Dallas. He is not the same player this year he was last year. What will the future bring? He may plateau and be able to perform at the same level he did this year in the future, or he very well may get worse. Why can some pitchers maintain their velocity well into their 30s and other can't? It's impossible to know because genetics determine all and it is impossible to measure.

As I said, I have always been a BR fan. I was absolutely for signing him although I had concerns about his concussion and his age. It was a gamble well worth taking and I certainly don't blame Sather for this. It has not worked out. The Rangers must buy him out this summer: this probably will only get worse if he is not bought out.

There are bigger lessons to be learned here. Perhaps we should never sign athletes at age 30 to long term free agent contracts because the gamble is just to great. We have been burned repeatedly by this: Drury, Redden, etc (although in Redden's case Sather seems to have ignored skuttlebutt that Redden's skills were going). Signing your own FA's is a different story because you may have access to that baseline testing that perhaps measures reaction time, speed, etc. Do we have enough info. to resign Clowe, another athlete who seems to be aging? I don't know. I almost rather sign guys were are 34 or 35 who seems to have plateaued in their skills: they are not what they once were but are still productive. We have had some success with those types of guys: Straka, Prospel, Federtenko, for example.

I feel for aging, proud guys like BR (I know some have no sympathy for guys making such ungodly money). No matter what he does, he can't perform how he once did. He does not have a regular job like most of us have or had, where physical performance is not the prime asset for the job. It is not even a question of strength which can be maintained well into one 40s and even 50s. It is a question of making muscles firing quickly and that is something that begins to go for everyone on the wrong side of 30. Until the day comes when he can somehow offset the genetic aging process without PEDs, this will always be a part of sports.

I love BR but this is a trainwreck what will only get worse. He must he bought out.
 
Brad Richards sat around during the lockout when he should have been playing. It shows he didn't care about staying in top GAME shape. When you're being paid $12 million to play hockey, hockey needs to be you're number 1 priority.

He's dead to me. A worthless entity with no skill, or balls. Giving him another year wouldn't be an option in my opinion.

Buy. Him. OUT.
 
Brad Richards sat around during the lockout when he should have been playing. It shows he didn't care about staying in top GAME shape. When you're being paid $12 million to play hockey, hockey needs to be you're number 1 priority.He's dead to me. A worthless entity with no skill, or balls. Giving him another year wouldn't be an option in my opinion.

Buy. Him. OUT.

i totally agree. he should have played during the lockout but made a very stupid descison to be lazy and do nothing.. some players even played in the ECHL during the lockout like Brandon Dubinsky.....
 
Richards needs to sit out game four. If he gets hurt we cannot amnesty him over the summer, which would be devastating. No reason for him to the in the lineup tomorrow night...we need to manage our assets properly.
 
As far as being in shape or not--it's not much of an excuse not being in best condition when the MO on the guy is he's the consummate professional. Personally I think it's decline more than anything and yeah that hit from Kaleta might have accelerated it. That being said when speaking of sentiment that really should be exclusively for fans--maybe players. Any team's front office--**** no. You won't win any championships if your ownership, GM and friends and coaching staff aren't capable of making tough decisions--some of which are when is it time to let this guy (fan favorite or not) go?

The facts in this case as I see it is better now than later. There's no way we can allow him to go past the point of our last amnesty buyout. We cannot afford to gamble with the the remaining 7 years of his contract from what we're seeing today. His shelf life is at best limited to one year. That in itself IMO drops his status from core player on this team. He has no real future with it. Maybe he'll regain some of his old pizzazz with somebody else--maybe he won't but the risks involved have become too high for us. He has to go. Not that hard a decision.
 
I have not been going thru this tread, but I remember that while he was in dallas allot of guys were expressing concern over the concussion he suffered towards the end of that year. Despite spurts of decent play and accumilating points at times, truthfully richards has never looked like the same player since, not here and not in dallas.

i've thought this as well. Despite a slow start last year, he really made some clutch plays. I have sympathy for the guy if he's going through personal or family issues but there's no way in the world he should be part of this roster playing like that. He looks like he's going through something major.

buyout. immediately.

question. Is there anyway his contract can be renegotiated? if he were to be traded, would there be any way possible the other team could incur the cap hit?
 
After the series, they will leak out a bs injury to explain why he was horrible, maybe Columbus wants him too
 
Brad Richards sat around during the lockout when he should have been playing. It shows he didn't care about staying in top GAME shape. When you're being paid $12 million to play hockey, hockey needs to be you're number 1 priority.

He's dead to me. A worthless entity with no skill, or balls. Giving him another year wouldn't be an option in my opinion.

Buy. Him. OUT.

To be fair stepan and a number of other player did not play during the lockout, difference is most all other players rounded back into form. I'm convinced the concussion in dallas has had long term affects on him
 
Last night I was watching some idiot freshman on the Morristown High School team, out there...then I realized it was Brad Richards.

He's that bad, and skills are that far gone. Buyout only option.
 
Maybe he is playing this way so he gets bought out ?

He wasn't that good last year, folks were starting to get on him as the season wore on. People cut him some slack as he got accustomed to playing in NY. He then had a pretty good playoffs and folks were like OK lets see how he is next year.

Well the CBA gave Richards and out as much as it gave the NYR an out. Perhaps he really just doesn't want to play here anymore. Instead of asking to be traded he figures he'll dog it and get bought out, he gets to keep most of his millions, and then he can go and play for whoever he wants.

He probably figured out that with Gabby's contract being up next season, Redden being bought out that he was definitely getting shipped out at some point as the organization wasn't going to keep his contract over the term. If so he was right, his play is only speeding up the process and maybe he is doing that by design. He knows he can't get traded with the contract he signed. If he gets bought out sooner, he gets more years to make more money with another team.
 
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