Value of: Bo Byram

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Junohockeyfan

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This seems likely. It's unfortunate the concussion issues he's had, they've set him back numerous times during key growth seasons and hot streaks.

Not to mention his price has to be higher than his market value. I can't believe there's a team with a similarly talented 2C on the verge of 1C that they'd move who is also relatively young and reasonably costed. Really should be a RyJo/Jones swap scenario.
Takes bad penalties and is an adventure in his own zone. Not sure what happened to him. During the cup run he was really good. Now, he's barely a 2nd pairing dman.
 

jackjohnson

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Bo's falling out of flavour in COL. Before tonight, he was tied for the league lead in minor penalties, and took another in OT tonight. Not sure if he's got too much responsibility with Girard out, but his awareness (and confidence) is abysmal lately.

Doesn't necessary have to be a Dman coming back.
- Boone Jenner (if Columbus wants a culture change)?
- Konencny?
- Lundell (although I don't think FLA needs dman)?
- Or swap him for Noah Hanifin+?

What's his value?
Canucks will trade you Garland for Byram
 
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Nope. It could not.
Hoglander leads the league in GP/60 and a 1st rounder is exactly that. Garland isn’t a negative asset and only 2 years left after this year. If you say so though.

Maybe something around Podkolzin and Brustevich? Or Podkolzin and a 1st?

Would rather not trade a 1st away for him.
I wouldn’t either but he’s still very young and the exact type of target Canucks should and usually go after.
 

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That's what people here kept saying regarding Beauvillier
Are you incapable of understanding contracts? Garland has another 2 years after this one. Beau's is an expiring contract. 2.75 years of an under-performing Garland is negative value. :laugh:
 

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Are you incapable of understanding contracts? Garland has another 2 years after this one. Beau's is an expiring contract. 2.75 years of an under-performing Garland is negative value. :laugh:
Doesn't change the fact that you also don't understand which player is better either lol
 

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Doesn't change the fact that you also don't understand which player is better either lol
Debatable which is better and quite irrelevant as Connor Garland has another 2 years on that bloated contract. No one will touch that unless a 1st is coming back as a sweetener. Garland will likely be bought out.
 

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Debatable which is better and quite irrelevant as Connor Garland has another 2 years on that bloated contract. No one will touch that unless a 1st is coming back as a sweetener. Garland will likely be bought out.
Again you don't know the value of players so your take is a moot point. You make it sound like Canucks owner will keep buying out players every year and why would they do that? Garland can be traded just like Beauvillier, just like Pearson and just like other players we traded. Garland is not like Nurse with a huge contract and term and has potential. He has great work ethic so he will not be a cap dump that needs a sweetner

Hoglander + Canucks 2024 1st + Garland for Cap purposes.

I think that could work out very well for both teams.
I will keep Hoglander. That guy is a keeper and we need players like him that grind it out. Canucks are carving a great identity having Hoglander, Joshua, Lafferty...adding Zadorov, Cole. We need grit and big hits from these players. Even Pettersson and Miller are dishing it out.
 

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Again you don't know the value of players so your take is a moot point. You make it sound like Canucks owner will keep buying out players every year and why would they do that? Garland can be traded just like Beauvillier, just like Pearson and just like other players we traded. Garland is not like Nurse with a huge contract and term and has potential. He has great work ethic so he will not be a cap dump that needs a sweetner


I will keep Hoglander. That guy is a keeper and we need players like him that grind it out. Canucks are carving a great identity having Hoglander, Joshua, Lafferty...adding Zadorov, Cole. We need grit and big hits from these players. Even Pettersson and Miller are dishing it out.
He will need a sweetener. Pretty big one. Unless they trade dump for dump which is possible.
 

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He will need a sweetener. Pretty big one. Unless they trade dump for dump which is possible.
Again we didn't need sweetner when we traded Beau and didn't even need retention and we even got a 5th in return which is more like a 4th round pick. You were probably saying the same for Beau too. Depending on each teams situation, you don't need a sweetner in every trade.
 

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Again you don't know the value of players so your take is a moot point. You make it sound like Canucks owner will keep buying out players every year and why would they do that? Garland can be traded just like Beauvillier, just like Pearson and just like other players we traded. Garland is not like Nurse with a huge contract and term and has potential. He has great work ethic so he will not be a cap dump that needs a sweetner


I will keep Hoglander. That guy is a keeper and we need players like him that grind it out. Canucks are carving a great identity having Hoglander, Joshua, Lafferty...adding Zadorov, Cole. We need grit and big hits from these players. Even Pettersson and Miller are dishing it out.

You’ll keep everyone if you don’t have anything better to offer.
 

Junohockeyfan

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Again we didn't need sweetner when we traded Beau and didn't even need retention and we even got a 5th in return which is more like a 4th round pick. You were probably saying the same for Beau too. Depending on each teams situation, you don't need a sweetner in every trade.
Who will take 2.75 more years of that bloated contract without a sweetener?
 

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Who will take 2.75 more years of that bloated contract without a sweetener?
Teams that are desperate to get a tweener forward which they can't get in Free agency like Chicago, Arizona, Columbus etc. Garland can play on PP and can put up points. He isn't totally useless like Eriksson
 

Junohockeyfan

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Teams that are desperate to get a tweener forward which they can't get in Free agency like Chicago, Arizona, Columbus etc. Garland can play on PP and can put up points. He isn't totally useless like Eriksson
5M can be better spent elsewhere than on an unproductive small winger. Hence, he will need a sweetener.

If you include Garland in a trade for Byram, you need to add a 1st just to dump Garland and then you need to add to get Byram!
 
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