Post-Game Talk: Boourns.. Jets lose to the Bruins 5-4

[avgard]

but this let me saying one thing more. alright i did not Watch much todays game also. i still know this team. thing i want to take up is one example of my talks; yesterdays 2-1 situation with O'Connor and laine. i Watch it and Think ...oh yeah..here is something weird coming up again….AND YEAH! insted of passing it to laine he O'Connor letting puck to sheifele….WHO OF COURSE SHOOTS THE PUCK VERY VERY HAPPILY HIMSELF AND HE DID. WHY? BEAcause laine not getting a Point at this situation. only O'Connor and sheifele and maybe a dfender? i dont remember. how does this hurt laine seeing and being in this? and all the last games laine being exceptional out of game,.,,,... these dudes setting more hurt to situation and im sure enjoying it. this happen even at this level. players that are not liked. players that to be jealous to.

all lines coming in these 2-1, 3-1 situation pass quickly puck around coming upwards field so everyboty getting Point. but as saying there is something going on with many boys against laine at this team. this is sick. i feel this. my opinion. thats why im saying laine must play for himself. not pass...do all hiimself. this team is a joke. not a team that can winning anything.

sir avgard hockeyprofessor

 

[PhilJets]

What do we want him to do?

He is the 3rd wheel in the top line...

He is not being use like

Matthews now
Or Pastrnk
Ovie

He is also not the 1st option in the power play anymore.

This is what they did to Scheifele before.


The young man is doing his best.

It can be frustrating but he is playing to the system.

Laine is missing something.

15 or so goals, I'd say

The net

 

[Adam da bomb]

What do we eant him to do?

He is the 3rd wheel in the top line...

He is not being use like

Matthews now
Or Pastrnk
Ovie

He is also not the 1st option in the power play anymore.

This is what they did to Scheifele before.


The young man is doing his best.

It can be frustrating but he is playing to the system.

There’s always an excuse it’s never just he’s just not as good lower your expectations and you’ll be happier. Bro made some big saves.

 

[LowLefty]

Earlier this year I'd agree with you but Laine wasn't doing any favors to get open tonight. KC was great tonight with the puck on his stick, Laine not so much.

KC goes to the net and shoots when he get the opportunity.
Laine used to shoot but has backed off - he's taking it to the point where he is over thinking things - he's done that before so I hope he snaps out of it.

His first instinct now appears to be the pass - that needs to change or he will never be the shooter he once was.
He's shown himself and the team, that he can makes plays - but he's over doing it, possibly to send a message to is lines mates (Scheif).

Well, message has been sent and delivered - time to get back to firing pucks when the opportunity presents - that's might be all he needs to get that shot back on track.
Maybe he needs to talk to his little buddy Ehlers - that guy shoots from everywhere and it certainly hasn't hurt his game.

 

[gojetsgo]

but this let me saying one thing more. alright i did not Watch much todays game also. i still know this team. thing i want to take up is one example of my talks; yesterdays 2-1 situation with O'Connor and laine. i Watch it and Think ...oh yeah..here is something weird coming up again….AND YEAH! insted of passing it to laine he O'Connor letting puck to sheifele….WHO OF COURSE SHOOTS THE PUCK VERY VERY HAPPILY HIMSELF AND HE DID. WHY? BEAcause laine not getting a Point at this situation. only O'Connor and sheifele and maybe a dfender? i dont remember. how does this hurt laine seeing and being in this? and all the last games laine being exceptional out of game,.,,,... these dudes setting more hurt to situation and im sure enjoying it. this happen even at this level. players that are not liked. players that to be jealous to.

all lines coming in these 2-1, 3-1 situation pass quickly puck around coming upwards field so everyboty getting Point. but as saying there is something going on with many boys against laine at this team. this is sick. i feel this. my opinion.

sir avgard hockeyprofessor

serious question, why are troll accounts allowed? maybe it was funny at first but I think it's past that point now...

 

[Ducky10]

GWG scored off a faceoff win ... 2 goals by the Bruins on faceoff wins but lets talk about the Corsi.

Being ignorant doesn’t help make your point.

 

[surixon]

I'm a bigger fan of Laine's then ever before. I just find it annoying when people argue developing a defensive game isn't important. Being good in both ends is what he needs to do to be great.

Laine's now a solid defensive player who has added some other layers to his game. Imo this is the foundation and he will keep adding onto it and imo will get back to being that dangerous goal scorer.

It's Connors game I'm more concerned about. Deadly offensively but his d game is still a hot mess as are his breakouts. It's funny that he is the one skilled winger Maurice doesn't hold to task.

 

[jefferoni]

 

[jefferoni]

 

[GNP]

I thought Kulikov played really well tonight. It's good to see, as we need some stability on defense going into the stretch run.

 

[DRW204]

KC goes to the net and shoots when he get the opportunity.
Laine used to shoot but has backed off - he's taking it to the point where he is over thinking things - he's done that before so I hope he snaps out of it.

His first instinct now appears to be the pass - that needs to change or he will never be the shooter he once was.
He's shown himself and the team, that he can makes plays - but he's over doing it, possibly to send a message to is lines mates (Scheif).

Well, message has been sent and delivered - time to get back to firing pucks when the opportunity presents - that's might be all he needs to get that shot back on track.
Maybe he needs to talk to his little buddy Ehlers - that guy shoots from everywhere and it certainly hasn't hurt his game.

He's on pace to get his highest SOGs this year but His shooting efficiency is way down. 18% sh% the first two years and 11.7% the next 1.5 years.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Laine's now a solid defensive player who has added some other layers to his game. Imo this is the foundation and he will keep adding onto it and imo will get back to being that dangerous goal scorer.

It's Connors game I'm more concerned about. Deadly offensively but his d game is still a hot mess as are his breakouts. It's funny that he is the one skilled winger Maurice doesn't hold to task.

Laine is a great player just not one of the top 5 in his position which is a bit disappointing.

 

[Ducky10]

He has focussed entirely on being responsible defensively so that he can gain Maurice’s ongoing trust. He does not want to go back to being paired with Little when he returns (I am sure Little feels the same way). He has become what Maurice has demanded that he become-a defensive power forward who can score occasionally.

Nah, this is making excuses for him. He needs to take the game by the balls more, like KC and Ehlers do. The team plays more defensively, no doubt, but there are things he can still be doing to open himself up and make things happen. He was doing them in the first 1/3rd of the season. Everything just can’t be handed to the guy, like other players he needs to make some things happen himself.

 

[KingBogo]

Laine's now a solid defensive player who has added some other layers to his game. Imo this is the foundation and he will keep adding onto it and imo will get back to being that dangerous goal scorer.

It's Connors game I'm more concerned about. Deadly offensively but his d game is still a hot mess as are his breakouts. It's funny that he is the one skilled winger Maurice doesn't hold to task.

The next/last thing Laine needs to add to his game is a quicker first couple steps. If he can create separation like Ehlers or Scheifele from a stand still he will add a whole other level to his game. At this point he just can't seem to get going quick enough, once he hits his stride he has more than enough speed.

 

[surixon]

Quick thoughts...
81-55-29 Connor with a great game, torturing the Bruins for passing on him 3 times in the draft. Scheifele was good, too. Laine just looked like he had no legs.

27-26-9 Not a great game. Copp was better. Ehlers was peripheral. Wheeler want at the top of his game. Fatigue was an issue.

85-17-28 You'd think giving Lowry a couple of quick and talented wingers would work better, but Perreault was incredibly bad again. He deserved being relegated to the 4th line. Bourque isn't much better, but he was at least trying.

57-21-82 Nice game from Appleton. Shore was okay. Bourque is just a filler type.

44-3 This pairing just has to be better. They had bad positioning and spacing. They can both be good, but maybe just need different partners. I would try Pionk with Morrissey and Poolman with Kulikov.

5-4 Sbisa is just awful. Pionk was again called on to salvage this pair.

2-7 Kulikov was okay. He adds a bit of aggressiveness. Bitetto just isn't good enough.

Brossoit was mediocre. He had a lot of shots, but also didn't seem sharp.

Interesting analysis, I thought Morrissey's spacing was much better tonight then it has been and did a good job denying the zone or forcing dump ins. His puck management was also much better. Poolman was a hot mess though but even still they sawed off their matchups shot share wise.

 

[Ducky10]

It was a great road game all things considered. Kept the game tight and led late in the 3rd. Unfortunately mistakes are more likely to happen on a b2b and 4 in 6 run of games.
Can’t question the effort, just a bit of the execution. Against a good team like that, that’s going to be the difference most nights.

 

[LowLefty]

Laine's now a solid defensive player who has added some other layers to his game. Imo this is the foundation and he will keep adding onto it and imo will get back to being that dangerous goal scorer.

It's Connors game I'm more concerned about. Deadly offensively but his d game is still a hot mess as are his breakouts. It's funny that he is the one skilled winger Maurice doesn't hold to task.

Yes, he needs to be better defensively - so do a lot of our forwards.
I'd be more concerned if he was lazy, no hussle, didn't fore check and was unable to play a board game - that would tell me he's nothing but a goal scorer.

What do you want Mo to do with his best goal scorer - bench him or demote him?
One thing you should have figured out by now - Mo does not bench or demote his hardest working players, especially when they are scoring.

 

[PhilJets]

There’s always an excuse it’s never just he’s just not as good lower your expectations and you’ll be happier. Bro made some big saves.

Lol

Not as good.

Its not even an excuse.

Its a reality and a fact.

They used Schiefele the same way before , before they let him loose.

Find me a Jet beside Dale Hawerchuk who has done what he has done before age 22?

You stop finding excuse on trying to downplay him and other key players on the team.

Nevermind.
I was told i was not a Jet fan before


People where saying Scheifele sucked before
Helly sucked

I expect him to get to 70 to 80 points this year.

 

[surixon]

KC goes to the net and shoots when he get the opportunity.
Laine used to shoot but has backed off - he's taking it to the point where he is over thinking things - he's done that before so I hope he snaps out of it.

His first instinct now appears to be the pass - that needs to change or he will never be the shooter he once was.
He's shown himself and the team, that he can makes plays - but he's over doing it, possibly to send a message to is lines mates (Scheif).

Well, message has been sent and delivered - time to get back to firing pucks when the opportunity presents - that's might be all he needs to get that shot back on track.
Maybe he needs to talk to his little buddy Ehlers - that guy shoots from everywhere and it certainly hasn't hurt his game.

Yeah I think it's mostly in his head right now. He seemed to take the selfish sentiment maybe a bit too much to heart. Needs to push the needle back a bit more the other way and find the right balance.

 

[Ducky10]

Interesting analysis, I thought Morrissey's spacing was much better tonight then it has been and did a good job denying the zone or forcing dump ins. His puck management was also much better. Poolman was a hot mess though but even still they sawed off their matchups shot share wise.

Agreed, if there is an issue with spacing it largely falls on Poolman, he’s all over the ice at times and it results in him not being a proper outlet quite often. He’s been great given the task he’s been given, but his processing at the speed he’s being asked to process with his matchups, takes everything he’s got.
I thought JoMo played one of his better games lately.

 

[JetsFan815]

The better team won. The only reason the Jets were even in the game was because of questionable goaltending by Halak. They are not going anywhere.

Sami Niku is done as a Jet. Maurice prefers Bitetto and an injured Sbisa over him. He's probably not getting into the lineup next season without injuries either as Chevy will most likely sign a couple of better d-men than Bitetto and Sbisa.

 

[surixon]

Yes, he needs to be better defensively - so do a lot of our forwards.
I'd be more concerned if he was lazy, no hussle, didn't fore check and was unable to play a board game - that would tell me he's nothing but a goal scorer.

What do you want Mo to do with his best goal scorer - bench him or demote him?
One thing you should have figured out by now - Mo does not bench or demote his hardest working players, especially when they are scoring.

I didn't stop him when Laine was the Jets best goal scorer. Just saying. Ehlers works hard but finds himself in the dog house more often as well.

As for what he should do about it, I'm not sure. Maybe switch him and Ehelers on the kill so that he's not run and hard and get him to concentrate more on his d play in his end.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Lol

Not as good.

Its not even an excuse.

Its a reality and a fact.

They used Schiefele the same way before , before they let him loose.

Find me a Jet beside Dale Hawerchuk who has done what he has done before age 22?

You stop finding excuse on trying to downplay him and other key players on the team.

Nevermind.
I was told i was not a Jet fan before


People where saying Scheifele sucked before
Helly sucked

I expect him to get to 70 to 80 points this year.

I think he’s great not elite. No one is saying he sucks we are just annoyed he is not top 5 at his position and is more in line with other great players on our team. Ppl still using age are we only stopping using that after he’s 25 and in his prime?

we shit on everyone I’m less annoyed with Roslo turning out to be only a 3rd liner than Laine because of all the hype surrounding him.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Good road trip or not, this was a game they should have won considering we had the lead halfway through the third period.

 

[GNP]

The next/last thing Laine needs to add to his game is a quicker first couple steps. If he can create separation like Ehlers or Scheifele from a stand still he will add a whole other level to his game. At this point he just can't seem to get going quick enough, once he hits his stride he has more than enough speed.

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I don't know if you can develop your burst speed, as I think it's more natural, but hopefully I'm wrong. If Laine can do that somehow, it will really improve his game. Those first 2-3 steps are critical, and right now, he's getting left in the dust by the faster forwards.

His top end speed is good though --it's just those first 3-4 steps that are very slow. Hopefully somehow he can work on that.