Around the NHL: PTO Season Becomes Waiver Season

[Fjordy]

sigh…see above.

If they don't make the playoffs it will be very painful after last season. Players are not robots, and even more fans.

 

[Irie]

Ottawa scored 5 points less than Buffalo, this is a small difference. They also had injuries. In general, if you look at their roster, it looks good.

So far, I'm not happy with Adams in the offseason, he still hasn't solved the problem with goalie, we don't know if Clifton will work in the top 4 and we already had Quinn out due to injury. I have no confidence that we will score more points than last season and advance to the playoffs. Too many risks and if.

I am waiting for the dust to settle.

Rumors from Seravalli a couple weeks back said that NHL teams may have been notified and were expecting suspensions from the hockey Canada investigation. This signing right now feels like it might be a Batherson replacement insurance move.

Of course, nothing may happen, but if it does, it may still be a downgrade on their overall roster.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

incidentally, call me impatient but if the team misses the playoffs this year, I think it's strictly a failure. I can acknowledge different but valid opinions about last year, but at a certain point you need to start actually doing the thing

I'm with you, but I think the only thing that keeps them out of the playoffs are a slew of injuries.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

incidentally, call me impatient but if the team misses the playoffs this year, I think it's strictly a failure. I can acknowledge different but valid opinions about last year, but at a certain point you need to start actually doing the thing

Nothing in this world is strictly black and white but it will be hard to see a silver lining. Especially given how many players the Sabres were in position to acquire that they passed up on.

 

[Djp]

I am waiting for the dust to settle.

Rumors from Seravalli a couple weeks back said that NHL teams may have been notified and were expecting suspensions from the hockey Canada investigation. This signing right now feels like it might be a Batherson replacement insurance move.

Of course, nothing may happen, but if it does, it may still be a downgrade on their overall roster.

it will be interesting. Wasnt Comtois also on that team? I don’t think he got signed After not getting qualified.

Nothing in this world is strictly black and white but it will be hard to see a silver lining. Especially given how many players the Sabres were in position to acquire that they passed up on.

like who? What would they have needed to give up which then affects thrm in 25/26 and 26/27 where having that ELC/ low contract helps

 

[DapperCam]

A lot of people are saying this...gotta admit I'm a little surprised by this sentiment after basically making no significant moves in the offseason, and the roster looking unimpressive on paper. The bottom 6 is still average at best, and the whole team was one of the worst defensive teams in sabres history last year.

I'm glad people are starting to watch buffalo, and see the same promise that we do, but I feel the expectations might be getting a bit too high? We may have only been two points from a playoff spot last season, but usually you'd need more points than that to make the playoffs, and Ottawa should be a lot better this year, etc. I'm not sure how confident we should be.

Sabres score a lot of goals, which is fun to watch. High event hockey!

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

it will be interesting. Wasnt Comtois also on that team? I don’t think he got signed After not getting qualified.


like who? What would they have needed to give up which then affects thrm in 25/26 and 26/27 where having that ELC/ low contract helps

I don’t see how your question is relevant to the response

 

[HOOats]

Especially given how many players the Sabres were in position to acquire that they passed up on.

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Narat Ive, I think his name was.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Narat Ive, I think his name was.

Sounds Jewish.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

One year of a declining Tarasenko doesn't move the needle at all for me.

Ottawa needs him a lot more than we do.

 

[TehDoak]

yrsr to year you will have many variables like injuries, is the whole team hot at once or cold st once or would you like the hot streak moving around

the team is still very young. It will nice if they make the playoffs next year but it’s not the end of the world if they missed.

we have cozens, Krebs, Quinn, Peterka, power, and others thst are not near peak for a few years.

Boston had everything go right year last year while the year before they just got in. Devils had that early hot streak that built up their confidence
ottawa still has D/G question marks.
toronto— even signing Matthews still leaves thrm 3 other F where I only see 1 still being around.

Missing the playoffs won't be a huge deal if its while the team is progressing still. Say they get 95 points and still miss....probably not a huge deal.

However, if they regress, it's essentially going to invalidate Adams primary talking point on the team, That "all the progress will be from internal improvement" or some version of it. His lassiez faire approach to GMing has been, for the most part, tolerated, because the on ice product has improved. What happens when that stops happening?

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Missing the playoffs won't be a huge deal if its while the team is progressing still. Say they get 95 points and still miss....probably not a huge deal.

However, if they regress, it's essentially going to invalidate Adams primary talking point on the team, That "all the progress will be from internal improvement" or some version of it. His lassiez faire approach to GMing has been, for the most part, tolerated, because the on ice product has improved. What happens when that stops happening?

As a fanbase, we’re probably tolerant on missing the playoffs this year, if there’s a “justified” reason for that. If it’s another year like last year where the Sabres miss out by a point, we won’t be happy.

The penguins had a worse W-L record than the Sabres last year, but they were ahead in the standings. Because they had more overtime and/or shootout loses. So they got more points even though they didn’t win.

 

[jamienwalker]

Adams is building a dynasty of assets (which will hopefully translate), and signing amazing players at team friendly deals. He hasn't wasted all our greatest assets on players who couldn't stay on their teams they were traded from; plus he's hit on a lot more players than previous regimes. I'll take it.

 

[Aladyyn]

Andersen and Varlamov stayed put, Hellebuyck seems to be staying put. Our divisional rivals who needed a goaltending fix signed a terrible goalie to a 5-year deal. Don't think there's anyone else on the market that particularly interests me in goal.

On D we got a guy who fits and we think can play the #4 role and a Cup winning veteran leader.

At F we already have a logjam though I would not mind another add.

Overall I can't say I'm disappointed in the off-season so far, though I do hope a short-term #1 goalie is acquired before the season starts

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Any player that would counter the excuse of injuries… which is the obvious response to “how could they miss the playoffs and not have it be a disaster.” Do you need me to explain to you who Tyson Jost and Zemgus Girgensons are? or post the age of Kyle Okposo and Devon Levi?

 

[Diaspora]

Missing the playoffs won't be a huge deal if its while the team is progressing still. Say they get 95 points and still miss....probably not a huge deal.

However, if they regress, it's essentially going to invalidate Adams primary talking point on the team, That "all the progress will be from internal improvement" or some version of it. His lassiez faire approach to GMing has been, for the most part, tolerated, because the on ice product has improved. What happens when that stops happening?

I agree with you one hundred percent!

When the on-ice product stops improving (and, predictably, at some point it must), if you aren't a favorite to win a Cup, that's when it becomes imperative to make moves.

If you're on the upswing, it's fine to stand pat. If the upswing is over (I don't think it is) the team's play will prove it. Then it's time to take some risks.

 

[HOOats]

Any player that would counter the excuse of injuries… which is the obvious response to “how could they miss the playoffs and not have it be a disaster.” Do you need me to explain to you who Tyson Jost and Zemgus Girgensons are? or post the age of Kyle Okposo and Devon Levi?

The excuse of injuries... So are you advocating for more NHL level depth then? Because you can't just add that ad infinitum. Sure there's one spot for another forward but I'm not mad letting the Roch guys battle for it. D is full obviously.

And yeah sure explain to me who Zemgus Girgensons is (and I assume by extension why he doesn't belong on this roster).

 

[Gras]

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Seen video four minutes ago.

 

[BFLO]

Adams is building a dynasty of assets (which will hopefully translate), and signing amazing players at team friendly deals. He hasn't wasted all our greatest assets on players who couldn't stay on their teams they were traded from; plus he's hit on a lot more players than previous regimes. I'll take it.

Nearly all of the hits currently on the roster are from the previous regime…

 

[Zman5778]

Nearly all of the hits currently on the roster are from the previous regime…

"nearly all", eh? I guess it all depends on how you define a "hit".

I call Tuch, Krebs, Quinn, Peterka and Power hits....they're Adams. That's not "nearly all". Not by a longshot.

 

[Havok89]

"nearly all", eh? I guess it all depends on how you define a "hit".

I call Tuch, Krebs, Quinn, Peterka and Power hits....they're Adams. That's not "nearly all". Not by a longshot.

To be fair, he used Jack Eichel to aquire Tuch and Krebs. And Power was a first overall pick.

Love the Quinn and Peterka picks though considering I was hoping for Rossi

 

[BFLO]

"nearly all", eh? I guess it all depends on how you define a "hit".

I call Tuch, Krebs, Quinn, Peterka and Power hits....they're Adams. That's not "nearly all". Not by a longshot.

Tuch is a hit, but at the expense of Eichel. Trading out a hit by the previous regime for a hit of your own is not an increase in the number of hits over the previous regime.

Quinn, Power, Krebs, and Peterka are all potential at the moment, none of them have hit yet.

And honestly, if you're calling Krebs a hit, then how low is the bar? If Krebs is a hit in his current form, then tons of players acquired by the previous regimes were also hits.

Krebs scored 26 points in 74 games last season. Does that make someone like Chris Stewart a hit? He scored 25 points in 61 games in a much lower scoring era. Matt Moulson? 29 points in 44 games. Is E-Rod a hit? 25 points in 48 games as a 23 year old.

 

[Beerz]

"nearly all", eh? I guess it all depends on how you define a "hit".

I call Tuch, Krebs, Quinn, Peterka and Power hits....they're Adams. That's not "nearly all". Not by a longshot.

I wouldn't call Krebs a "hit"