Value of: Ben Chiarot can bring a 1st pick?

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Chiarot 9 points in 44 games and a -27 He's even worse then Nick Leddy and both are the same age. There's no freaking way Chiarot returns a 1st round pick not even close late 2nd at best like Leddy.

You impressed me.

I didn't even know you knew how to read.

 

[John Mandalorian]

You impressed me.

I didn't even know you knew how to read.

If you think people on a message board can't read, maybe you should be the one being judged?

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Chiarot 9 points in 44 games and a -27 He's even worse then Nick Leddy and both are the same age. There's no freaking way Chiarot returns a 1st round pick not even close late 2nd at best like Leddy.

One thing I've learned over the years is to never underestimate how incompetent and stupid GMs can be.

 

[BLONG7]

Habs fans spent all summer trolling because they thought their team was good. They trolled Toronto and Winnipeg fans ignoring the fact that both teams lost a #1C in Game 1.

So when the habs get hit by injuries and have an embarrassing season, you expect everyone else to keep quiet?

All I’m doing is returning the favour and simply stating facts. Please feel free to correct me if you feel that the habs have managed their assets properly, I’d love to see some concrete examples of how your organization isn’t a complete mess right now.

You have some valid points...........Habs did lucky last year in the playoffs, most habs fans realize this........
That being said, would you rather have an embarassing season, or an embarrassing playoffs?
I know what most would say............

Anyhow as for Big Ben Chariot, the slippery slope of supply and demand will rule......if 10-12 teams are calling then he will have a good return. It's just that simple...

 

[TomKosto]

You don't think "insiders" are used as pawns?

Most of the time, guys like Lebrun or Mckenzie are right... How the f*** people posting on hfboards knows than them?!

 

[Mersss]

Chiarot 9 points in 44 games and a -27 He's even worse then Nick Leddy and both are the same age. There's no freaking way Chiarot returns a 1st round pick not even close late 2nd at best like Leddy.

One of them's an Offensive D-man that disappears in the playoffs
The other's a big defensive d-man that gets even better when refs don't use their whistle

WORST possible comparable ever. GMs will actually value a Charot a LOT more than people seem to realize come playoff time.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If you think people on a message board can't read, maybe you should be the one being judged?

Can get text to read outloud.

I'll give you a B- on your attempt.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Can get text to read outloud.

I'll give you a B- on your attempt.

Can’t. I’m not enrolled.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

You impressed me.

I didn't even know you knew how to read.

Wow dude, Let's stay classy here why don't we.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

One of them's an Offensive D-man that disappears in the playoffs
The other's a big defensive d-man that gets even better when refs don't use their whistle

WORST possible comparable ever. GMs will actually value a Charot a LOT more than people seem to realize come playoff time.

I'm just comparing age wise and playing style, Chiarot is a bottom pairing Dman and sorry they don't go for 1st round picks.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

One thing I've learned over the years is to never underestimate how incompetent and stupid GMs can be.

He's a bottom pairing Dman, Any GM that gives up a 1st for him should be fired immediately.

 

[TomKosto]

You don't think "insiders" are used as pawns?

Looks like the pawns were right on Toffoli, how surprising!!

 

[John Mandalorian]

Looks like the pawns were right on Toffoli, how surprising!!

There are only so many firsts that are going to be traded. I give Montreal credit for getting out in front of it.

 

[Colezuki]

There are only so many firsts that are going to be traded. I give Montreal credit for getting out in front of it.

They'll get another for Chairot

 

[le_sean]

He's a bottom pairing Dman, Any GM that gives up a 1st for him should be fired immediately.

He literally led our team in icetime during the Cup run. Bottom pairing defenceman is just wrong. His size, experience and low cap hit means he’ll get a good return.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Paul Gaustad and Mathew Barnaby fetched 1sts at the deadline, for being "solid rough and tumble" playoff types. (outcomes: disaster). I think someone even gave up a first for like a 35 year old David Legwand?

So...you gave three examples of awful trades that backfired for GM's. You don't think GM's learn from the repeated mistakes of other GM's? On the other hand, Toronto did one of these last year with Foligno, so you may be right. A lot of stupidity rears its head when GM's get desperate, but really, you could use the same logic for any grinder in the league. Zack Kassian could be worth a 1st if a GM is dumb enough to trade a 1st for him.

 

[Lemonlimey]

So...you gave three examples of awful trades that backfired for GM's. You don't think GM's learn from the repeated mistakes of other GM's? On the other hand, Toronto did one of these last year with Foligno, so you may be right. A lot of stupidity rears its head when GM's get desperate, but really, you could use the same logic for any grinder in the league. Zack Kassian could be worth a 1st if a GM is dumb enough to trade a 1st for him.

i wasnt even right about the first for barnaby

 

[John Mandalorian]

They'll get another for Chairot

They better act fast.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

They'll get another for Chairot

From who tho? If we make a list of teams that both have their first, and would be in the market for a LHD, what teams are left?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Chiarot 9 points in 44 games and a -27 He's even worse then Nick Leddy and both are the same age. There's no freaking way Chiarot returns a 1st round pick not even close late 2nd at best like Leddy.

Based on your history of posting, you clearly have a hate on for the Habs. More than your average bear for sure!

Keep posting.. it’s basically just noise at this stage

 

[Mersss]

From who tho? If we make a list of teams that both have their first, and would be in the market for a LHD, what teams are left?

You know you can get a 2023 1st also right?

 

[Stewie Griffin]

You know you can get a 2023 1st also right?

It's still a genuine question though. Rentals don't normally get future firsts because the team trading for them may not have them on their roster by next season, and if a team already traded a first this year they will be more hesitant to get rid of another first.

 

[Mr Positive]

I'm just comparing age wise and playing style, Chiarot is a bottom pairing Dman and sorry they don't go for 1st round picks.

30 years old for a Dman is still well within their prime. As for playing style, there have been top 4 Dmen before who didnt put up a ton of points. Maybe with the right partner he could be like a Methot.

It's also hard to justify a position that he is bottom pairing when by minutes he is top line, or at least 2nd pairing. I know they are not a great team but there is parity in the league. Chiarot was even putting up 23+ minutes a night when Petry and Weber were leading the way

 

[Mr Positive]

It's still a genuine question though. Rentals don't normally get future firsts because the team trading for them may not have them on their roster by next season, and if a team already traded a first this year they will be more hesitant to get rid of another first.

I dont see that either. Well maybe if there were an extension agreed on right away. But that takes away some benefit of a rental in that it's nice to try them out before committing to the next deal

 

[DKH]

He’s got 9 points in 45 games and a team worst -27 and a rental - and on IR for a reason

People really believe they are getting a first for this guy ? I second is pushing it