Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96

[Ol' Jase]

Honestly, without a doubt he would have

EDIT: There were only five different opponents for each Canadian team that year. Five

It’s absolutely impossible to use 2020-21 as pace for anything. It’s wild how easily people forget what that season actually looked like.

 

[Martin Skoula]

EDIT: There were only five different opponents for each Canadian team that year. Five

It’s absolutely impossible to use 2020-21 as pace for anything. It’s wild how easily people forget what that season actually looked like.

Matthews and McDavid both followed it up with normal seasons hitting those same peaks though, we’re not talking about a pace they hit in the bubble exclusively. In fact both of them have had more productive streaks of 56 games outside the bubble in the season or two after.

 

[Strangle]

Matthews and McDavid both followed it up with normal seasons hitting those same peaks though, we’re not talking about a pace they hit in the bubble exclusively. In fact both of them have had more productive streaks of 56 games outside the bubble in the season or two after.

Ya they’ve done it outside of the bubble, I’m not sure what that guy is getting at.

They weren’t at all anomalous seasons for Matthews or McDavid

 

[Ol' Jase]

Matthews and McDavid both followed it up with normal seasons hitting those same peaks though, we’re not talking about a pace they hit in the bubble exclusively. In fact both of them have had more productive streaks of 56 games outside the bubble in the season or two after.

Yes, the seasons that they actually did it count infinitely more than the seasons that they “probably” would have done it.

What we don’t see is anyone saying that McDavid has essentially hit 150 points twice in his career.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Ya they’ve done it outside of the bubble, I’m not sure what that guy is getting at.

They weren’t at all anomalous seasons for Matthews or McDavid

He followed up 41 in 52 in the bubble with an unofficial 50 in 50 in a normal season, only argument I can see against using the Covid season for pace is that the other teams would have tightened up and hard focused on him and McDavid but if it takes you 52 games to figure that out I don’t have high hopes for the last 30.

 

[34]

What secondary assists? What are you talking about?

29 goals


Matthews is not far off from having more goals than McDavid and Draisaitl combined.

 

[Ol' Jase]

29 goals


Matthews is not far off from having more goals than McDavid and Draisaitl combined.

Again, what are you talking about? What does that have to do with secondary assists?

 

[Ol' Jase]

29 goals


Matthews is not far off from having more goals than McDavid and Draisaitl combined.

And Zach Hyman has 8 less goals than Matthews.

I still don’t get how that applies to secondary assists.

McDavid and Draisaitl also have over 150 combined assists this year. I honestly don’t understand what point you’re trying to make here.

 

[Divine]

One less game and 6 more PP. Is that a valid argument for a “huge difference”?

The Oilers had 29 more PP that Toronto last year over the course of 82 games. Basically one extra PP opportunity every three games.

The idea that somehow the league is inherently biased against the Leafs now is dialling up the absurd to astronomical levels.

That's a pretty big difference actually.

Sign me up for 29 extra powerplays a season.

 

[34]

And Zach Hyman has 8 less goals than Matthews.

I still don’t get how that applies to secondary assists.

McDavid and Draisaitl also have over 150 combined assists this year. I honestly don’t understand what point you’re trying to make here.

No one cares about assists in the weak Pacific division.


Hyman has done this once in his career. He will never do it again. Just a merchant of McDavids passing. No multiple 60 goal Seasons, No multiple Rockets, No 50 goals in 50 games.


Oh look, Matthews just scored again. There is 61. The very best in the business.

 

[Ol' Jase]

No one cares about assists in the weak Pacific division.


Hyman has done this once in his career. He will never do it again. Just a merchant of McDavids passing. No multiple 60 goal Seasons, No multiple Rockets, No 50 goals in 50 games.


Oh look, Matthews just scored again. There is 61.

What. Are. You. Talking. About?

First it’s secondary assists. Then “29 goals”. Now it’s the Pacific Division.

Good god, man, you couldn’t be more all over the map here.

 

[Strangle]

Why do oilers fans sound so insecure?

You guys have maybe the most talented hockey player of all time leading your team and the entire league.

Act like you’ve been there before, cause you have

 

[Senor Catface]

Why do oilers fans sound so insecure?

You guys have maybe the most talented hockey player of all time leading your team and the entire league.

Act like you’ve been there before, cause you have

Why do Maple Leaf fans sound so insecure?

You guys have maybe the best goal scorer in the NHL.

Why are they whining about secondary assists and the Pacific?

 

[Strangle]

Why do Maple Leaf fans sound so insecure?

You guys have maybe the best goal scorer in the NHL.

Why are they whining about secondary assists and the Pacific?

Well, with all do respect we DO have the best goal scorer in the NHL

 

[Auston Marlander]

Why do Maple Leaf fans sound so insecure?

You guys have maybe the best goal scorer in the NHL.

Why are they whining about secondary assists and the Pacific?

It's a thread about goals..why are total points being discussed?

 

[Senor Catface]

It's a thread about goals..why are total points being discussed?

In any topic that reaches 80 pages, conversations will diverge here and there. But you'll have to ask the people talking about it.

 

[Strangle]

In any topic that reaches 80 pages, conversations will diverge here and there. But you'll have to ask the people talking about it.

Center of the universe, don’t forget it

 

[34]

I am honestly completely baffled by this.

GOALS, we are talking about GOALS.


NOT ASSISTS! I could not care less.

 

[Ol' Jase]

GOALS, we are talking about GOALS.


NOT ASSISTS! I could not care less.

But YOU brought up some ridiculous “secondary assist” thing. No one else did that.

 

[JukofYork]

Auston 'Brett Hull' Mathews gets 61 tonight.

Sicko

 

[authentic]

Austin 'Brett Hull' Mathews gets 61 tonight.

Sicko

More like Bobby

 

[North Cole]

One less game and 6 more PP. Is that a valid argument for a “huge difference”?

The Oilers had 29 more PP that Toronto last year over the course of 82 games. Basically one extra PP opportunity every three games.

The idea that somehow the league is inherently biased against the Leafs now is dialling up the absurd to astronomical levels.

No that's not a significant difference. Even 29 is nothing, that's 6.9 extra goals, less than 3% of their total production.

 

[JukofYork]

Wayne Mathews with a gorgeous empty netter 62 goals.

 

[TheDoldrums]

uh oh...he learned how to score empty netters

 

[Apex Predator]

Does he do it? 70?