Athletic Has Leafs as 3rd best in contract Values

[Dekes For Days]

It's a very small sample size of players at 10+ per cap hit in the cap era. Kane and Toews were the first, and that was in 2015-16. Not sure why people think that means so much.

It pretty obviously doesn't mean anything. The cap has only recently risen to a point where 10m+ contracts even exist. It's essentially the same as saying a few specific teams - most of which weren't even competitive - didn't win the cup over the past half decade.

But it's a flashy statement that sounds like it means more than it actually does, so of course it's used when people don't have legitimate arguments.

 

[Nico Hischier]

This guy ranks all the teams who have the best contracts and lists Florida number 1.... who has the worst contract in the league in bobrovsky. What a joke. And they want you to pay for this garbage?

 

[Dekes For Days]

This guy ranks all the teams who have the best contracts and lists Florida number 1.... who has the worst contract in the league in bobrovsky. What a joke.

Pretty sure goalies weren't included.

 

[Nico Hischier]

Pretty sure goalies weren't included.

They should be when you are ranking which teams have the best contracts...

 

[ACC1224]

This guy ranks all the teams who have the best contracts and lists Florida number 1.... who has the worst contract in the league in bobrovsky. What a joke. And they want you to pay for this garbage?

I don't think goalies were included.

 

[The Iceman]

Imagine think marner for 11mill is better than 2 players for 5m each. Even if he puts up more points than both combined he can only play 20 minutes. You still need to find players to play the rest of the game. Danault at 3m had very similar playoff points to matthews at 11m. How many Champions have just one line score an overwhelming majority of the teams points? What happens if someone can shut that line down for a few games? Did dom write this article? He makes his living selling positive words about the leafs.

How about $11million and $750K vs 2 guys $5.7 each.

 

[666]

I'm not sure why I could read the article without paying.
The problem, I believe, is that is uses the same stupid "stat" that gives every player a single value. This is the same stat the @zeke posted at the beginning of the playoffs to somehow show that Bunting and Kucherov were equal. It's just dumb and should be ignored.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I certainly don't need to pay the athletic a subscription fee to read takes like that.

 

[NoTeeth]

It pretty obviously doesn't mean anything. The cap has only recently risen to a point where 10m+ contracts even exist. It's essentially the same as saying a few specific teams - most of which weren't even competitive - didn't win the cup over the past half decade.

But it's a flashy statement that sounds like it means more than it actually does, so of course it's used when people don't have legitimate arguments.

And COVID means there are less 10+ than there would have been.

 

[NoTeeth]

Composed by leaf fan...

No way leafs are in the top 5 with top heavy forward contracts that have proven to be nothing more than a mistake hampering the team success.

Yet a team in the Leafs division (Florida) is #1 and the lack of goalies helps than far more than the Leafs.
And what does "Top Heavy" contracts mean? The guys paid a lot scores a ton. It's a mistake signing stars?

 

[Leaf Fans]

People keep saying “you can’t overpay stars!” and that’s kind of true on a business level but we also have yet to see a Cup winner with anybody making double digits.

We will soon.

What's the excuse for all the other teams who didn't win and have more balanced cap allocation?

We ignore them and change the narrative.

 

[Dekes For Days]

The problem, I believe, is that is uses the same stupid "stat" that gives every player a single value. This is the same stat the @zeke posted at the beginning of the playoffs to somehow show that Bunting and Kucherov were equal. It's just dumb and should be ignored.

Pretty sure that was comparing a full season of Bunting to half a season of Kucherov. But hey, don't let that stop you from arbitrarily dismissing stats.

 

[Havoc]

Makes sense.

Leafs problem has never been cap or bad contracts.

Not going to derail the thread with my opinion of who holds us back though.

 

[Menzinger]

While one can certainly take issue with the model, there's a clear logic to it

The Leafs spend the bulk of their money on their best players who in turn all tend to perform at high levels. And at the same time aren't carrying dead weight on terms of depth pieces (no 5 million 4th liners ect)

 

[AllDay28]

Couldn't imagine actually paying for this stuff

Coming from the dude with a link tree to his failing podcast.. classic.

 

[Nineteen67]

While technically true, it’s not really meaningful. 6 of the last 7 Stanley Cups were won by teams having at least one player at 9.5m

Do people really think an extra 500k makes it suddenly insurmountable?

I think it has more to do with the maturity of the players that signed those 9.5 mill contracts. In the very near future, teams without a 10 mill player will never win the Cup, and the narrative will change.

 

[nuck]

Kind of funny given the perception I still read everyday. Florida is 1st. Habs are last. Our ex GM who many claim should have keep kept to sign all the contracts has his team 25th.

NHL contract efficiency rankings: Grading every team in the league

Its the Athletic. As unbiased as Editor in Leaf.

 

[Bomber0104]

Proposal to change thread title: replace "Athletic" with "Leafs PR wing"

 

[Leaf Fans]

Proposal to change thread title: replace "Athletic" with "Leafs PR wing"

Why? The article is not a release from the Leafs PR wing. It is from the Athletic. Changing the title would be misleading.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Coming from the dude with a link tree to his failing podcast.. classic.

Yeesh.
You work at that place? Why do you care so much.

 

[Tarmore]

Any examples?


Did they expand on why Nylander is a 'B'?
I always thought the impression was he outperforms his contract.

They said 'has grown into his deal'

 

[Stamkos4life]

More like blogger Dom Luszczyszyn says Leafs have 3rd best contract values.

Acting like Dom has any sort of authority is silly.

The guy is wrong more often then the pro dubas crowd on here.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Acting like Dom has any sort of authority is silly.

The guy is wrong more often then the pro dubas crowd on here.

You have no authority to say that.

 

[LeafEgo]

Yet a team in the Leafs division (Florida) is #1 and the lack of goalies helps than far more than the Leafs.
And what does "Top Heavy" contracts mean? The guys paid a lot scores a ton. It's a mistake signing stars?

I suspect it alludes to the fact that Leafs have 40M and change to ice almost 20 remaining players - which not limited to, but include both goalies, the entire defensive corps, and all of the bottom six forwards.

In recent years this model has had difficulty finding success in the playoffs. Apparently our goalies, defensive corps, and bottom six forwards haven't been good enough.

 

[NoTeeth]

I suspect it alludes to the fact that Leafs have 40M and change to ice almost 20 remaining players - which not limited to, but include both goalies, the entire defensive corps, and all of the bottom six forwards.

In recent years this model has had difficulty finding success in the playoffs. Apparently our goalies, defensive corps, and bottom six forwards haven't been good enough.

I don't think it's as simple as that's the reason.