Rob Brown
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Your takes just keep getting worse and worse.
Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96
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Matthews has only 2 empty net goals all season. Two….
2…..ummm yeah.
Ya but honestly that was actually pretty nice. he fought and dangled guys at his blue line and still shot it in. It wasnt really a typical fire and shoot.
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He obviously did not check the stats before he posted to see that there are only 2 empty net goals. On top of that, the one tonight was a very elite defensive play to get that goal. Very impressive.
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I guess you missed a mere few posts later where I thought about what The90 said, admitted I was wrong, and posted it for all to read.
Strangle
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Anyone using empty netters to try to minimize Matthews is an utter donkey. He has 2 all season, and only 10 in his entire career.
Ovechkin by comparison has 57.
Ovechkin by comparison has 57.
The empty net goal last night was actually pretty impressive, he made some nice defensive plays and good stick work to get that puck in the net. But yeah 2 empty net goals, still scored 60 without em.
He's no Tim Stutzle, but he seems to be growing on people.
Was his empty net goal unimpressive? I thought that it was more impressive than his "proper" goal in this match. Am I wrong?
You’d like to think so, but it wouldn’t change a thing. Connor McDavid has put up 53 points in 28 playoff games the past two seasons and he’s still a bum according to half the posters on this forum.
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Man is such an empty net goal scoring merchant that he cant even break the top 25 this season for empty net goals! Insane.
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Gretzky had 56, and I don't see anyone dinging him for it. Goals are goals, someone has to score them.
Then again, if empty-net goals are really some diminishing factor: here's all the 60+ goal seasons where the player had 0 ENGs in the total.
Brett Hull - 86 in 1990-91
Phil Esposito - 76 in 1970-71
Brett Hull - 72 in 1989-90
Brett Hull - 70 in 1991-92
Mike Bossy - 69 in 1978-79
Reggie Leach - 61 in 1975-76
Mike Bossy - 60 in 1982-83
Guy Lafleur - 60 in 1977-78
Steve Shutt - 60 in 1976-77
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Matthews is starting to heat up again, just in time for the playoffs.
If we look at all the games where he didn't get lucky and ignore the games where he did get lucky, Matthews actually has 0 goals and assists on the year !
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Yeah, I was thinking the same Timmy stu only needs 1 more point to reach 70 this year. Wonder if it’ll be a goal or assist?Maybe he’ll empty net his way to 70
Edit: didn’t realize this was actually a Matthews goal thread/ he’s only 7 back of Stutzle’s point totals, with only goals lol
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When Ovechkin scores an empty net goal: "Great job darling, you earned it sweetie. Score all the empty netters you like."
When Matthews scores an empty netter: "Doesn't count. He's an empty net merchant, a fraud. In fact, they should count as a minus on his goal total."
When Matthews scores an empty netter: "Doesn't count. He's an empty net merchant, a fraud. In fact, they should count as a minus on his goal total."
In this thread:
- When McDavid scores an empty-netter, only goals put behind a goalie should count.
- When AM scores an empty-netter, all goal counts.
All this discussion about emptynetters was started by a Leafs fan trying to argue that McD basically scored 60 goals last season.
TheDoldrums
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dionne never lead the league in goals and matthews is collecting his 3rd rocket in 4 years, nah
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SkinsFan09
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Gretzky was No. 1 in ENG until recently so guess he was a merchant.
The year COVID stopped the season Matthews had 47 in 70 GP and Ovechkin had 48 in 68 GP. Both of them could have gotten hot and made a run at 60.
This is completely incorrect.
The first half of the season Toronto had absolutely atrocious goaltending and only won games because of the efforts of Matthews and Nylander, who normally alternated great games.
Matthews has almost all of his goals in tight situations:
Jamie Maclennan said it on the radio a couple weeks back - one of his buddies runs an advanced stats site and they track goals scored either down by a goal, tied, or up by 1.
Almost all of Matthews' goals fall into those categories.
Which makes almost all of his goals crucial to the success of the team.
Very rarely has he scored the 5th goal of a blowout, or empty net goals.
Also, he had scored almost 1/4 of the team's goals this year, despite still ranking in the 50s of players' power play time on ice.
Dr Pepper
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Is there a website that tracks the opposite of empty netters? Goals that are scored by the attacking team, with their own goalie pulled?
NHL Stats
The official source for NHL Stats including skaters, goalies, teams stats and more.
www.nhl.com
Can't tell who scored the goals but I bet Matthews probably has at least half of Toronto's league-leading nine goals at 6 on 5.....I'm assuming most of these are late in the game, although there are probably some "delayed penalty" goals mixed in there as well.
I was at the Columbus game where Matthews scored twice with the extra attacker, and even at that point I think he'd already had like 3 or 4 game tying goals on the season.
Exactly, trying to drag someone down over empty net goals is ridiculous. Especially when we are talking about the best goalscorers of entire generations.
