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Player Discussion Brad Marchand IV - CONFIRMED signed 8 years @ 6.125/yr

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BruinDust

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Buckets and Gloves said:
I think Brad can get 50 million over 7 years on open market, if not more.

I'd offer 50 million over 8 years tops
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A full million a year less than Krejci.

If Sweeney offered Brad that then Marchand should go tell him to kick rocks. Not even close to what his market value is. Almost insulting actually.
 
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Buckets and Gloves said:
Not bad... fair.

What DK got has little to do with what BM will get.

Giving 7 mill or more for 8 would be an error
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But 6.25 for 8 wouldn't be? A difference of 750k towards the cap.

Sound like nickel and dime stuff to me.

If there is any error it's the term not the AAV.
 
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BruinDust said:
What marketplace you operating in? 2013?

6.25 AAV for Marchand is an insult.
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I'm operating in reality. I would pay him 7M per year but to say that 8 years and 50M is an insult is crazy. Also, I'm not sure what the big deal would be with him being paid less than Krejci? In reality Krejci plays a bigger role than Marchand on this team and he also puts up more points than him. When you add that extra year it's going to bring down the AAV.
 
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patty59 said:
I'm operating in reality. I would pay him 7M per year but to say that 8 years and 50M is an insult is crazy. Also, I'm not sure what the big deal would be with him being paid less than Krejci? In reality Krejci plays a bigger role than Marchand on this team and he also puts up more points than him. When you add that extra year it's going to bring down the AAV.
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No sorry but your not.

Has nothing to do with Bergeron's contract, or Krejci's contract to be honest.

Go look at today's marketplace, specifically contracts recently signed.

Jonathan Toews gets 10.5 AAV

Jamie Benn is about to get 9.5

So somehow Marchand should settle for 32% less than Benn.

And 38% less than Toews.

Yes they are more accomplished players if your paying for past performance.

The reality is Marchand's goal totals weren't all that far off Benn's.

And he's contributing just as much to Team Canada as Toews is.

Maybe 6.25 isn't insulting, but it's at the very least borderline insulting in today's marketplace. That's the reality the Bruins are operating in, clearly different from yours.
 
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BruinDust said:
No sorry but your not.

Has nothing to do with Bergeron's contract, or Krejci's contract to be honest.

Go look at today's marketplace, specifically contracts recently signed.

Jonathan Toews gets 10.5 AAV

Jamie Benn is about to get 9.5

So somehow Marchand should settle for 32% less than Benn.

And 38% less than Toews.

Yes they are more accomplished players if your paying for past performance.

The reality is Marchand's goal totals weren't all that far off Benn's.

And he's contributing just as much to Team Canada as Toews is.

Maybe 6.25 isn't insulting, but it's at the very least borderline insulting in today's marketplace. That's the reality the Bruins are operating in, clearly different from yours.
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Those are 2 interesting comps. Benn is a 80-90 its Art Ross winner and captain of his team and Toews has 2 Cups, a Selke, a Conn Smythe and is also the captain of his team(also overpaid by about 1.5M).

I love Marchand as much as anyone and think he should come in at 7x7, which is still 30ish% less than those 2 guys, would that be a slap in the face, or insulting?

Do you pay Marchand 9-10M??

And you're the one that brought up Krejci's contract and that somehow being paid less than him was out of the question.
 
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patty59 said:
Those are 2 interesting comps. Benn is a 80-90 its Art Ross winner and captain of his team and Toews has 2 Cups, a Selke, a Conn Smythe and is also the captain of his team(also overpaid by about 1.5M).

I love Marchand as much as anyone and think he should come in at 7x7, which is still 30ish% less than those 2 guys, would that be a slap in the face, or insulting?

Do you pay Marchand 9-10M??

And you're the one that brought up Krejci's contract and that somehow being paid less than him was out of the question.
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Yes I realize I brought up Krejci.

Yes those are interesting comps, I didn't say he should get Benn or Toews money. But you look at what they get, how can you even look at Marchand and offer him significantly less.

7 x 7 is the absolute bottom line IMO, that I can see Marchand accepting. It's a home-town discount if there ever was one.

I could throw out a pile of comparables, whether it be Benn, Toews, Bergeron, Krejci, Tarasenko, etc. etc. with a multitude of variables (i.e. when the contract was signed, what the cap was when it was signed, etc.), but all signs point to the AAV starting with no less than 7. Look at what Gaudreau is after, reports are it's in the 8 million range. I don't know if he gets it but that the marketplace the Bruins are operating in.

Personally I think he comes in at 7.5 AAV over 8 seasons if he wants market value. Far cry from 6.25 (about a 6 million difference, which is huge).
 
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I'm figuring that Marchand is at the top of his game right now. And lucky for him he's about to cash in. I don't see him putting up 30 goal seasons for the life of his next contract. I could see him putting 30+ goals for maybe the next few years and then declining back to a 20-25 goal scorer. He's a goal scorer and we need one. So pay him.

Benn got 9.5 mil but also puts up 85 pts a year. Marchand's career high is last yrs 60pts and usually averages 50 pts. You gotta pay the price for goal scorers but hopefully by the end of his contract he's not regressing back to 20g-20a-40pts @7mil a year.
 
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BruinDust said:
No sorry but your not.

Has nothing to do with Bergeron's contract, or Krejci's contract to be honest.

Go look at today's marketplace, specifically contracts recently signed.

Jonathan Toews gets 10.5 AAV

Jamie Benn is about to get 9.5

So somehow Marchand should settle for 32% less than Benn.

And 38% less than Toews.

Yes they are more accomplished players if your paying for past performance.

The reality is Marchand's goal totals weren't all that far off Benn's.

And he's contributing just as much to Team Canada as Toews is.

Maybe 6.25 isn't insulting, but it's at the very least borderline insulting in today's marketplace. That's the reality the Bruins are operating in, clearly different from yours.
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The market was set this past summer at 7/42 for a top line UFA winger. This summer it will climb I would think, so 7/49 should be more than acceptable for both parties.

Keep in mind Marchand has been crap in the play-offs after the Stanley Cup run as well. Everyone screamed about 1 in 22, while Marchand's 5 in 41 is pretty pathetic as well.
 
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**** I'd be extremely happy with that. 7.5x7 wouldn't even piss me off honestly... He's not only a core member but the front office isn't going to let him leave he brings in fans. Plus don't piss bergy off and let his buddy walk.
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They better not let him leave. Time to stop the bleeding finally.
 
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