Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

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Form Mikko thread:
Yeah, and Mitts didn't learn his lesson. Mikko found a way around it.

No one buys my fatigue theory anyway.

It's an injury, or psychological.

I think it's part fatigue due to the style he wants to play and part this is who Mitts is.

I think ordinarily he's an inconsistent 60 point kind of guy at the end of the season, with multiple hot and cold streaks, but the cold streak has been longer this season, because he might have hit a wall physically trying to do too much.

I always had concerns that he seems to goes full out 100% every shift with his skating, while also having to do what's required in Bednar's system. He'd try to win battles in the corner against bigger guys, holding onto the puck and playing off the contact for his possession game, then have to skate hard on the back check later.

I've lost track of the amount of times I've seen Mitts have a taxing shift in the O zone, then at the end of his shift, have to put his head down, and hustle back to prevent an odd man rush after a turnover when he's clearly gassed. He just often looks like he's skating too hard and trying to do too much.

Props to him for caring, and putting in the effort, but It just doesn't seem sustainable over 82 games + playoffs for him. I'm not sure he has the natural athleticism required to do that consistently.
 
Form Mikko thread:


I think it's part fatigue due to the style he wants to play and part this is who Mitts is.

I think ordinarily he's an inconsistent 60 point kind of guy at the end of the season, with multiple hot and cold streaks, but the cold streak has been longer this season, because he might have hit a wall physically trying to do too much.

I always had concerns that he seems to goes full out 100% every shift with his skating, while also having to do what's required in Bednar's system. He'd try to win battles in the corner against bigger guys, holding onto the puck and playing off the contact for his possession game, then have to skate hard on the back check later.

I've lost track of the amount of times I've seen Mitts have a taxing shift in the O zone, then at the end of his shift, have to put his head down, and hustle back to prevent an odd man rush after a turnover when he's clearly gassed. He just often looks like he's skating too hard and trying to do too much.

Props to him for caring, and putting in the effort, but It just doesn't seem sustainable over 82 games + playoffs for him. I'm not sure he has the natural athleticism required to do that consistently.
Where does he live in the offseason? Wonder if it is a matter of altitude.
 
Form Mikko thread:


I think it's part fatigue due to the style he wants to play and part this is who Mitts is.

I think ordinarily he's an inconsistent 60 point kind of guy at the end of the season, with multiple hot and cold streaks, but the cold streak has been longer this season, because he might have hit a wall physically trying to do too much.

I always had concerns that he seems to goes full out 100% every shift with his skating, while also having to do what's required in Bednar's system. He'd try to win battles in the corner against bigger guys, holding onto the puck and playing off the contact for his possession game, then have to skate hard on the back check later.

I've lost track of the amount of times I've seen Mitts have a taxing shift in the O zone, then at the end of his shift, have to put his head down, and hustle back to prevent an odd man rush after a turnover when he's clearly gassed. He just often looks like he's skating too hard and trying to do too much.

Props to him for caring, and putting in the effort, but It just doesn't seem sustainable over 82 games + playoffs for him. I'm not sure he has the natural athleticism required to do that consistently.

It makes me a little irritated when people say he's looked lazy. Anything but..

Mikko learned to chery pick based on his talent and shot. Makes sense why he never wanted to be a center here.

Mitts can be fine, he just needs to adapt, apparently the hard way.

Through repetition the body adapts, as long as you give it the necessary fuel.

I should have done way more fitness related stuff before I joined the Army lol. I was a computer nerd signing up for the hardest job. It took a lot of pain, but I adapted, and thrived at an elite level.

Just depends how much you want it.
 
Where does he live in the offseason? Wonder if it is a matter of altitude.

Not sure, but I don't think it would be altitude at this point. He should be acclimatized like the rest of the team.

I'm just speculating, but I feel like it may just be an issue of trying to do more than he's capable of. I could be wrong, but he doesn't seem to have the same natural athleticism as other guys.

I think he even said he worked on his conditioning a lot in in the off season too. May just be a limit to what his body is capable of, I don't know.

A guy like Lehky for example I think may be a better natural athlete to play that high motor style, and he also finds time to coast every now and then to recover during a shift, before going hard again.

Mitts just always seems to be skating at 100% of what he's capable of. Or close to it. When he's skating in transition with or without the puck. When he's spinning back and forth with the puck down low. Then on the backcheck.

Doesn't seems sustainable to me, unless you're a really high level athlete.
 
No doubt they would improve on 2C if there was a proven player available in exchange for Mitts. I don't think Mitts has done anything that Pärssinen can't do in his place at only a 775k cap hit.

Let's not go crazy with this talk here. I like Parsnip but I want him to just up and replace Wood full time. Ship Wood to Arizona and I guarantee he shows up in Glendale still confused as to where the NHL team went.
 
Not sure, but I don't think it would be altitude at this point. He should be acclimatized like the rest of the team.

I'm just speculating, but I feel like it may just be an issue of trying to do more than he's capable of. I could be wrong, but he doesn't seem to have the same natural athleticism as other guys.

I think he even said he worked on his conditioning a lot in in the off season too. May just be a limit to what his body is capable of, I don't know.

A guy like Lehky for example I think may be a better natural athlete to play that high motor style, and he also finds time to coast every now and then to recover during a shift, before going hard again.

Mitts just always seems to be skating at 100% of what he's capable of. Or close to it. When he's skating in transition with or without the puck. When he's spinning back and forth with the puck down low. Then on the backcheck.

Doesn't seems sustainable to me, unless you're a really high level athlete.
He has to play that way because of how poor a skater he is. If he isn't skating at 100% the entire time, he'll be even more behind the play.

He doesn't have the brain of a Ryan O'Reilly or Mark Stone to telegraph what is happening and stay ahead of the play.

He's just a very poor fit on this team.
 
He has to play that way because of how poor a skater he is. If he isn't skating at 100% the entire time, he'll be even more behind the play.

He doesn't have the brain of a Ryan O'Reilly or Mark Stone to telegraph what is happening and stay ahead of the play.

He's just a very poor fit on this team.

Yeah I think that's part of it.

Similar to Jost, who improved his skating year by year, but the league got faster every year, and Bednar has higher skating demands that seemingly eery other coach in the league, so it negated any gains he made.

Mitts seemed to improve his skating a bit in Buffalo, said he worked on his conditioning in the off season, but now he's being asked to do a lot more skating for Bednar than he ever did before, so it also might have negated any gains he made.

I agree on the ROR and Stone analagy too. They also play a more simple game, they don't try to make fancy low percentage plays, after giving 100% to hound pucks.
 
In addition to playing a more simple game, ROR and Stone are also bigger and stronger than Mitts, playing that physical puck battles/hard working defensive style.

Helps them absorb the contact better with their possession game and not have as many turnovers.
 
Surprised at all the Mitts hate going around lately.

Look, I'm not saying he's the best fit for this team, but:

1. He's playing better of late
2. Who do you propose we trade him for?

There's no reason to move Mitts just to move him. We moved a valuable piece for him and as I've said before, Mitts is a big game player in his career. If there's no obvious upgrade (which there isn't, barring Sid), it's best we just accept he's on the team this year and hope he continues to improve like he has lately and bring that big-game attitude into the playoffs.

Worst case maybe he moves to wing as Necas moves to C, we target another C for insulation, or he moves to the 3rd line - or all of the above - but I don't see a real case to move on from him at this moment.
 
I didn't realize Wood only has 3 points in 20 games. That's... not ideal when you're trying to dump his cap.
 
Jones is still easily a 1st pairing defenceman on a horrible, awful, atrocious Hawks team. People thinking he's rubbish are out to lunch. He'd be #2 on our team easily after Makar.
 
Surprised at all the Mitts hate going around lately.

Look, I'm not saying he's the best fit for this team, but:

1. He's playing better of late
2. Who do you propose we trade him for?

There's no reason to move Mitts just to move him. We moved a valuable piece for him and as I've said before, Mitts is a big game player in his career. If there's no obvious upgrade (which there isn't, barring Sid), it's best we just accept he's on the team this year and hope he continues to improve like he has lately and bring that big-game attitude into the playoffs.

Worst case maybe he moves to wing as Necas moves to C, we target another C for insulation, or he moves to the 3rd line - or all of the above - but I don't see a real case to move on from him at this moment.

I dont "hate" him....

But "playing better of late" doesnt help this team. Everyone knows how important that 2C is for the AVS.

And too bad wie moved a valuable piece for him. I really thought he could be the solution. And after signing his new contract and having plenty of time in the summer to prepare we got this.....

I say go after someone like O´Reilly because Nashville is done. Send them Mitts + .....

We wont win shit with our 2C playing like this for nearly 4 months....
 
EA Sports it's the Galaxy brain trade

Gulyayev+Colton
For
Nemec
-- ~4m

Nemec+Mitts ( Buffalo gets a correct side RD)
For
Cozens( if he goes off we've got him max term)
+~1.35 to cap

Wood+ivan²+Malinski...?
For
Jones @ 7.5



Roast away if you so choose, I'm a bit delirious
Basically that's Mittelstadt+ Colton + Gulyayev for Cozens. Pass
 

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