Rumor: Avs Reached out to Chicago about Patrick Kane

[Junohockeyfan]

He comes with a 1st round pick

That made me spit out my coffee!

 

[Kevin Musto]

Kaut + Behrens + 2023 1st is the most I see Colorado coughing up.

If that doesn't get the deal done, Sakic looks elsewhere.

 

[Taylorst]

For me, I would love to add Kane, but the package could only include one of Newhook or Byram. I understand if Chicago balks at that, but the Avs shouldn't give up both in any deal for one player.

Most serious people will tell you Colorado will give up a 1st , jost, Newhook and probably Byram or giroux...

 

[Taylorst]

No doubt. Sakic is a patient and shrewd GM. He wouldn’t trade both Newhook and Byram and would probably not trade Newhook for anything

Sakic maybe shrewd but he isn't stupid. Colorado window is only open for the next 2 to 3 years at most. Kane is still a top 10 player , future hall of fame player who any team sees adding him would make them a dangerous team . Byram and those young assets would be worth the price to win a cup or 2 .... remember those young kids do nothing for the team now or in the near future to win...

 

[kthx]

Kaut + 1st is as far as Colorado is going

hahaha le haha broo top 10 funny moments in this forum wooooooooohooooooooo

 

[x Tame Impala]

Am i missing some news on Byram? I thought his head injuries had him depart hockey for the unforeseeable future and sadly he may never play hockey again. Why would the Hawks give up Kane for such uncertainty?

 

[coopooter]

I could see Avs going after good cost controlled forwards. 11 mil forward even with retention isn’t it

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Am i missing some news on Byram? I thought his head injuries had him depart hockey for the unforeseeable future and sadly he may never play hockey again. Why would the Hawks give up Kane for such uncertainty?

Exactly

Seems like alot of people are forgetting this whole massive issue with Byram.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Am i missing some news on Byram? I thought his head injuries had him depart hockey for the unforeseeable future and sadly he may never play hockey again. Why would the Hawks give up Kane for such uncertainty?

I am curious to hear an Avs response to this. I thought Byram was out for season.

 

[JoeSakic13]

I am curious to hear an Avs response to this. I thought Byram was out for season.

He’s been skating in Denver the last week or so, but no update on returning. Hasn’t been ruled out though either.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Am i missing some news on Byram? I thought his head injuries had him depart hockey for the unforeseeable future and sadly he may never play hockey again. Why would the Hawks give up Kane for such uncertainty?

Definitely qualifies as the wild card in all this.

Of course, the issue is that if he was perfectly healthy, he wouldn't even be on the table for 2 years of Kane. He's a 20 year old lottery pick defenseman who had 11 points in his first 18 games this year. There are enough other quality assets in the proposal to make a roll of the dice on Byram worth it for Chicago.

 

[strictlyrandy]

Sakic maybe shrewd but he isn't stupid. Colorado window is only open for the next 2 to 3 years at most. Kane is still a top 10 player , future hall of fame player who any team sees adding him would make them a dangerous team . Byram and those young assets would be worth the price to win a cup or 2 .... remember those young kids do nothing for the team now or in the near future to win...

imagine thinking the Avs only have a 2-3 year window at most lmao. Apparently MacKinnon, Landeskog, Rantanen, Makar, and Girard are all exiting their primes…

 

[Taylorst]

He’s been skating in Denver the last week or so, but no update on returning. Hasn’t been ruled out though either.

I believe hockey has implemented a new rule anytime a player gets hit in the head or any possible impact as a precaution...

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I mean if a massive deal went down for the Avs, I guess one plus is that many teams will most likely be too nervous to want Byram. Trade deadline is pretty soon and I would imagine no news will come out regarding Byram until after that.

Avs potentially could get a huge piece without having to give up Byram.. then just have to pray obviously he recovers and can return to hockey

 

[Richard88]

Sakic maybe shrewd but he isn't stupid. Colorado window is only open for the next 2 to 3 years at most. Kane is still a top 10 player , future hall of fame player who any team sees adding him would make them a dangerous team . Byram and those young assets would be worth the price to win a cup or 2 .... remember those young kids do nothing for the team now or in the near future to win...

There are question marks around Byram's health but he isn't a "young kid" or prospect anymore. He's a contributing member on the Avs roster, when healthy. Same for Newhook, who is the teams 3C currently.

 

[Taylorst]

imagine thinking the Avs only have a 2-3 year window at most lmao. Apparently MacKinnon, Landeskog, Rantanen, Makar, and Girard are all exiting their primes…

Most teams windows are only a couple of years especially with a salary cap that creates parity... age isn't the only factor . Chemistry , lucky bounces , goaltending, depth , injuries. Colorado was a better team last year and they still didn't make it to the finals...

Colorado could use some veteran leadership and players to get them over the hump...

 

[2legit2quit]

Could you imagine if we needed a goal in the final minute?

Landeskog-Rantanen-Kane
MacKinnon-Makar

Good God... Will never happen though.

If you were down a goal in the final minute, wouldn't you have 6 attackers on the ice instead of 5?

 

[Foppberg]

If you were down a goal in the final minute, wouldn't you have 6 attackers on the ice instead of 5?

True.

Landeskog-Miller-Kane
Rantanen-MacKinnon-Makar

 

[Joe Sakic]

I know it was a joke but it sums up my point that avs fans think that kaut +1st is some major package which is ridiculous.

So you understand and acknowledge that it was a joke. but you're using the joke as a basis for your opinion and statement?

That's bizarre to me. There's no serious Avs fan that believes Kaut + 1st is anywhere near receiving 2 years of a retained Patrick Kane. Not even close.

 

[Joe Sakic]

Kane at 5.25M is worth vastly more than broken Eichel at 10M.

I definitely would not say vastly more.

Kane is 33 years old, signed for 2 more years.

Agree that Eichel's cap hit is much, much larger which is obviously a huge detriment, but he is signed for 4.5 years, and is 25 years old, just now entering his statistical prime. The argument could go either way on which is better imo, but the difference between the two is not vast imo.

 

[Taylorst]

There are question marks around Byram's health but he isn't a "young kid" or prospect anymore. He's a contributing member on the Avs roster, when healthy. Same for Newhook, who is the teams 3C currently.

He is only 20 or 21 years old and in his rookie contract, granted defenseman take longer to develop but we've also seen young defenseman assume the top 2 pairings and become impactful immediately.

Patrick kane would be of a greater impact in Colorado this year and next and have more ice time than any of those kids... He is still a 80 plus point guy and a clutch player , his experience alone is invaluable...

Those kids may someday be stars or just avg players , but the price to bring in a guy like kane is hefty but teams that go after him see it as a huge upgrade...

 

[strictlyrandy]

Most teams windows are only a couple of years especially with a salary cap that creates parity... age isn't the only factor . Chemistry , lucky bounces , goaltending, depth , injuries. Colorado was a better team last year and they still didn't make it to the finals...

Colorado could use some veteran leadership and players to get them over the hump...

You clearly know nothing about the Avs. Newhook is helping the team right now in his rookie year, so much so that the Avs already view him as the 2c to replace Kadri, Byram isn’t a prospect either and was already an important piece to the d core before he got hurt. You saw an opportunity to clown on the Avs and just stuck your foot in your proverbial mouth instead. Take the L and move on. The whole argument about how long windows last is subjective per team… the Avs window is not just 2-3 years. If that were the case they’d be missing the playoffs this year.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Still waiting to hear from you Avs fans on why Byram holds any trade value at all considering the liklihood he never plays again

 

[strictlyrandy]

Still waiting to hear from you Avs fans on why Byram holds any trade value at all considering the liklihood he never plays again

What source do you have that says he isn’t likely to ever play again? Because every other source that has talked to people close to the situation said they won’t be surprised if he comes back sooner rather than later.

Avs fans aren’t trying to trade Byram. We prefer he stays because we know his potential and how good he was before he went down. Concussions take time to heal.

So instead of saying he has zero value (which, just isn’t true…maybe not full value cus valid enough concerns, but to suggest zero is really silly and makes you look dumb), acknowledge that he has value to the Avs and we aren’t trying to trade him and nobody wants Kane at any price mentioned here.

 

[JoeSakic13]

Still waiting to hear from you Avs fans on why Byram holds any trade value at all considering the liklihood he never plays again

Yeah you probably didn’t get a response because thinking there’s a high likelihood he never plays again shows you haven’t looked into it at all.