Rumor: Benning shoots down current Tanev rumors; won't guarantee he won't be traded
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AustonsNostrils
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Well many Canucks fans don't want Kane period because of his ongoing legal/behavioral problems - but let's say he had been trouble free since the trade to Buffalo, Kane and Bogosian is fair value for Tanev and Hansen.
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If the Avs were OK with JVR for Barrie, then Vancouver doesn't need to be involved. We will just do a deal with Colorado and keep Barrie.
Well, it is a Tanev thread, and Vancouver won't do JVR for Tanev - so I though that I'd involve Vancouver in the proposal. Anyway, I'm more fond of Tanev than I am of Barrie. Would be a better fit in our core too, if you ask me. A defensive #2 is something that we're lacking, and there are no prospects in our possession, that would fill the hole in the near future.
As some people here have said, it is funny how many Tanev topics we've had in the last few months, especially after the Larsson trade. Not a slight against Tanev, but it is funny.
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Well, it is a Tanev thread, and Vancouver won't do JVR for Tanev - so I though that I'd involve Vancouver in the proposal. Anyway, I'm more fond of Tanev than I am of Barrie. Would be a better fit in our core too, if you ask me. A defensive #2 is something that we're lacking, and there are no prospects in our possession, that would fill the hole in the near future.
As some people here have said, it is funny how many Tanev topics we've had in the last few months, especially after the Larsson trade. Not a slight against Tanev, but it is funny.
I'm not knocking Tanev at all, been a fan for a while. I wouldn't move Nylander/Marner for him though...i want to see what they can do 1st.
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Take out Hansen and it's still not fair. Although to be fair, I'm not as high on Bogosian as some are.
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That's cool but if Tanev moves for a roster player, it'll definitely be a young top-6 forward with potential to become a solid first line player or a prospect with first line potential at minimum.
Der Jaeger
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If Buffalo can move Kane and Bogosian for Tanev, plus a Canuck cap dump to make it work (Sbisa), the Sabres salvage the trade from Winnipeg.
Bogosian and Kane fit the style team Benning is trying to build. Kuilikov-Tanev immediately becomes Buffalo's shut down pairing.
I'd add as a Sabres fan to make this happen.
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It's the same reason that in baseball you see guys like Justin Verlander or David Price hit and clear waivers in August after the trade deadline. Teams do procedural things to fish for deals all the time. And if you wait till the high caliber is on the block... you're behind the 8-ball because other GMs would have already been listening. You do realize that teams talk about trading players LONG before they ever hit the block, right?
kane and bogo for tanev and hansen??
thats laughable from a canucks perspective.
its trading overvalued players for undervalued players. The reality is that Hansen is pretty close to Kane. Kane gets the edge, but I dont think he can be used in as many situations as Hansen whos an excellent PKer, and can play in any role in the lineup. Lets not even discuss whod be a better player in the locker room or more coachable.
Kane GP G A P +/- PIM Hit Blk
2013-14 WPG 63 19 22 41 -7 66 173 36
2014-15 WPG 37 10 12 22 -1 56 119 14
2015-16 BUF 65 20 15 35 -14 91 171 23
Hansen
2013-14 VAN 71 11 9 20 -9 43 99 22
2014-15 VAN 81 16 17 33 -6 27 80 30
2015-16 VAN 67 22 16 38 16 32 39 19
Im not suggesting I would take Hansen over Kane, purely because of age and potential. Kane has a potential package of physicality and goal scoring that is very appealing and is exactly what the Canucks are looking for in the position he plays.
Now for Bogosian vs Tanev..
Small offensive improvment off the blue line in exchange for a monumental defensive impact....
This deal is not close.
Make it Hansen + Sbisa for Kane
thats laughable from a canucks perspective.
its trading overvalued players for undervalued players. The reality is that Hansen is pretty close to Kane. Kane gets the edge, but I dont think he can be used in as many situations as Hansen whos an excellent PKer, and can play in any role in the lineup. Lets not even discuss whod be a better player in the locker room or more coachable.
Kane GP G A P +/- PIM Hit Blk
2013-14 WPG 63 19 22 41 -7 66 173 36
2014-15 WPG 37 10 12 22 -1 56 119 14
2015-16 BUF 65 20 15 35 -14 91 171 23
Hansen
2013-14 VAN 71 11 9 20 -9 43 99 22
2014-15 VAN 81 16 17 33 -6 27 80 30
2015-16 VAN 67 22 16 38 16 32 39 19
Im not suggesting I would take Hansen over Kane, purely because of age and potential. Kane has a potential package of physicality and goal scoring that is very appealing and is exactly what the Canucks are looking for in the position he plays.
Now for Bogosian vs Tanev..
Small offensive improvment off the blue line in exchange for a monumental defensive impact....
This deal is not close.
Make it Hansen + Sbisa for Kane
aufheben
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You'd have to add. A lot.
It's a nauseating deal for Vancouver. But it's Benning, so you probably have a shot at pulling if off then.
Kane would get into so much trouble playing in Vancouver.
Its probable, but you cant underestimate the power of having his family helping him evening his issues out. I know his dads always had a big impact on him, and I do think that a more consistent family presence would do him some good.
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Kane would get into so much trouble playing in Vancouver.
Could go either way really. Maybe playing in front of family in friends and not being an embarrassment is what he needs? On the other hand, being around his "old stomping grounds" could be the exact opposite of what he needs.
The Hansen and Sbisa offer above is about the most I'd offer. Salary off-sets each other and although Hansen is a great utility player, he doesn't have the goal scoring ability or phyiscal play Kane could provide and Kane is obviously a better fit age-wise for Vancouver.
Tanev isn't going to be traded if the best centerpiece we get back is Kane. With the behavioural/legal issues I wouldn't want to pay much for him, short of cap dumps and maybe picks.
Tanev is our main shut down d. He is our top RHD. Everyone else is unproven or several levels lower. Gudbranson, Larsen and Tryamkin are all rightness, but as much as I hype them, they're not Tanev. We would need a huge upgrade elsewhere to merit him moving, and I haven't seen a single offer that gives us what we need.
Tanev is our main shut down d. He is our top RHD. Everyone else is unproven or several levels lower. Gudbranson, Larsen and Tryamkin are all rightness, but as much as I hype them, they're not Tanev. We would need a huge upgrade elsewhere to merit him moving, and I haven't seen a single offer that gives us what we need.
Does an NHL team really need to depend on the father of a 25 year old, 7 year NHL veteran to keep him out of trouble?
Like his dad hasn't spoken to Evander about the track suit incident from Winnipeg, attending the NBA all star game in another city, yet missing practice the next day, getting into his bar situation in Buffalo?
Is his dad going to be driving him to and from practice and games? No.... Evander has to take responsibility for his own decisions and actions.
He's been in the NHL for 7 seasons now. Been around some veteran hockey players, like Ladd since he was 19.
I just don't think having family around will be much of a factor.
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Terrible, terrible deal for Vancouver. Wouldn't trade Tanev alone for that package, let alone adding Hansen.
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To BUF:
Tanev
Burrows
Sbisa
VAN's 2017/2018 1st lottery protected deferment.
To VAN
Kane
Bogosian
Baptiste
MIN's 2nd in 2017 or BUF's 3rd in 2018 based on the 1st received.
Tanev
Burrows
Sbisa
VAN's 2017/2018 1st lottery protected deferment.
To VAN
Kane
Bogosian
Baptiste
MIN's 2nd in 2017 or BUF's 3rd in 2018 based on the 1st received.
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