Auston Matthews (Trade or Keep)? (CANNOT re-sign before July 1st. - NMC July 1st.)

[Lightsol]

The answer is quite simple - Keep Matthews,

Trade Marner for Karlsson +

95 Leafs here we come!

 

[hamzarocks]

ewwwwwwww


the way the idiots here are talking we should get a some garbage players a first rounder for him;

Matthews has 2 years being a top 5 player

Hes overrated as f***

 

[WillNy29]

Matthews has 2 years being a top 5 player

Hes overrated as f***

we legit have the dumbest fanbase on earth...cant wait till y'all run out star players and then whine about being stuck in the doldrums of the league.

 

[hamzarocks]

we legit have the dumbest fanbase on earth...cant wait till y'all run out star players and then whine about being stuck in the doldrums of the league.

Nope this fanbase is used to mediocrity so they worship the likes of matthews and marner

 

[mikeyz]

My preference is to have him remain with the team. I really wouldn't want to see the club take a step back when they finally took that step forward (even if one is of the opinion that it wasn't quite enough).

What step forward? 1 playoff round win in 7 years? (And they got extremely lucky they didn’t lose that playoff round)

we legit have the dumbest fanbase on earth...cant wait till y'all run out star players and then whine about being stuck in the doldrums of the league.

Yeah.......... Matthews certainly lit the lamp in that Florida series didn’t he???

 

[Aashir Mallik]

You don't trade a generational 1C and expect your team to be better.

Unfortunately we don’t have that

We have a number 1 Center who this year was a top 10ish Center and had a 2 year peak of being a top 3 Center.

Maybe that’s just it, maybe Matthews is actually a 90-95 point player who had a career year

So your statement doesn’t apply

 

[Kiwi]

Trade him

He's going to demand a massive amount of money he doesn't deserve on his next deal and he's always going to be a passive soft easily bullied no show when things get tough

 

[centipede2233]

You are trolling.


There is ZERO chance he takes lower or even the same. He will point to his trophies and say he wants a top 5 contracts in the League going forward.

Marner will get jealous and say, "I have more points than Matthews, so I want similar money".

It's gonna be a mess.

Leafs are screwed regardless, but I hate seeing incompetence being rewarded, time for new incompetence to give them a chance

 

[the real Fox mulder]

Matthew (50% retained and sign extension with LA) +Liljegren
for
Byfield
Clarke
Vilardi
Petersen (Buyout, $5,166,667 cap hit next season, then $1,166,667 for 2 more season)
2023 2nd rd pick
2023 3rd rd pick Pit
2024 1st rd pick La


Use pick to trade Murray

 

[WillNy29]

Matthew (50% retained and sign extension with LA) +Liljegren
for
Byfield
Clarke
Vilardi
Petersen (Buyout, $5,166,667 cap hit next season, then $1,166,667 for 2 more season)
2023 2nd rd pick
2023 3rd rd pick Pit
2024 1st rd pick La


Use pick to trade Murray

do you enjoy missing the playoffs?

 

[sampollock]

He rid think before July 1

 

[WillNy29]

Nope this fanbase is used to mediocrity so they worship the likes of matthews and marner

lol...it'll be the same the next guy will get chased out too. why would free agents wanna sign here when we Larry Murphy everyone.

Probably best to not have a star centre on this team

 

[Lightsol]

do you enjoy missing the playoffs?

Easier to whine every year if you can't make the playoffs.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

do you enjoy missing the playoffs?

What would you do?

Run it back with the core yet again? Sign bunting to whatever he wants? How do you bring back Schenn, acciari, and oreilly? Who replaces holl?

 

[WillNy29]

What would you do?

Run it back with the core yet again? Sign bunting to whatever he wants? How do you bring back Schenn, acciari, and oreilly? Who replaces holl?

no you make the right moves and trade pieces that are easier to move; you absolutely do not get rid of your 1c. If all the shit you idiots are typing about him is the perception then how the hell do you think he's going to get a good return. You're going to lose that trade and then all of a sudden your team is garbage and you're out and about looking for a 1C.

People here love talking about how you build from the net to the D through Center and that wingers are easier to replace but also at the same time want to run a back to back rocket winning centre out. what is wrong with people here? the guy went 8 straight games in the playoffs with a point and scored critical goals in round 1. He got snakebit in round 2 and is obviously in need of wrist surgery.

what is your realistic change? lets get rid of Matthews, Marner and co. because they suck but somehow get amazing returns that we can stay competitive in the hardest division in hockey? You good with missing the playoffs for another decade?

 

[the real Fox mulder]

do you enjoy missing the playoffs?

I still think this team makes the playoff with my trade proposal, most likely in the wild card spot. The team will be better over time.

 

[hfman]

There's just something a little aloof about Matthews, like nothing about this game really matters to him. "Life isn't all about hockey" is the feeling he gives off - and can we blame him? It's true. But a true winner doesn't think that way unfortunately. He's entering his late 20s soon yet he seems to come off like a teenager in interviews, especially interviews outside of hockey.

Another thing that shocked me ---

He'll be 27 at the start of the upcoming season. Wow. The same age as when Tavares signed here- and when JT signed here, some of us were saying that while 27 is still young, it's close to the end of most player's primes, and now they move on to the next stage of their careers which usually isn't quite as fruit-bearing as their first 7 or 8 years. In other words, the decline (slowly) begins.

Matthews - 27 for next season? Believe it or not, this guy's prime might already be behind him. If not, he's getting there. At the very least he's at his pinnacle. Hard to believe but it's a fact.

6 or 7 playoffs with no action from him. That's more than enough of a sample size now- he is what he is. Enough is enough. We don't need 10 years to figure it out.

 

[WillNy29]

I still think this team makes the playoff with my trade proposal, most likely in the wild card spot. The team will be better over time.

lmao no they wouldn't have you seen the division around you? Boston, Tampa, Florida, Buffalo, Ottawa all will be in the race to make the playoffs then you have to deal with NJ, Carolina, NYR, Pittsburgh so pray tell how do you make the playoffs?; this team won't have a 1C so it won't be in that race. Byfield is garbage, and the rest is meh. prospects and picks and vilardi.

 

[JKG33]

Matthews to LA

Byfield + Pizza Man (Danault) + 1st

Why does LA do that?

we legit have the dumbest fanbase on earth...cant wait till y'all run out star players and then whine about being stuck in the doldrums of the league.

As opposed to now, when they're... stuck in the doldrums of the league?

Your first point is correct, just not for the reasons you think

 

[Aashir Mallik]

no you make the right moves and trade pieces that are easier to move; you absolutely do not get rid of your 1c. If all the shit you idiots are typing about him is the perception then how the hell do you think he's going to get a good return. You're going to lose that trade and then all of a sudden your team is garbage and you're out and about looking for a 1C.

People here love talking about how you build from the net to the D through Center and that wingers are easier to replace but also at the same time want to run a back to back rocket winning centre out. what is wrong with people here? the guy went 8 straight games in the playoffs with a point and scored critical goals in round 1. He got snakebit in round 2 and is obviously in need of wrist surgery.

what is your realistic change? lets get rid of Matthews, Marner and co. because they suck but somehow get amazing returns that we can stay competitive in the hardest division in hockey? You good with missing the playoffs for another decade?

What would those right moves be?

Nylander? Marner? Tavares? Rielly? Kerfoot? Brodie?

Matthews got snakebit? That’s seems to happen a f*** ton of times. Columbus, Montreal, now florida. Why does it seem to happen so often to a “generational” player.

As for the surgery thing, it’s very concerning that he’s needed another surgery. Are you willing to pay 12-13 million for that type of guy

Fair or not, people have given their opinions on what the team should do. All you’ve done is shot on them and have given a bland as f*** answer as to what you’d do

 

[WillNy29]

Why does LA do that?


As opposed to now, when they're... stuck in the doldrums of the league?

Your first point is correct, just not for the reasons you think

ok so then how do you get a 1C? we just rebuilt and got one and now lets start it over again. What an idiot thing to say.

 

[JKG33]

ok so then how do you get a 1C? we just rebuilt and got one and now lets start it over again. What an idiot thing to say.

And what did the rebuild and this dazzling 1C accomplish? Oh right, a single victory in the 2nd rd. LMAO keep making excuses for this shit team

 

[WillNy29]

What would those right moves be?

Nylander? Marner? Tavares? Rielly? Kerfoot? Brodie?

Matthews got snakebit? That’s seems to happen a f*** ton of times. Columbus, Montreal, now florida. Why does it seem to happen so often to a “generational” player.

As for the surgery thing, it’s very concerning that he’s needed another surgery. Are you willing to pay 12-13 million for that type of guy

Fair or not, people have given their opinions on what the team should do. All you’ve done is shot on them and have given a bland as f*** answer as to what you’d do

move Marner? because like everyone used to say during the kessel years wingers aren't as important...

since I think he's a good player you could likely build a package around him for Kyle Connor or something and come out better for it when you have two goal scoring threats on the same line with Matthews and Connor

Move Tavares? he's past his prime

let go of holl and kerfoot rebuild defense around Reilly (who this whole board hated for half the season). Keep Reilly, Liljegren, McCabe

give the reigns to woll


you keep making stupid posts never say who you'd replace these players with that you are calling garbage. if they are garbage how will you get good players for them? Are you willing to tear it down and end up like the Sabres or flyers? how do you plan to get a 1C?

 

[JKG33]

There's just something a little aloof about Matthews, like nothing about this game really matters to him. "Life isn't all about hockey" is the feeling he gives off - and can we blame him? It's true. But a true winner doesn't think that way unfortunately. He's entering his late 20s soon yet he seems to come off like a teenager in interviews, especially interviews outside of hockey.

Another thing that shocked me ---

He'll be 27 at the start of the upcoming season. Wow. The same age as when Tavares signed here- and when JT signed here, some of us were saying that while 27 is still young, it's close to the end of most player's primes, and now they move on to the next stage of their careers which usually isn't quite as fruit-bearing as their first 7 or 8 years. In other words, the decline (slowly) begins.

Matthews - 27 for next season? Believe it or not, this guy's prime might already be behind him. If not, he's getting there. At the very least he's at his pinnacle. Hard to believe but it's a fact.

6 or 7 playoffs with no action from him. That's more than enough of a sample size now- he is what he is. Enough is enough. We don't need 10 years to figure it out.

I agree 100%. It's an NBA mentality. He'd rather be off shooting TV commercials and hanging out with Bieber at UFC events. It's why this team is perfect for him. He doesn't even have to bother with the playoffs and still gets worshipped by half the fan base.

We don't need 10 years, and we really shouldn't have needed 7 when some of us had it figured out after 4.

 

[WillNy29]

And what did the rebuild and this dazzling 1C accomplish? Oh right, a single victory in the 2nd rd. LMAO keep making excuses for this shit team

still didn't answer how you get a 1C? what did Sundin accomplish? no cups? what did McDavid accomplish? no cups? doesn't mean they weren't 1Cs that are integral to winning and building a good team.