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ATD 2017 Draft Thread II

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The Borg Collective happily selects a man known equally for his goal scoring, leadership, and two way ability as he was for his mustache. A man who wrote the storybook ending to a long and fruitful career. A man who will bring experience, leadership, scoring, and grit to a line that will now be stacked with it. The Borg Collective select, none other than, RW Lanny McDonald

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Aka Lanny McBorgald
 
Hopefully Iceman is around.. Dwight is pretty excited to announce this next pick. :)
 
Seeing as it's 2 am in Sweden, I assume Iceman's gonna use his clock.

I'd like to leave my pick with someone. Anyone? Thanks.
 
What I found for Gardiner was that every Tigers defenseman until 1925-26 was a LHS. Who played which side, I don't know. In 1925-26, a HOF RHS D joined the team. It's probably safe to assume that Gardiner played LD that year. When Gardiner joined the Habs the next season, they had two other defenseman that played a meaningful number of games. One was Mantha who was a RHS, and the other guy was also a RHS. The same two guys along with Gardiner made up the defensive core for the Habs the next season. The same story applied when Gardiner joined the Hawks in 1928-29.

Moral of the story: Gardiner may or may not have played RD before 1925-26, but after this point, it's almost a certainty that he played LD.
 
Left handed Defenseman are used on the right side here all the time, and unless theres actually evidence that their play drastically dipped if they were forced to play there - like Fetisov, then we always give them credit. This really pisses me off if people aren't going to Give Gardiner credit for being himself on the right side - especially when he's been used there in the ATD multiple times.
 
monster_bertuzzi said:
Left handed Defenseman are used on the right side here all the time, and unless theres actually evidence that their play drastically dipped if they were forced to play there - like Fetisov, then we always give them credit. This really pisses me off if people aren't going to Give Gardiner credit for being himself on the right side - especially when he's been used there in the ATD multiple times.
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I won't not give him credit :laugh:
 
Sprague Cleghorn said:
What I found for Gardiner was that every Tigers defenseman until 1925-26 was a LHS. Who played which side, I don't know. In 1925-26, a HOF RHS D joined the team. It's probably safe to assume that Gardiner played LD that year. When Gardiner joined the Habs the next season, they had two other defenseman that played a meaningful number of games. One was Mantha who was a RHS, and the other guy was also a RHS. The same two guys along with Gardiner made up the defensive core for the Habs the next season. The same story applied when Gardiner joined the Hawks in 1928-29.

Moral of the story: Gardiner may or may not have played RD before 1925-26, but after this point, it's almost a certainty that he played LD.
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I think you missed a certain prominent RD who played for the Tigers the whole time Gardiner was there.

Based on his partners I think it's unlikely that Gardiner ever played the right side as his primary position in professional hockey.
 
overpass said:
I think you missed a certain prominent RD who played for the Tigers the whole time Gardiner was there.

Based on his partners I think it's unlikely that Gardiner ever played the right side as his primary position in professional hockey.
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I have little doubt the left side was his primary position - but can anyone prove his play dips on the right side?
 
monster_bertuzzi said:
I have little doubt the left side was his primary position - but can anyone prove his play dips on the right side?
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I think the burden of proof is on you that his play didn't dip on the right side, not the other way around.
 
Checking TDMM's bio he has some mentions of Gardiner specifically playing left D.


Regarding ATD use In my opinion I don't think we can assume a player can play his off side when we have no evidence of it. We see this as an issue all the time in the current NHL. Now if it's the other way around and you have a LHS who always played the right side in real life, I'm fine with him playing on the left in the ATD. I'm not saying I can't be convinced but I need something...a Dmen being an especially good puck handler or quotes about him having a very good backhand would be a start
 
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