Value of: Blackhawks Fire Sale

[Kevin Musto]

He's been good just been left out to dry by Gustafson and borgstrom.

I can't tell if you're messing with me, or really clueless.

Stillman never played with Gus. Gus was signed after he was injured.

Borgstrom isn't a defenseman.

 

[Perennial]

If I were a petty man I would go back and quote all the posts saying Jones alone was worth more than Matthews lol
I had proposed a trade of Matthews for PLD+Jones from the Jackets and roasted for it. In hind sight that would have been soo bad for the Leafs.

Has Jones really been that bad?

Dubois has 10 points in 8 games this season

If Jones is still a legit #1 D, I'd make that deal for Toronto...

Tavares & Dubois as a 1-2 punch down the middle is better than what most teams are rolling out each game

 

[vandymeer13]

I can't tell if you're messing with me, or really clueless.

Stillman never played with Gus. Gus was signed after he was injured.

Borgstrom isn't a defenseman.

You obviously haven't watched the hawks then this year. Because Gus was signed right before the season started missed the 1st game and played everyone since and was paired with Stillman for pretty much every game. Borgstrom is a center but on two different occasions of him not covering his guy caused Stillman -2

 

[BLNY]

If Hawks were to blow it up, it would be pretty easy for connections to be made between Toews and Montreal. I'm assuming his NMC likely includes the Canadian teams but:

• two years left including this year
• actual dollars is a lot less than the hit, but would want Hawks to retain some.
• Played nationally with Weber and Price. If Weber is truly done, you can use the ltir space for big chunk of Toews' cap hit.
• Plays center, and is still productive.

 

[SuterHaglshev]

Imo Stan Bowman was just a illusion of a good GM. He completely destroyed this franchise with Mc D .

If I'm Rocky Wirtz I'm on the phone immediately calling talon and bringing him back. What's sad is talon buildt a dynasty including Chicago's depth his only mistake that imo didn't warrant him being let go while stan was given a pass for the numerous mistakes .

Tribalism red kosher carpet rolled out to Stan. Dale Tallon had skill. Stan Bowman was born into nepotism you can't blame him. Give him a star.

 

[Northernhawk]

Tribalism red kosher carpet rolled out to Stan. Dale Tallon had skill. Stan Bowman was born into nepotism you can't blame him. Give him a star.

So no credit for not dismantling the 2011 team that almost got swept by Vancouver…or the building 2013 Cup winner, 2014 final four and 2015 Cup winner?

Brandon Saad
Andrew Shaw
Johnny Oduya
Michal Rozsival
Michal Handzus
Michal Frolik
Brad Richards
Nick Leddy
Andrew Desjardins
Antoine Vermette
Teuvo Teravainen
Viktor Stalberg
Kris Versteeg

no credit at all?

 

[Taylorst]

Tribalism red kosher carpet rolled out to Stan. Dale Tallon had skill. Stan Bowman was born into nepotism you can't blame him. Give him a star.

Very well said. Stans father was/is a legendary hall of fame coach , there is nothing wrong with helping your kid or opening up a door for them, however people need to be hired based on qualifications, knowledge and results/history. We see in today's world a vast majority of people in many industries/ government ect were hired for the wrong reasons and continue to fail with no accountability.

Imo I believe Rocky had enough and this incident was the easy way out. How can a owner justify firing a hall of fame headcoach who brought a winning record to the organization 3 stanley cups only to be fired and replaced with a guy who was found in some barn league just recently and his record is atrocious.

 

[Highmarker]

The Oilers should make a play for Hagel if the Blackhawks have him available. Samorukov + 2nd rounder

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

With the goal of clearing out their long term contracts in order to have significant cap space by the summer of 2024, here are a few trade ideas...


Trade #1
To Florida: Kane (50% retained), Lankinen

To Chicago: Hornqvist, Knight

Florida: They land an elite 1st line winger to play alongside Barkov, while also dumping Hornqvist's contract. As much as they may like Knight, can they really justify paying him 5+ million in a couple of years with Bobrovsky's contract on the roster? Lankinen gives them a cheap backup for the rest of the season

Chicago: They get their goalie of the future in Knight


Trade #2
To Ottawa: Toews, Murphy

To Chicago: Brannstrom, J. Brown, Sanford, T.B.'s 2022 2nd

Ottawa: They bring in a veteran C in Toews to captain the rebuild, while Murphy shores up the right side of their D

Chicago: They get a young LD with some upside in Brannstrom, a 2022 2nd rd pick, and clear Murphy's long term contract from their books


Trade #3
To Calgary: Johnson

To Chicago: Monahan, Lucic

Calgary: They pick up a 3C with playoff experience while clearing approx. 6.5 million in cap space. They also make room for Pelletier in their lineup

Chicago: They clear the 3rd year of Johnson's contract, and pick up a couple of overpaid veterans for the fans to boo during home games


Trade #4
To Los Angeles: Kubalik, McCabe

To Chicago: Athanasiou, Moore, Maatta

L.A.: They get an upgrade on the wing in Kubalik, and a veteran LD in McCabe

Chicago: They clear McCabe's long term contract from the books


Trade #5
To Toronto: Strome

To Chicago: 2022 1st, Ritchie

Toronto: They roll the dice on Strome at LW in their top 6, while also dumping Ritchie's contract

Chicago: They add a 2022 1st


Trade #6
To Pittsburgh: Fleury (50% retained)

To Chicago: Rikola, DeSmith

Pittsburgh: They bring Fleury back for what may be his final season

Chicago: They make room for Knight as their starting goalie, while DeSmith gives them a backup for the rest of the season

A 1st round pick seems like to much for Strome

 

[elitepete]

Jurmo+2nd for Murphy

 

[Mrfenn92]

Jurmo+2nd for Murphy

No thanks

 

[elitepete]

No thanks

What if we threw in Dipietro?

 

[AmadiosAmigos]

Whats the ask for Murphy?

 

[Viqsi]

I'm interested in Murphy, not so much because we need the D help but because every time we add a guy who has childhood Columbus connections they apparently turn to f***ing gold. It's like they've all internalized the city's longstanding inferiority complex as kids and when they come back they're all "finally, this is MY chance to do MY part in showing all the haters and dismissers how wrong they are to ignore this town".

I mean, at this rate Murphy in union blue might well end up contending for a Norris or something at the rate we've been going lately.

 

[TheDachKnight]

I'm interested in Murphy, not so much because we need the D help but because every time we add a guy who has childhood Columbus connections they apparently turn to f***ing gold. It's like they've all internalized the city's longstanding inferiority complex as kids and when they come back they're all "finally, this is MY chance to do MY part in showing all the haters and dismissers how wrong they are to ignore this town".

I mean, at this rate Murphy in union blue might well end up contending for a Norris or something at the rate we've been going lately.

Well if that’s the case, our 2022 1st back and a good prospect. Small price to pay for a future Norris contender who has already signed an extension

 

[TheDachKnight]

Jurmo+2nd for Murphy

I like Jurmo but no. Even with DiPietro in there. Feels like 3 nickels for a quarter type of deal.

 

[SnS]

I’d be interested in Kane.

 

[Viqsi]

Well if that’s the case, our 2022 1st back and a good prospect. Small price to pay for a future Norris contender who has already signed an extension

...touche.

 

[elitepete]

I like Jurmo but no. Even with DiPietro in there. Feels like 3 nickels for a quarter type of deal.

How about Rathbone straight up? My fellow Canucks fans will hate me for this.

 

[Sempiternal]

I actually do think that the Blackhawks need to purge the stink. Send Toews to Winterpeg and Kane to the Rangers.

 

[BatVader]

I actually do think that the Blackhawks need to purge the stink. Send Toews to Winterpeg and Kane to the Rangers.

No thanks from Winterpeg… keep him. He’s all yours

 

[Perennial]

I think Calgary and Chicago seem like good trading partners, provided Toews and Kane are willing to go there...


To Calgary: Kane (50% retained), Toews (50% retained)

To Chicago: Coronato, Monahan, Lucic, FLA's 2022 2nd


Calgary add an elite 1st line winger at half his cap hit, while Toews gives them a veteran who should fit in nicely in a defensive role on the 3rd line. They also dump the contracts of Monahan and Lucic

Chicago get a solid prospect in Coronato, plus a 2022 2nd


Possible Calgary lineup:
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Kane
Gaudreau - Backlund - Mangiapane
Coleman - Toews - Dube

 

[Perennial]

To Chicago: Brannstrom

To Ottawa: Strome


Chicago get a young LD with some upside in Brannstrom

Ottawa get a young C with some upside in Strome

Both players are former 1st rd picks who seem like they would welcome playing elsewhere...

 

[Perennial]

To Los Angeles: Kubalik

To Chicago: 2022 1st, Maatta


Kings get a goal-scoring top 6 LW

Chicago get a 2022 1st rd pick

 

[Perennial]

3way deal...

Chicago out: Kane (50% retained)
Chicago in: Yamamoto, Brannstrom, EDM's 2022 1st, T.B.'s 2022 2nd

Edmonton out: 2022 1st, Yamamoto, Barrie
Edmonton in: Kane (50% retained), J. Brown (50% retained)

Ottawa out: Brannstrom, J. Brown (50% retained), T.B.'s 2022 2nd
Ottawa in: Barrie


Chicago get a couple of young players with some upside in Yamamoto and Brannstrom, plus a 2022 1st and a 2022 2nd rd pick

Edmonton get an elite 1st line RW at half his cap hit, plus a bottom pairing RD on an expiring contract

Ottawa get an offensive RD to quarterback their powerplay