Player Discussion Artem Zub (D) Part 2 [Extended 4 years @ $4.6M]

[swiftwin]

LOL @ everyone who thought he would get over $5m

 

[Hale The Villain]

Fantastic signing.

Thought Zub would take us to the cleaners due to how desperate we are at RD.

 

[Cosmix]

Right behind Tkachuk and Chabot deals IMO.

"in Senator's history"? No! There are many others before this: Spezza, Karlsson, Hossa, Alfredsson, Chara, etc.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

LOL @ everyone who thought he would get over $5m

I think he was pretty kind to us here on both price and term. 5+ likely would have been available on the open market and probably could squeeze another year, maybe two. 5x$5mil is about what I thought we'd have to do if we kept him, so this is an excellent surprise.

 

[Tap on the Ankle]

LOL @ everyone who thought he would get over $5m

Gudbranson got 4x4 and Ristolainen got 5.1x5, GMs have been paying wild prices for RHD so it was a reasonable assumption given Zub is better than both of those guys.

 

[Micklebot]

people said Demelo would get 5m?

Perhaps I'm miss-remembering, but I distinctly recall people suggesting he could get 5 mil and that the only reason Wpg were able to sign him for 3 was because the pandemic completely messed up contracts that year.

I tried to do a search, but the search function keeps coming up with errors, all I was able to find was a sens fan on the mains saying he wanted to the sens to get him at 4x3yrs

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Perhaps I'm miss-remembering, but I distinctly recall people suggesting he could get 5 mil and that the only reason Wpg were able to sign him for 3 was because the pandemic completely messed up contracts that year.

I tried to do a search, but the search function keeps coming up with errors, all I was able to find was a sens fan on the mains saying he wanted to the sens to get him at 4x3yrs

5 would be high. The search is not good. Thanks

 

[cudi]

LOL @ everyone who thought he would get over $5m

easier to expect the worst and hope for the best

 

[GCK]

"in Senator's history"? No! There are many others before this: Spezza, Karlsson, Hossa, Alfredsson, Chara, etc.

Chára signed 1 2 year contract with the Sens, Hossa was traded right after signing. Karlsson, Spezza and Heatley were all important signings but the difference is the state of the franchise when they signed but none were pending UFAs.

 

[Cosmix]

Ehhh, I can’t take much of the credit.
I wouldn’t have asked if it wasn’t brought up in the pre-game.

Not exactly a scoop, but I was told it was 99% done when I asked. Like basically just waiting on paperwork, which Zub was not available to complete until after the game.

You have an insider contact so that makes you a reliable source of useful info for us.

 

[Micklebot]

Chára signed 1 2 year contract with the Sens, Hossa was traded right after signing. Karlsson, Spezza and Heatley were all important signings but the difference is the state of the franchise when they signed but none were pending UFAs.

Methot signing is probably the closest comparable. Both guys are great support players butnot franchise altering. If you don't sign them, you need to find a replacement but it's not franchise altering. The only hitch is RHD are a bit tougher to bring in, but other teams have managed.

 

[Cosmix]

Chára signed 1 2 year contract with the Sens, Hossa was traded right after signing. Karlsson, Spezza and Heatley were all important signings but the difference is the state of the franchise when they signed but none were pending UFAs.

The phrase used by the poster was "one of the most important signings in Senator's history"; not UFA nor pending UFA signings.

 

[swiftwin]

I am not sure this has ever been confusing. If I am Zub or his agent I would have done the exact same thing. If you believe in your abilities why not get to UFA as quickly as possible. I don't blame Dorion or the Sens management at all as I am sure Zub's camp made it clear buying UFA years would cost a considerable amount.

It really says alot about how great the dressing room is, and how players feel about the team's future under Dorion. Everyone seems to be signing at discounts right now!

 

[SpezDispenser]

Dorion with the home run!

 

[Xspyrit]

Thank ALFIE


I was expecting between 4.5 and 5.0 AAV so good job Dorion, paid fair market value and didn't have to overpay.

Thanks to Zub as well as he could have gotten 5+ on the UFA market. He helps us big time there

 

[swiftwin]

He's 27 years old, he's not someone you should expect big leaps forward from. He's certainly not going to be better than Chabot or Sanderson, and we've been rumoured to be wanting to add guys that could push him down the depth chart.

We're aweful without him because we have no depth on the right side, that's less about Zub and more about the alternative options

He got 4.6 for a reason, he and the team are realistic about who and what he is.

In all honesty, this is all reminiscent of people saying DeMelo would get 5 mil, Zub is better than DeMelo but the same over rating is going on here imo. There are a number of teams on which he'd be a 4th Dman on. That's not slight, the gap between 3 and 4 can be negligible, unfortunately on our team it's the grand freaking canyon

Yep. $4.6m is actually a very fair deal for both sides.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Does this feel like one of the most important signings in Senators history to anyone else?

No it doesn’t.

 

[Senovision]

Great news. Zuuub!

 

[SixthSens]

I wouldn’t have blinked if this was $1M higher/year- holy f*** am I ever happy with this number!

 

[asw]

easier to expect the worst and hope for the best

One of my friends has always been a bit of a pessimist. At one point I suggested that he join a pessimists club. He replied "Nah, they probably wouldn't take me".

 

[Masked]

Does this feel like one of the most important signings in Senators history to anyone else?

It really pales in comparison to Brady's deal which was what signified to everyone that the Senators were committed to spending money on this young core.

Assen na yo!

 

[HSF]

You know, I'm starting to wonder if Dorion really is as incompetent as some of you keep saying. What a great deal for the team and an important piece of the puzzle locked up during, what should be, our competitive cycle.

really low bar we have for our GM here

Signs players at market value

 

[robsenz]

Big win, one of the most consistent players we've ever had

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Pivotal signing. Adds clarity moving forward and sets us up really nicely to continue to improve the roster.

No question. If I am RHD, I know I am guaranteed one of Chabot or Sanderson on a team that has its core set up for the foreseeable future.

Easy destination target we become, and perhaps someone even takes a paycut to be here. Critical move achieved by Dorion here.

 

[bert]

Honestly going after him when he is injured is the best way to do it from a value perspective. Breaking your jaw is awful. Probably wanted some security after realizing how fragile a career can be.

LOL @ everyone who thought he would get over $5m

He easily gets 5+ in free agency. Acting like you are a genius here and not recognizing that the term is shorter and they got him to sign when he is vulnerable is why its such a team friendly contract.

Incredible value for the team.