RDS: Bouillon coming back ?

[Moen is Gone]

I really thought I wouldn't need this one this summer:

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

Heck i am just trying to remind how of a warrior cube is. Who cares if he's the 8th defencemen? He is not nearly as bad as people on this board believe.

What's your definition of warrior?

He was very, very bad in the final stretch and playoffs - arguably worse than Murray. Why would any team want him?

 

[Shadow Journal]

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/sur-le-chemin-du-retour-1.1328308

As a 7th D.

Tinordi or Beaulieu will be here full time and Bouillon to play 20-30 games a year is not bad, I guess.

 

[MauriceTheGreat*]

What's your definition of warrior?

He was very, very bad in the final stretch and playoffs - arguably worse than Murray. Why would any team want him?

I would bet you wont see him in the playoffs, unless we have a injuried D but he will there for the youngsters.

 

[habsfanatics*]

The problem with Bouillon has never been the player, but his usage. He's fine as a #7-#8 depth guy, but MT is way too attached to him. When he does get inserted into the lineup, MT over-extends his usage and importance.

He's been a good soldier, but I'd rather move away so that I don't have to see MT insert him in the lineup and lean on him when he shouldn't.

I agree, he's a pretty good insurance policy if that's all that he is, but we know, slowly, but surely MT will have him playing everyday, I think we need to move on.

 

[Brainiac]

A vet yes but we all know Therrien loves him he'll get more play time that what he deserves. I'd take McBain. Morris, Salo or Delzotto before the cube.

Agreed.

No problem with Bouillon per se. He could probably help a team somewhere that needs a veteran presence.

I'd say Bouillon is good for 20 games max. while playing 10-12 min. per game max. Only way he's not a liability.

Do we need that? No. Will Therrien use him that way? No.

So the answer is NO!!

 

[MXD]

We could do worse than Bouillon, but if we're to get a 7th D-Men for limited purposes, I'd rather like the team to sign somebody like Sheldon Brookbank, or somebody in that role. Definitely better than Komisarek (not an NHL'er anymore) though.

Bouillon is good for 12-to-13 minutes with very sporadic minutes on the penalty kill should another D-Men is the one getting penalized, for something like 30 games a year. Exactly the stuff of a 7th D-Men.

But everybody knows he'll average 16-17 mins for 50+ games if back.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

I would bet you wont see him in the playoffs, unless we have a injuried D but he will there for the youngsters.

I'm trying to find out what you mean by "he'll be there for the youngsters". What will he do, in what capacity will he help our top6, on-ice skaters?

He was never, ever in his career known for his IQ, positioning or defensive awareness. He relied on his agility and endurance and low centre of gravity more than anything. So how can he impart ANY wisdom onto our youngsters?

If we want depth why shouldn't we look at better options? I mean, in case of injuries in the playoffs I'd rather have Komisarek or MDZ or Derek Morris or Sami Salo (actually he'd be great) or Jovonovski or Klesla than Bouillon.

 

[habsfanatics*]

I'm trying to find out what you mean by "he'll be there for the youngsters". What will he do, in what capacity will he help our top6, on-ice skaters?

He was never, ever in his career known for his IQ, positioning or defensive awareness. He relied on his agility and endurance and low centre of gravity more than anything. So how can he impart ANY wisdom onto our youngsters?

If we want depth why shouldn't we look at better options? I mean, in case of injuries in the playoffs I'd rather have Komisarek or MDZ or Derek Morris or Sami Salo (actually he'd be great) or Jovonovski or Klesla than Bouillon.

How to carry themselves and embrace the culture in Montreal?

 

[MauriceTheGreat*]

I'm trying to find out what you mean by "he'll be there for the youngsters". What will he do, in what capacity will he help our top6, on-ice skaters?

He was never, ever in his career known for his IQ, positioning or defensive awareness. He relied on his agility and endurance and low centre of gravity more than anything. So how can he impart ANY wisdom onto our youngsters?

If we want depth why shouldn't we look at better options? I mean, in case of injuries in the playoffs I'd rather have Komisarek or MDZ or Derek Morris or Sami Salo (actually he'd be great) or Jovonovski or Klesla than Bouillon.

Well, yes we should, but seem we wont. And i dont see the huge deal there. Lot of people on hfboards seem crazy to me, hes a veterant and yes he's gonna be there for the youngsters, what else? MB said next year the youth is gonna play a lot more, now if cube start the year as the 6th D I would totally feel the rage.

 

[Milhouse40]

As long as Therrien use him a 7-8th D i've got no trouble with that....i just donT wanna see him near the PP...

But then again....we got better options down the pipe.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

How to carry themselves and embrace the culture in Montreal?

We have backroom personnel, both retired NHLers and non-players, and a team full of experience players to do that, we don't need to sign Bouillon at 800k for such purposes. And besides, Bouillon was treated differently because he spoke French and has Quebecois ancestry, a Czech or Russian player won't have much to gain from Bouillon's "experience".

There is absolutely no need for Francois Bouillon on the squad, from 28th D and dead last in the depth chart to starting the 2nd PP in the 3rd round of the playoffs (oh wait.) - Francois Bouillon doesn't fit.

 

[Saint Patrick]

As long as Therrien use him a 7-8th D i've got no trouble with that....i just donT wanna see him near the PP...

But then again....we got better options down the pipe.

Cant wait to see him on the pp again.

 

[Cole Caulifield]

They are, provided Therrien is told Bouillon is the 7th defenseman. In fact, Bergevin should put that in the contract and stipulate he can only play ahead of Beaulieu or Tinordi if we have two injuries and we are that desperate. He is also banned from ever playing with Subban even if the alternative is to play Subban by himself.

Anything else is a fireable offense!

Hehe, I think it would be something close to that.

Hopefully.

When the news of Subban signing hit us and I saw we had 2.5M in cap room, I knew this was coming.

 

[overlords]

How to carry themselves and embrace the culture in Montreal?

Oh yeah, he'll do that on the ice?

 

[Cole Caulifield]

Like I said, it could mean he would be the 8th D and Sekac begins his season in the AHL.

Truth is, we should go with 7D. Whoever out of Beaulieu and Tinordi isn't playing regular minutes should be playing in the AHL and not warm the bench. Use Bouillon in a warm the bench role.

 

[MauriceTheGreat*]

We have backroom personnel, both retired NHLers and non-players, and a team full of experience players to do that, we don't need to sign Bouillon at 800k for such purposes. And besides, Bouillon was treated differently because he spoke French and has Quebecois ancestry, a Czech or Russian player won't have much to gain from Bouillon's "experience".

There is absolutely no need for Francois Bouillon on the squad, from 28th D and dead last in the depth chart to starting the 2nd PP in the 3rd round of the playoffs (oh wait.) - Francois Bouillon doesn't fit.

He absolutely wont be hampering the squad if used properly either.

 

[overlords]

Truth is, we should go with 7D. Whoever out of Beaulieu and Tinordi isn't playing regular minutes should be playing in the AHL and not warm the bench. Use Bouillon in a warm the bench role.

Was hoping to use that spot for Nygren.

He absolutely wont be hampering the squad if used properly either.

He absolutely won't hamper us if used properly because using Bouillon properly would imply never dressing him.

 

[HABsurde]

God and Bergie, MAKE IT SO !!!

WE NEED CUBE !!!! SO MUCH !!!!

Our second PP unit will now be fine !

Seriously, if you send back two of Beaulieu, Pateryn or Tinordi who are not going to play regular in Hamilton and Francis agrees to 1 year, league minimum (550 000 i think) I can live with that (also if from the get go, it's being made clear to him that he is last on the depth chart)

If not, no way jose.... Frankie's time is gone, he needs to understands it....

 

[Mario Lemieux fan 66]

Truth is, we should go with 7D. Whoever out of Beaulieu and Tinordi isn't playing regular minutes should be playing in the AHL and not warm the bench. Use Bouillon in a warm the bench role.

Why do you need 7th d-men ? If one is injure you call one up from Hamilton.

 

[HABitual Fan]

Only if he changes his number from 55 to 22 and only plays against Boston

 

[habamillions]

well we do need a captain........

 

[Brainiac]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the reason why I wouldn't have been upset had PK got an 11.6M AAV on his new contract.

 

[JLP]

RDS trolling HF

 

[Cole Caulifield]

Was hoping to use that spot for Nygren.

Wouldn't that be rewarding Nygren for bailing ?

I'm all for giving him a spot if he earns it but.. I don't know.