ATD 2017 Draft Thread II
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jarek
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No. I had assumed, like most players, let alone defensemen, that he eased his way into this instead of starting that way.
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Alright after much deliberation and thinking I'm going to complete top line and select Bill Barber, LW
I'll add some two way play, strength, and goal scoring.
Accomplishments:
2x Stanley Cup (1974-75)
NHL 1st All-Star Team (1976)
2x NHL 2nd All-Star Team (1979, 1981)
2x Top 10 in Goals (1976 (5), 1978 (7))
Top 10 in Assists (1976 (9))
5x Top 10 in Goals (Playoffs) (1975 (7), 1976 (5), 1978 (5), 1980 (1), 1981 (4))
Top 10 in Assists (Playoffs) (1975 (5))
I'll add some two way play, strength, and goal scoring.
Accomplishments:
2x Stanley Cup (1974-75)
NHL 1st All-Star Team (1976)
2x NHL 2nd All-Star Team (1979, 1981)
2x Top 10 in Goals (1976 (5), 1978 (7))
Top 10 in Assists (1976 (9))
5x Top 10 in Goals (Playoffs) (1975 (7), 1976 (5), 1978 (5), 1980 (1), 1981 (4))
Top 10 in Assists (Playoffs) (1975 (5))
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jarek
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There's been a couple of good ones.
I don't understand what you're getting at.
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seventieslord
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I'm saying, you knew he was on the 2nd all-star team, so why would you not know he was his team's #1 defenseman?
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That was his sophomore year. He did finish 17th in all star voting in 2009, but impressive rookie defensemen have been known to pick up all star support when their ice time doesn't justify it.
seventieslord
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Regina selects Helmut Balderis, RW.
Balderis was an extremely creative, high flying offensive player who had 11 significant USSR seasons (1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, 11th in points) and was a complete offensive package (passing, shooting, puck carrying).
more: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=31309267#post31309267
Balderis was an extremely creative, high flying offensive player who had 11 significant USSR seasons (1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, 11th in points) and was a complete offensive package (passing, shooting, puck carrying).
more: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=31309267#post31309267
jarek
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Nevermind.
Regina selects Helmut Balderis, RW.
Balderis was an extremely creative, high flying offensive player who had 11 significant USSR seasons (1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, 11th in points) and was a complete offensive package (passing, shooting, puck carrying).
more: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=31309267#post31309267
Why do you feel the 5th, 7th, 9th and 11th point finishes are significant? We usually use % metrics, how did he fare against the top finishers in those seasons?
seventieslord
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I didn't realize there was a hard cutoff as to what constitutes "significant", and I don't really care considering Balderis has more than the typically acceptable number of top-end seasons to his name.
The 9th and 11th are probably the 65% and 61% in Sturm's bio.
Why do you feel 5th and 7th aren't significant? I mean sure, compared to his best 7 seasons they're not... honestly, what's really significant about that is that they're only his 8th and 9th best seasons.
jarek
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I just asked a question and you seem to have taken it personally.
I was just asking a question. That's all.
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seventieslord
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Just less international opportunity. Otherwise really similar.
i don't know if he's a "steal" - he used to be a huge steal, back when he was taken in the 300s, certainly the value differential is less now than it was then, but yes, I think he was the best offensive winger on the board after Dye was taken.
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Tkachuk and Balderis were my 2 guesses for those picks. I was very sure about Tkachuk (you need him for your PP), but was less sure on Balderis...2 good picks.
I like KF's Barber pick as well, chemistry-wise a good fit with Beliveau-St. Louis
I like KF's Barber pick as well, chemistry-wise a good fit with Beliveau-St. Louis
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Barber is a guy I wanted to assimilate but didnt know when to take him. A fine addition to any team
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Indiana Ice will select LW Markus "Nazzy" Naslund!
I was going for either him, Barber or Tkachuk so at least I got one of them to play on my top line.
I was going for either him, Barber or Tkachuk so at least I got one of them to play on my top line.
seventieslord
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There goes two of the guys I was gonna pick
wow, talk about a clutch trade on my part. Like I said, I didn't want to entertain the idea of taking someone else for that spot.
And a calculated risk by you, and you lost out, but hopefully picking earlier further down softens the blow.
Well done!
Your first line was fine offensively with the Dionne and Selanne duo. Your first line could have really used a physical/good defensive LW.
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Regina selects Helmut Balderis, RW.
Balderis was an extremely creative, high flying offensive player who had 11 significant USSR seasons (1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, 11th in points) and was a complete offensive package (passing, shooting, puck carrying).
more: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=31309267#post31309267
Do you guys have a VS2 for vodka consumption?
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seventieslord
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Absolutely. Plenty of time to get one though, plus naslund can play both wings.
Hawkey Town 18
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Keith Tkachuk - Doug Gilmour - Guy Lafleur is a nice upgraded recreation/reboot of the line Lafleur had his best years (similar styles as Lafleur's actual linemates, but both better players)
EDIT: I guess Gilmour's a lot more of a playmaker, but Lafleur can do either so it doesn't matter.
EDIT: I guess Gilmour's a lot more of a playmaker, but Lafleur can do either so it doesn't matter.
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