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He's also not able to accept his QO either. So it's going to be a 1 year Arbitration deal or a multi-year deal.
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Interestingly enoguh, it's team elected with Tkachuk coming off of a 104 point season. How much will an arbitrator give a 100-point player. I'll have to look into what the biggest awards have been, but there is a risk he gets $10 or more.
Further, club-elected arbitration in the 2nd window means that they have to ask for an amount equal or more than his last year's salary ($9M). I believe this is 2nd window. Maybe they elected earlier and I just didn't hear about it. Also since its club-elected, Tkachuk gets to pick the term, which will be 1 year so he can go UFA sooner.
The only reason I can think that Calgary would go to arbitration is that they were worried he would sit out the year rather than select the QO. If they just stood pat, he could have taken the $9M/1yr QO, Now they will pay $9M minimum with the risk of more for only 1 year, barring an agreement before judgement is issued. The only upside is that Tkachuk has no choice but to accept the offer.
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From what I'm reading, they were more worried about a Offer-sheet. Also crazy that since he's only 1 year from being a UFA he can only be rewarded 1 Year from Arbitration as well.
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Was an offer sheet a risk? They could match anything less than $10.5, And if it was more, they'd get 4 first round picks for a guy it looks like they might lose for nothing.
Right - seems like a big offer sheet would have been great for Calgary - either they match and get Tkachuk long term, or they get a haul in draft picks. This is bad news for Calgary fans.
I think this means he can choose a 1y deal going straight to UFA, right?
I think an offer sheet was Calgary's fondest desire.
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Yeah I have to be honest, I don’t understand their logic in electing arbitration either.
Any arbitration award will be 1 year - no choice on that one by either side.
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His salary will have a 9 on it this year and I don't want Tkachuk at 9M anything. If they acquire Tkachuk I don't see them keeping ROR
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It's absolutely hilarious reading Calgary fans post about Tkachuk now. You'd think someone they say is just a slight notch below Stone on defensive ability would still be on a good deal at ~10ish on a long-term deal, even if his offensive production goes back to his career average numbers.
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9M for tkachuk after the projected cap jump post covid lock could potentially be a very nice contract. 100Pt players that bring the other intangibles tkachuk brings don't grow on trees. It's easy to say he benefitted from gaudreau and lindholm but you can also argue they benefitted from him. In reality, those three were a great line and unless your mcdavid you need quality linemates to produce in the top 10 in the league. Not to mention how well his game would mesh on a line with thomas & any of buch/kyrou/tarasenko. I could easily see him being a 90-100 Pt producer through him and thomas's primes together, which for me at 17 M combined between the 2 would be absolutely worth it, especially projecting into the future given the salary cap situation.
I also don't see ROR getting offered over 7.5m on his next contract, so i'm thinking his cap hit either stays the same or(if his production is lower than the norm again for him this year) maybe even less like an army 8x6.5m special?
Who knows, this is a very interesting time for us Blues fans. We're still contenders but were defintely in a transition period with our young bucks and potentially could be making big time moves for our present/future (chycrun/tkachuk) or we could be standing pat with what we got and patiently developing our young guns to hopefully join and help our current core sometime over these next three seasons. There are alot of different options Army could take, gonna be interesting to see what happens........low key hope we can trade tarasenko and barbashev for full or overpayment value and get massive cap relief for kyrou/ror & a tkachuk acquisition. Then figure out a way to move krug for value and parlay into a chycrun deal......yes i know it's wishful and unrealistic thinking....but that's what this forum is for lmao
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If they go in a Tkachuk direction it's basically a bet that Thomas, Kyrou and Tkachuk are the sort of players who have more will than all the other great players in the league and will overcome their opposition in the toughest moments of the playoffs. I just don't believe that about that trio. Thomas was overmatched against Colorado, Kyrou was hit or miss and Tkachuk certainly imposed no will in his playoffs, he was willed upon by better players in keeping with the grand tradition of Tkachukery. They'll compete, but I don't think these guys are the guys.
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That's the American dream.
I honestly think he's one of the few players in the league where that price tag may not actually make him a net neutral or negative value player.
I'm leaning more and more to the point of view we should try and acquire him, because I'm not sure there's a realistic way we can acquire a top 10 type player anywhere else and you still need elite talent to win the Cup, regardless of the narratives surrounding Tkachuk choking or whatever.
I think most around here would say what the Blues really need is still a true elite #1 defenseman, but it doesn't seem like there's even a possibility of acquiring one. Army doesn't seem to think so either since we're now locked into a top 4 of aging 31+ vets for 4 years.
Tkachuk will score like Tarasenko and is better at driving possession. He's also at the right age to sign to a 7 or 8 year deal and fits the timeline of the other players in our core.
This might be true, but is there a better way to get this team to compete?
The best way for us to win another Cup would probably have been tanking after Pietrangelo left so we could have drafted Owen Power or something and added him to our up and coming prospects so we could peak when Thomas and Kyrou are in the second half of their long term deals.
But that's not where we are or where Armstrong is taking us. I honestly think our best chance to win another might really be acquiring Tkachuk next year or now.
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You mean you don't believe that 1 year of a 100 point player is worth more than 9 years of an 80 point player?
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Yeah some guy started a Tkachuk to the Blues thread on the trade board, probably because he was bored today or something.
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This is our 1 and only year before the window closes for good.
***checks LD***
Well, shit.
Linkens Mastery
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I say we all throw him into a pool to think about what he's done.. .
I have mixed feelings about a Tkachuk trade. We'd have to move almost $10M in salary to sign him (Tarasenko and Scandella), and offer some decent futures to Calgary to make it happen...but there's no way all of the youth in the pipeline will all make this team; so I have no problem sacrificing one of Neighbors/Snuggy/Bolduc to get the deal done. Plus his dad is probably my least favorite Blue of all time....but damn, ignoring the contract that he'd sign with STL (surely $9M+), he'd be an absolutely perfect target to acquire.
It's just a damn shame that Heiskanen didn't grow up in Soulard and want to come home at the first opportunity. That's the guy we really need....not somebody who's going to take the offense from an B+ to an A-.
It's just a damn shame that Heiskanen didn't grow up in Soulard and want to come home at the first opportunity. That's the guy we really need....not somebody who's going to take the offense from an B+ to an A-.
101.1 had a guest on today from some hockey site (escapes me) who suggested Kyrou + Perunovich + Bolduc should be enough to get it done. Yeah, that’s not happening. Kyrou alone would be an overpayment, IMO, given the very little leverage Calgary has (assuming MT indeed wants out).
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Eric Francis, works for Sportsnet and I don't think people think too highly of him. He does confirm what we all know in that a trade this summer and in the next week or so is inevitable.
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