Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96

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I’d say the odds are pretty good that he does it.
Schedule seems like a toss up, games could go either way. Will be cool if he can hit that 70 mark but all hell will break loose here with the 70 goals vs. 100 assists crowd
 
Auston Matthews stats while Marner has been away for injury for 3+ weeks, the team has gone through a flu bug and missed top 6 players and Rielly has been out:

11GP: 8G - 10A - 18P

How much would he score without Marner giving him tap-ins?
 
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This is completely incorrect.

The first half of the season Toronto had absolutely atrocious goaltending and only won games because of the efforts of Matthews and Nylander, who normally alternated great games.

Matthews has almost all of his goals in tight situations:

Jamie Maclennan said it on the radio a couple weeks back - one of his buddies runs an advanced stats site and they track goals scored either down by a goal, tied, or up by 1.

Almost all of Matthews' goals fall into those categories.

Which makes almost all of his goals crucial to the success of the team.

Very rarely has he scored the 5th goal of a blowout, or empty net goals.


Also, he had scored almost 1/4 of the team's goals this year, despite still ranking in the 50s of players' power play time on ice.



I decided to do a little more in-depth into this.

Of the 62 goals scored thus far,

Matthews has scored 46 of his goals in wins, 7 goals in overtime losses, and 9 goals in regulation losses.

He has 9 first goals in the game thus far.

5 goals scored in order to bring the team from down 2 goals to within 1.

15 goals to tie games.

18 goals to take the lead - this includes the 9 first goal of the game situations.

12 goals to give the team a 2 goal lead.

That means that of the 62 goals scored this season, only 12 haven't really had any effect on the outcome of the game.


Matthews Goal Effects 2023-2024 Season
Goal #Game #Leafs ScoreOpponent Score1st GoalDown 2Tying GoalGo AheadInsuranceWin?
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1​
yw
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3​
w
7​
6​
4​
0​
w
8​
10​
2​
2​
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11​
2​
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yl
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11​
3​
3​
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11​
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4​
yl
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12​
2​
4​
w
13​
12​
3​
4​
yw
14​
17​
1​
1​
yw
15​
22​
1​
2​
yotl
16​
22​
3​
3​
yotl
17​
24​
2​
0​
yw
18​
24​
3​
0​
w
19​
25​
1​
0​
yyotl
20​
26​
1​
0​
yyw
21​
26​
6​
3​
w
22​
27​
4​
5​
yotl
23​
27​
5​
5​
yotl
24​
29​
1​
1​
yl
25​
29​
2​
2​
yl
26​
30​
1​
1​
yl
27​
31​
1​
0​
yyw
28​
31​
3​
1​
yw
29​
33​
2​
1​
yotl
30​
36​
2​
1​
yw
31​
38​
2​
0​
yw
32​
39​
2​
1​
yw
33​
39​
3​
1​
yw
34​
42​
1​
0​
yyl
35​
43​
1​
2​
yw
36​
43​
2​
2​
yw
37​
43​
4​
2​
yw
38​
45​
1​
0​
yyw
39​
46​
1​
0​
yyw
40​
47​
3​
1​
yw
41​
49​
3​
2​
yw
42​
50​
1​
0​
yyl
43​
52​
1​
1​
yw
44​
52​
2​
1​
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45​
52​
3​
1​
yw
46​
53​
1​
0​
yyw
47​
53​
5​
1​
w
48​
53​
7​
1​
w
49​
54​
2​
1​
yw
50​
55​
2​
0​
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51​
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4​
2​
yw
52​
56​
7​
3​
w
53​
59​
3​
0​
w
54​
62​
2​
1​
yw
55​
65​
4​
1​
w
56​
68​
1​
0​
yyw
57​
68​
3​
1​
yw
58​
69​
6​
3​
w
59​
71​
3​
2​
yl
60​
73​
3​
0​
w
61​
74​
2​
0​
yw
62​
74​
6​
4​
yw
1st Goals
9​
Goals to go within 1
5​
Game tying goals
15​
Go ahead goals
18​
Insurance goals
12​
Goals scored in wins
46​
Goals scored in OTL
7​
Goals scored in losses
9​
 
Auston Matthews stats while Marner has been away for injury for 3+ weeks, the team has gone through a flu bug and missed top 6 players and Rielly has been out:

11GP: 8G - 10A - 18P

How much would he score without Marner giving him tap-ins?
Is that good?

I decided to do a little more in-depth into this.

Of the 62 goals scored thus far,

Matthews has scored 46 of his goals in wins, 7 goals in overtime losses, and 9 goals in regulation losses.

He has 9 first goals in the game thus far.

5 goals scored in order to bring the team from down 2 goals to within 1.

15 goals to tie games.

18 goals to take the lead - this includes the 9 first goal of the game situations.

12 goals to give the team a 2 goal lead.

That means that of the 62 goals scored this season, only 12 haven't really had any effect on the outcome of the game.


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I love when you bring facts to a shitty argument
 
I love when you bring facts to a shitty argument


I decided to do the same for the other 3 Hart Trophy candidates this season.

This is how Kucherov, Mackinnon, and McDavid compare to Matthews:

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[TD]McDavid[/TD]

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[/TD]

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[/TD]

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[/TD]

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[TD]12[/TD]
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[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]
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[TD]
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[TD]24[/TD]
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[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
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[TD]Goals scored in losses[/TD]

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[/TD]

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[TD]5[/TD]
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Auston Matthews stats while Marner has been away for injury for 3+ weeks, the team has gone through a flu bug and missed top 6 players and Rielly has been out:

11GP: 8G - 10A - 18P

How much would he score without Marner giving him tap-ins?
Very true. Matthews has been charging along without Marner on his wing. Goes to show just how amazing he really is. AM34 is a Generational.
 
Well, McDavid is certainly a better player than Matthews. Surely that isn’t up for discussion.
Yup. He is.

What IS up for discussion, especially in this thread about goal scoring, is that Matthews is the best goal scorer this league has seen in quite a while.

He’s a better goal scorer than McDavid. Surely that isn’t up for discussion ;)
 
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Well, McDavid is certainly a better player than Matthews. Surely that isn’t up for discussion.
Matthews is a WAY better goal scorer than McDavid, it is not even close. No debate. Matthews is the best goal scorer in the World. No one is on his level.

McDavid is a faster skater and better passer. It is McDavids speed that makes him so successful, his ability to make plays at full speed.

Both McDavid and Matthews are 2 of the very best Generational players in the World. Edmonton and Toronto are lucky to have them.
 
Yup. He is.

What IS up for discussion, especially in this thread about goal scoring, is that Matthews is the best goal scorer this league has seen in quite a while.

He’s a better goal scorer than McDavid. Surely that isn’t up for discussion ;)
Yes, Matthews is a better goal scorer than McDavid.
 
Anyone using empty netters to try to minimize Matthews is an utter donkey. He has 2 all season, and only 10 in his entire career.

Ovechkin by comparison has 57.

“Empty net goals are for p***yes”
- Auston Matthews

Toronto only has eight games left, but the odds are decent. Probably like 30%

I think it’s 50% if he can go goal per game + to end the season
 
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70 this season is still possible, but not very likely. Hopefully he gets 66 to pass Ovechkin (65) and McDavid (64) for most goals in a single season in the 21st century.
 
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Very very impressive stat

1712106036461.jpeg
 
Maybe I’m missing something here but when I calculate Gretzky’s goals per game his first eight seasons I get 0.86 (and I surmise he had decent average assists per game as well). Is the number in the graphic including seasons Matthews didn’t play yet?
😂😂😂😂😂

It’s all three players ENTIRE CAREER averages

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
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Would be cool if he got 70 and the 3 scoring leaders all top 140 points. Could be a year like 92-93 where lots of seasons get referenced all the time.
 
The observation that old men Crosby and Ovechkin are still putting up good numbers highlights that todays league is incredibly easier to score in and that todays stats need an asterisk when comparing to greater that 10 years ago.
 
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It shouldnt. 70 goals is way more impressive than 100 assists. Both are sick but one is much more sicker
Well, 8 different players have scored 70 goals in a season. Only 3 players ever have scored 100 assists.

Can’t they both be equally sick?
 

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