Value of: Boeser to Colorado

[Nucklehead Supreme]

yeah but acknowledging that doesn't allow the poster to continue being a prick

 

[PAZ]

Obviously its not worth the discussion because Boeser is far better than Bura and if you aren't looking at how a player will progress and develop its very short sighted and pointless discussion anyway.
Bura - yr 1 - 0.42 ppg / 0.16 gpg
yr 2 - 0.48 ppg / 0.22 gpg
yr 3 - 0.54 ppg / 0.19 gpg
yr 4 - 0.44 ppg / 0.21 gpg
yr 5 - 0.32 ppg / 0.16 gpg

Boeser - yr 1 - 0.56 ppg / 0.44 gpg
yr 2 - 0.89 ppg / 0.47 gpg
yr 3 - 0.81 ppg / 0.38 gpg
yr 4 - 0.79 ppg / 0.28 gpg
yr 5 - 0.88 ppg / 0.41 gpg

I will take Boeser and what he has accomplished 10 times out of 10 to call him a marginal upgrade is ignorant.

Lol, I enjoy how you keep on using Bura's worst 5 years. The point is the past 2+ years they've had identical production, and thank you for pointing out that Boeser hasn't improved since his 2nd year. Show me actual metrics that Boeser is way better than Burakovsky today. You sound like Flames fans who kept on harping that Monahan > Mackinnon the first 4 years in the league.

Anddddd the radical underrating of Boeser continues.

So you're saying if Boeser was on the Avs, he'd be scoring PPG getting 2nd line minutes with a combination of Kadri, Saad, and Nichushkin as his linemates? Or is Boeser secretly a Selke candidate that the rest of the league haven't caught on yet?

 

[Muffin]

Obviously its not worth the discussion because Boeser is far better than Bura and if you aren't looking at how a player will progress and develop its very short sighted and pointless discussion anyway.
Bura - yr 1 - 0.42 ppg / 0.16 gpg
yr 2 - 0.48 ppg / 0.22 gpg
yr 3 - 0.54 ppg / 0.19 gpg
yr 4 - 0.44 ppg / 0.21 gpg
yr 5 - 0.32 ppg / 0.16 gpg

Boeser - yr 1 - 0.56 ppg / 0.44 gpg
yr 2 - 0.89 ppg / 0.47 gpg
yr 3 - 0.81 ppg / 0.38 gpg
yr 4 - 0.79 ppg / 0.28 gpg
yr 5 - 0.88 ppg / 0.41 gpg

I will take Boeser and what he has accomplished 10 times out of 10 to call him a marginal upgrade is ignorant.

It’s irrelevant what his numbers in Washington were, he was buried in a bottom 6 role and never got the opportunity until he was traded. Boeser was handed the top 6 role straight out of college
Boeser and Burakovsky are comparable players.

 

[Muffin]

Boeser + 3rd for Newhook + Burakovsky makes sense to me.

Colorado upgrades immediately, Vancouver returns an A centre prospect who could replace Horvat/Miller if they are priced out. Bura helps them somewhat replace Boeser's production in the short term but is also a UFA at the end of the year giving them a tryout/flexibility.

Might seem pricey to Avs fans but Boeser is a surefire top 6 winger and they need depth scoring pretty badly.

Doesn’t do much for the Avs, they’re better off re-signing Burakovsky and keeping Newhook.
Hell Krebs and Tuch got Eichel, if Newhook and Burakovsky were on the table Colorado can do a lot better than Boeser assuming Burakovsky has an extension.

 

[Boondock]

It’s irrelevant what his numbers in Washington were, he was buried in a bottom 6 role and never got the opportunity until he was traded. Boeser was handed the top 6 role straight out of college
Boeser and Burakovsky are comparable players.

Its a comp of wingers at the same age. Showing that Boeser has been the better producer at every year in the league. Bura improved and if you see them as comparable than why aren't you also predicting am increase in production from Boeser in his 24, 25 year seasons.

 

[Boondock]

Lol, I enjoy how you keep on using Bura's worst 5 years. The point is the past 2+ years they've had identical production, and thank you for pointing out that Boeser hasn't improved since his 2nd year. Show me actual metrics that Boeser is way better than Burakovsky today. You sound like Flames fans who kept on harping that Monahan > Mackinnon the first 4 years in the league.

I'm comparing age and seasons played. If Boeser was older and had more years under his belt I would look at those stats as well. If Bura's 2 best year have come after 24 It's pretty stupid to only look at Boeser before that point in his career. Either way, you're happy with Bura, Canucks are happy with Boeser

So you're saying if Boeser was on the Avs, he'd be scoring PPG getting 2nd line minutes with a combination of Kadri, Saad, and Nichushkin as his linemates? Or is Boeser secretly a Selke candidate that the rest of the league haven't caught on yet?

 

[Muffin]

Its a comp of wingers at the same age. Showing that Boeser has been the better producer at every year in the league. Bura improved and if you see them as comparable than why aren't you also predicting am increase in production from Boeser in his 24, 25 year seasons.

Because he hasn’t shown any reason why we should? His points total has been pretty consistent every year he’s been in the league. You can clearly see the reason for Burakovsky’s point increase is due to him being given a top 6 role. Boeser already is in a top 6 role.

Sure you’re free to believe Boeser is better than Burakovsky but to think he’s in a different tier is laughable. To think the difference is Newhook is even more laughable. A similar prospect in Krebs was just the main piece to an Eichel deal.

 

[PettersonHughes]

Start with Byram or a healthy Devon Toews (if he's a big-minute shutdown defender), please and thank you.

 

[elitepete]

Doesn’t improve the Avs. No thanks. Bura would be a big loss this year.

On what planet does a trade where you lose Burakovsky and get Miller not make you better???

 

[Muffin]

Start with Byram or a healthy Devon Toews (if he's a shutdown defender), please and thank you.

Lol at thinking Byram and Toews’ value is even in the same universe.

 

[Muffin]

Here we go again. Pettersson, Boeser, Miller and Hughes are all elite players, Demko is going to win a Vezina and yet your team is still bad, maybe just maybe you’re overrating your players? You’d think a team with so many “all stars” wouldn’t be at the bottom of the league all the time.

 

[nightonthesun]

Van fans in this thread do not seem to realize how much Byram's value has increased in the early goings of this season. But that doesn't mean we need to crap on Boeser in response; he would still be a significant upgrade over our current, very inconsistent options on the second line

 

[elitepete]

Here we go again. Pettersson, Boeser, Miller and Hughes are all elite players, Demko is going to win a Vezina and yet your team is still bad, maybe just maybe you’re overrating your players? You’d think a team with so many “all stars” wouldn’t be at the bottom of the league all the time.

When did anyone say this nonsense?

Colorado’s entire roster outside of Mackinnon and Rantanen is severely overrated. You have 2 guys that carry everyone else on your team.

 

[McJedi]

On what planet does a trade where you lose Burakovsky and get Miller not make you better???

Bura. Great scorer. Great skater. Important PP2 guy. He’d be missed badly.

 

[sting101]

Here we go again. Pettersson, Boeser, Miller and Hughes are all elite players, Demko is going to win a Vezina and yet your team is still bad, maybe just maybe you’re overrating your players? You’d think a team with so many “all stars” wouldn’t be at the bottom of the league all the time.

this would be equated with evaluating MacKinnon and your teams core based on up to 2017. Look at the ages and experience and the roster changes on this team the last couple years and get back to us with some perspective.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Lol, I enjoy how you keep on using Bura's worst 5 years. The point is the past 2+ years they've had identical production, and thank you for pointing out that Boeser hasn't improved since his 2nd year. Show me actual metrics that Boeser is way better than Burakovsky today. You sound like Flames fans who kept on harping that Monahan > Mackinnon the first 4 years in the league.



So you're saying if Boeser was on the Avs, he'd be scoring PPG getting 2nd line minutes with a combination of Kadri, Saad, and Nichushkin as his linemates? Or is Boeser secretly a Selke candidate that the rest of the league haven't caught on yet?

If Boeser is on the Av's he's likely a 40 goal scorer, thinking he is even in the same conversation as Bura is f***ing ridiculously ignorant bud.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Here we go again. Pettersson, Boeser, Miller and Hughes are all elite players, Demko is going to win a Vezina and yet your team is still bad, maybe just maybe you’re overrating your players? You’d think a team with so many “all stars” wouldn’t be at the bottom of the league all the time.

Throwing around more hyperbole to prove your point eh? Sad....

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Bura. Great scorer. Great skater. Important PP2 guy. He’d be missed badly.

Not if he is replaced with Miller, wow.....

 

[McJedi]

Not if he is replaced with Miller, wow.....

Pretty much a lateral move for the Avs. Bura is the Avs 4th best forward and their very best shooter. They need him. He’s a 25G guy for Colorado. He’s a very good hockey player.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Pretty much a lateral move for the Avs. Bura is the Avs 4th best forward and their very best shooter. They need him. He’s a 25G guy for Colorado. He’s a very hockey player.

So now Bura is equal to Miller, wow. The underrating of Canucks players continues.

 

[McJedi]

On what planet does a trade where you lose Burakovsky and get Miller not make you better???

One for one? Ok. But Add newhook a F off with that nonsense. Are you then adding Hoglander?

bura was a .77 PPG guy for the Avs his first year. Was .83 PPG last year. He’s really good.

 

[AvsCOL]

Boeser is a fantastic player, but don't think these teams are trading partners. They probably want a defenseman, and the Avs aren't moving any of them.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Boeser is a fantastic player, but don't think these teams are trading partners. They probably want a defenseman, and the Avs aren't moving any of them.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[McJedi]

If Boeser is on the Av's he's likely a 40 goal scorer, thinking he is even in the same conversation as Bura is f***ing ridiculously ignorant bud.

This was a conversation about JT Miller. Not Boeser. Stop conflating.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Take out Newhook and you’re still not even close.

That first is trending top 5/10 with chance at a lottery win. Value is there 100%