Oddbob
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The math certainly adds up.
I think he will do worse than most think. 22 G, 29 A, 51 PTS in 70-82 games.
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The math certainly adds up.
I think he will do worse than most think. 22 G, 29 A, 51 PTS in 70-82 games.
Oddbob
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Bobby Orr the best defender of all time, "only" had 41 pts as a rookie in 61 games and 34 the next season in 46 games. It wasn't until his 4th season where he exploded into the Phenom he was.
Sweetpotato
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I think if he can get to PPG in his rookie season with this lineup it will be a massive accomplishment. He's going to be heavily targeted though so he might find it hard to find the time and space he needs.
I predict he gets hurt - misses significant time and never lives up to expectations.
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I have a hard time seeing him not score easily 30 plus goals. I predict 40 plus goals and 30 to 50 assists (harder to guess)
Remember a 18 year old Skinner scored 30 plus in goals and assists in a lower scoring Environment.
Remember a 18 year old Skinner scored 30 plus in goals and assists in a lower scoring Environment.
Lots of sky-high expectations.
Has anyone besides McDavid lived up to the hype in the last decade? More?
Every year it's the same thing, "this is the one"!!
Every year, around Christmas, we get a "is X a bust??"
If he goes 30/30, I think it would be considered a successful season.
I mean, there have been 5 players since 2000 that have scored more than 72 points in their rookie season. Two of them were Sid and Ovi in the same year.
Has anyone besides McDavid lived up to the hype in the last decade? More?
Every year it's the same thing, "this is the one"!!
Every year, around Christmas, we get a "is X a bust??"
If he goes 30/30, I think it would be considered a successful season.
I mean, there have been 5 players since 2000 that have scored more than 72 points in their rookie season. Two of them were Sid and Ovi in the same year.
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Has anybody since McDavid truly been touted and performed like a generational talent? He's not your average 1st round pick. He's technically performed at a higher level than McDavid as far as Juniors career is concerned. There's a good reason why people expect big numbers from him.
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I called it with Hughes when he was breaking records with the USNTDP, he'll be a star but I think it's going to take him a season or two to adjust. Hughes was probably a more extreme case but I think Bedard will be similar. He doesn't have the size or a specific gamebreaking physical attribute to rely on (e.g., McDavid's skating) while he adjusts to the league.
20 goals-45 points
20 goals-45 points
gretzkyoilers
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THIS. He plays 25 games, gets concussed, then will be the biggest bust since Alexandre Daigle...
I think he'll be an outstanding player, eventually.
And yes, we hear about the next Great One almost every year.
In the last 20 years, there has been one.
Do you think he'll be better than McDavid, since he performed at a "higher level" in Junior?
Very, very, unlikely.
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Nobody has been touted as highly as Bedard since McDavid. His WHL numbers are Crosby/McDavid level and he absolutely dominated in the WJC at a level even McDavid didn't. I don't know if he'll peak quite as high as McDavid but he'll be better than anybody else in the league imo (around 135 if I had to guess). He has a generational shot, extremely high hockey IQ, great agility/positioning and great playmaking. He's that good. Players on his level usually hit the ground running. Crosby did, McDavid did, and Bedard has a good chance to do the same. He doesn't have to be McDavid to at least produce at a ppg. Even Barzal did that.
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there's one generational player in the NHL today his name is Connor McDavid, Bedard won't change that. Also good luck to the idiots paying $500 for Bedard Young Guns. 
bucks_oil
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Is this actually true?
McDavid scored higher ppg in both his Draft -1 and Draft -2 seasons. Bedard outscored McDavid in WJC, but McDavid dominated more/longer in his final junior playoffs (49 in 20gp vs 20 in 7gp).
To me it's a saw off at best.
Plus I think the way Bedard dominated vs McDavid is worth considering.
Bedard finds quiet ice and is a better shooter... will that translate in a much more disciplined league? Eventually yes, but recognizing those patterns to find that ice at NHL level may require some study.
On the flip side, so much of McDavid's game came out of generational skating... his game has matured a lot since then, but he burst on the scene so quickly in part because he didn't need to think his way past guys, he could just skate faster.
I think 55-75 points this year is a huge success, maybe 90 if he's healthy the whole season. After that, yeah... I think your top end of 135 is probably achievable, I just think it will take him a little more time to get there... so much of his game is cerebral and he's going to be defended in ways he hasn't experienced to date.
Neil Racki
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there's one generational player in the NHL today his name is Connor McDavid, Bedard won't change that. Also good luck to the idiots paying $500 for Bedard Young Guns.
Agreed. McDavid dominated from the get-go because of his skating, but it took him a few years to learn how to dominate off the cycle. I think Bedard gets 50ish points but that will sky rocket once he adapts to the NHL
