Post-Game Talk: Boourns.. Jets lose to the Bruins 5-4

[gojetsgo]

I think he’s great not elite. No one is saying he sucks we are just annoyed he is not top 5 at his position and is more in line with other great players on our team. Ppl still using age are we only stopping using that after he’s 25 and in his prime?

we **** on everyone I’m less annoyed with Roslo turning out to be only a 3rd liner than Laine because of all the hype surrounding him.

people are still using age because hes is 21.... most players don't break out until they are around 23, just look at sheif and Mackinnon

 

[Adam da bomb]

people are still using age because hes is 21.... most players don't break out until they are around 23, just look at sheif and Mackinnon

Okay so after 23 ppl will no longer mention his age good.

 

[Guardian17]

Well, Colleen was disappointed that we lost.

Especially how we had the lead in the third and gave up 2 goals on 2 really bad plays.

But, she understands it was three games in four nights and accepts our apology!

 

[DRW204]

Okay so after 23 ppl will no longer mention his age good.

I was told he would be surpassing or equal Ovies rookie year last season since they'd be the same age lol.

 

[DRW204]

Laine's now a solid defensive player who has added some other layers to his game. Imo this is the foundation and he will keep adding onto it and imo will get back to being that dangerous goal scorer.

It's Connors game I'm more concerned about. Deadly offensively but his d game is still a hot mess as are his breakouts. It's funny that he is the one skilled winger Maurice doesn't hold to task.

KC is no worse than Laine defensively. KC can produce better offensively though.

 

[DRW204]

I think he’s great not elite. No one is saying he sucks we are just annoyed he is not top 5 at his position and is more in line with other great players on our team. Ppl still using age are we only stopping using that after he’s 25 and in his prime?

we **** on everyone I’m less annoyed with Roslo turning out to be only a 3rd liner than Laine because of all the hype surrounding him.

He has improved his scoring totals this year. On pace for this best year points wise. The shot has regressed tho. Sh% of 18% the first two years but now its at 11.7%. Still a good number but definitely not at the level it was. He's no Matthews or scheifele

 

[LowLefty]

I didn't stop him when Laine was the Jets best goal scorer. Just saying. Ehlers works hard but finds himself in the dog house more often as well.

As for what he should do about it, I'm not sure. Maybe switch him and Ehelers on the kill so that he's not run and hard and get him to concentrate more on his d play in his end.

Laine was scoring but he wasn't working half as hard as KC does night in night out - it likely cost him his spot on that top line for reasons beyond scoring goals - I won't get into that because it causes a lot of hurt on this board and it's been covered to death.

Ehlers was never in the dog house IMO - he was simply moved to a line where he might be a better fit - back in that day, Wheels and Scheif played a cycle game and Ehlers did not (and KC did).

I have no problem taking Connor of the PK - that decision will not be a game changer.

 

[Adam da bomb]

He has improved his scoring totals this year. On pace for this best year points wise. The shot has regressed tho. Sh% of 18% the first two years but now its at 11.7%. Still a good number but definitely not at the level it was.

He is great. My expectations based on hype and draft position maybe unfair but I expected him to be competing and in line for 11 min next year and playing like it.

 

[DRW204]

He is great. My expectations based on hype and draft position maybe unfair but I expected him to be competing and in line for 11 min next year and playing like it.

Yeah when he publicly says he should have went first overall the expectations will follow.

 

[surixon]

The law of diminishing returns could also be in play here. The top line is full of three super talented players and there is only one puck to go around. Both Schiefele and Connor both really like to have the puck on their stick which often results in Laine being the default F3 in the zone which doesn't open him up for some of the dangerous looks near the net that the line creates.

I wonder if we may not see Maurice go to a three good line scheme when Little is back. He has already sort of started to balance things out a bit with Copp on Wheelers line.

 

[surixon]

Yeah when he publicly says he should have went first overall the expectations will follow.

Well they all seem to say that when asked. Echiel, Seguin, Laine, Kakko etc....

 

[gojetsgo]

Well they all seem to say that when asked. Echiel, Seguin, Laine, Kakko etc....

and if they answered no then you would hear that they don't have the drive/will to be the best. damn if you do damn if you don't I guess

 

[DRW204]

Well they all seem to say that when asked. Echiel, Seguin, Laine, Kakko etc....

Seguin arguably backed it up. Would like to see your eichel reference. No problem if they back it up

 

[LowLefty]

KC is no worse than Laine defensively. KC can produce better offensively though.

KC takes a lot of heat for his D game - mainly because he's not effective in getting much going from a stand still, especially off the boards where there is no where to go and no one to pass to. He isn't going to pick up those dumps and take off when he's got a D man all over him. He doesn't have the size or physical game to do that - maybe someday but I won't hold my breadth.

Throwing the puck around the boards to KC's wing is pretty much a waste of time - same goes for Laine's wing.
If we had a D group that could generate any kind of outlet what so ever, both players would benefit - but we don't so we expect these guys to be good at covering up for our weak exit system (or total lack of).

Both are O players with differing O strengths - Laine's is shooting - so shoot the puck. KC's is generating scoring changes in tight - so that's what he does - successfully.

 

[gojetsgo]

Seguin arguably backed it up. Would like to see your eichel reference. No problem if they back it up

nobody is going to say they don't think they should go 1st overall, holding it against them is ridiculous

 

[surixon]

Seguin arguably backed it up. Would like to see your eichel reference. No problem if they back it up

Sabres GM: Jack Eichel told team he'll be better than Connor McDavid

 

[surixon]

KC takes a lot of heat for his D game - mainly because he's not effective in getting much going from a stand still, especially off the boards where there is no where to go and no one to pass to. He isn't going to pick up those dumps and take off when he's got a D man all over him. He doesn't have the size or physical game to do that - maybe someday but I won't hold my breadth.

Throwing the puck around the boards to KC's wing is pretty much a waste of time - same goes for Laine's wing.
If we had a D group that could generate any kind of outlet what so ever, both players would benefit - but we don't so we expect these guys to be good at covering up for our weak exit system (or total lack of).

Both are O players with differing O strengths - Laine's is shooting - so shoot the puck. KC's is generating scoring changes in tight - so that's what he does - successfully.

I've found Laine to be pretty competent on the boards this year. I do agree that we need a better breakout system that has the players in motion as they leave the zone.

 

[DRW204]

KC takes a lot of heat for his D game - mainly because he's not effective in getting much going from a stand still, especially off the boards where there is no where to go and no one to pass to. He isn't going to pick up those dumps and take off when he's got a D man all over him. He doesn't have the size or physical game to do that - maybe someday but I won't hold my breadth.

Throwing the puck around the boards to KC's wing is pretty much a waste of time - same goes for Laine's wing.
If we had a D group that could generate any kind of outlet what so ever, both players would benefit - but we don't so we expect these guys to be good at covering up for our weak exit system (or total lack of).

Both are O players with differing O strengths - Laine's is shooting - so shoot the puck. KC's is generating scoring changes in tight - so that's what he does - successfully.

KC Imo positonally is pretty inconsistent and is a bit prone to fleeing the zone early. Laine has been the king of ineffective fly bys and i find his dzone exits quite weak. Imo you're splitting hairs with who's better or worse defensively between those two. Scheifele is inconsistent himself, however, he's shown in spurts this year he could be a great 2-way c this season, and of course he was very good prior to last season. That whole top line is no good defensively Imo

 

[LowLefty]

The law of diminishing returns could also be in play here. The top line is full of three super talented players and there is only one puck to go around. Both Schiefele and Connor both really like to have the puck on their stick which often results in Laine being the default F3 in the zone which doesn't open him up for some of the dangerous looks near the net that the line creates.

I wonder if we may not see Maurice go to a three good line scheme when Little is back. He has already sort of started to balance things out a bit with Copp on Wheelers line.

You might be onto something - maybe there is a serious shuffle coming -
But, I also see Laine as being a decent fit on this line - he may need to play a little lower to make himself available for a quick pass from behind the net or out of a cycle - bottom line is he needs to put himself in a position to take a pass and shoot the puck.

 

[DRW204]

Sabres GM: Jack Eichel told team he'll be better than Connor McDavid

That's not eichel saying that publicly. If you say something like that publicly the expectation will be on you.

 

[rubikscube]

That isn’t Laine’s motivation anymore. The coach has made it clear that he should become a defensive power forward who can chip in offensively. Laine is becoming what Maurice has moulded him to become.

I don't like saying this, but you truly have no idea what you're talking about.
The Laine crusade needs to stop.
You don't know what he's been told as much as anyone else here.
Laine is playing fine this year, but he's not playing good enough for a guy of his apparent caliber and its not Maurices fault.

Let it go already

 

[kanadalainen]

@Ginger Papa - Burner account? I hardly have enough time to populate my own account.

That thought has crossed my mind as well

Hey... woah... don't look at me. I have literally no urge to shout at boards men and women. Sadly I'm not even a person with links to Finnish genetics, despite my affection for racing small powerful cars through deep snow. I have one account - dedicated to sousing y'all with .... well you know.

- Kind regards,

Kanadalainen

 

[Duke749]

The law of diminishing returns could also be in play here. The top line is full of three super talented players and there is only one puck to go around. Both Schiefele and Connor both really like to have the puck on their stick which often results in Laine being the default F3 in the zone which doesn't open him up for some of the dangerous looks near the net that the line creates.

I wonder if we may not see Maurice go to a three good line scheme when Little is back. He has already sort of started to balance things out a bit with Copp on Wheelers line.

Yeh I feel there may be a change soon. Things feel a bit stale.

Also, Sbisa is a freakin pylon and that line change was a joke.

 

[tntkid]

What defensive system is Maurice even running giving up 40 shots again and hanging the goalie out to dry night after night.

Our team is scoring but can not keep the puck out of the our net.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Well, Colleen was disappointed that we lost.

Especially how we had the lead in the third and gave up 2 goals on 2 really bad plays.

But, she understands it was three games in four nights and accepts our apology!

I think Colleen should go from special guest appearance to series regular in the GDT's.